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I am sorry you [think] the bible is a bunch
of fables,
and makes untrue stretched statements.
Well obviously that was the Readers Digest version, to make a point.There is far more to the Genesis account than that.
I get what you are saying, but fable is the wrong word. In the Bible, parables are still based on a truth. Fables are not.But fable is certainly one of the several literary traditions of the Bible.
I get what you are saying, but fable is the wrong word. In the Bible, parables are still based on a truth. Fables are not.
Nice dodge, but it's still comes down to you saying we must take Genesis literally, but we must not take Corinthians literally. 180 degrees off, says I.
Behemoth, Leviathon and giants are mentioned. If one does not accept Genesis literally, than that opens the door for doubt about the rest of the Bible.One reason I believe but have some doubt about the bible is because man found dinosaur fossils and other things that confirm the Earth is older than the bible says. So if the bible is true, why doesn't it mention Dinosaurs? If it's true, then why does it say the earth is only thousands of years old?
Your point seemed to be that the Bible is backed by science (at least creation from nothing?) and therefore not a myth. But science does not support the rest of it. So your point fails.Well obviously that was the Readers Digest version, to make a point.
Watch this video.
Hi steppinrazor,
That's not really the truth. God created the day and the night. Now, man didn't identify that time of a complete day and night as 24 hrs. for quite a bit longer, but God created the conception of a day.
Personally, I agree with jacksbratt, because I know first of all the power and majesty of God and I fully believe that His Scriptures are intended to tell us a complete history of the created universe in which we live. Would I call it a science book? No. Would I call it true in what it tells me even though it's not a science book? Yes!!
God claims, in His word, to know the end from the beginning. He is the Alpha and the Omega. He creates things that are not, to be. Out of nothing! He doesn't need some infinitesimally small 'point' of great energy to explode to be what we see all around us. He merely need speak His desire that a thing exist and it does.
His word also tells us that God is all knowing. So, here again, I agree with jacksbratt. God knew on the day that He stepped into this black inky emptiness and proclaimed, "Let there be light!", that the day would come when His created beings would question His truth. He knew it as sure as He knows anything else. So, I fully and faithfully believe that as God was leading Moses to write down His truth of how all things came to be, He specifically and purposefully had Moses to write down for each day, "and there was evening and there was morning" of that day.
He did that so that His children could discern the truth in this argument of how long one of the creation days were in the day that God created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them. Knowing full well that this day, today, would come to His children. Just as any good father prepares his children for the future, God also has prepared His children for the future.
I fully and faithfully believe that there was a real purpose for God listing off the genealogies of Adam with the specific years of each father's life until that father had a specific son. God could have just had Moses write down the genealogies just as Matthew did in the gospel account. That this father begat that son and so forth on down the line until we come to Noah and then Abraham...but He didn't. Because I believe that God is wiser than I will ever hope to imagine to be, I believe that there is very, very little contained in God's word that is not exactly how He wanted it to be said. Just as Jesus proclaimed that God gave him his words to speak, I also believe that God gave Moses the very words to write.
This idea does find some support when we look into the new studies being done in letter sequencing in the Tanakh. The thinking being that the only way we could find the equidistant letter sequencing that seems to spell out so many words describing earthly events, is that God actually gave Moses the very words to write in his account of all that God had him to declare to us about God. The effect doesn't appear to work well in any other written material as it does in the Tanakh.
My understanding is that God wrote a book and that book is perfect. It is not only perfect in its foundational truth, but it is also perfect in 'how' that truth is revealed to us.
God wrote a book. In that book He describes how He created all that is in this realm of our existence in six days. Each one consisting of an evening and a morning. That pretty much denies that the period God was calling a day, could be some long age of many days. Then His book tells us that on the sixth of those days, He created man. Then He accounts for us the number of years that passed from the day that first man was created, through to Abraham. He then even gives us an accounting of days beyond Abraham as His word also gives us the years of life that a specific line of His people lived up until Joshua carries the people of God into the land of promise.
Now, I full understand that many deny these facts to be as I believe them to be. However, I also know that throughout the history of God's dealing with mankind, there has always been this tension between those who believe God and those who claim to. Judaism began with a man by the name of Abram of Ur, and yet by the time his descendants were carried out on the wings of an eagle by God, most didn't actually believe God. When the 12 spies went to look over the land, 10 of the 12 came back with fearful reports. Not believing that God really had the power to do what He had said that He would do. For that sin, the entire nation, over 20 years old at the time, died in the wilderness.
This no different. God wrote a book and He asks us to believe Him even in the face of doubt and fear and the many other theories of man as to how we got to be where we are in this the 2020th year after our Lord and Savior visited us. I'm standing with God and I find plenty of evidence that He insinuated into His account to support that belief. There's good reason that the Scriptures don't just tell us that on the first day God created some things and thus ended that first day. For me, there's good reason that the genealogies in Genesis are not listed in the same manner that Matthew listed them.
God bless,
In Christ, ted
One reason I believe but have some doubt about the bible is because man found dinosaur fossils and other things that confirm the Earth is older than the bible says. So if the bible is true, why doesn't it mention Dinosaurs? If it's true, then why does it say the earth is only thousands of years old?
I doubt that worldwide, the majority of protestants are creationists. Maybe in the US, but probably nowhere else.No dodge, this is what the majority of protestant churches believe.
Are you being serious? That dude is a total hack job. Please don't post videos of Ken Ham if you want (intelligent) people to take you seriously
I doubt that worldwide, the majority of protestants are creationists. Maybe in the US, but probably nowhere else.
Are you being serious? That dude is a total hack job. Please don't post videos of Ken Ham if you want (intelligent) people to take you seriously
You are going to have to do better than that. You have to actually post reasons why you think Ken Ham is such a horrible source of information on this topic. I don’t care much for those who appear to be intelligent and yet they don’t know God (i.e. secular scientists). They may know unproven Historical Science but that does not mean they know the Bible correctly and Observational Science that backs it up. Here are some evidences that back up God’s Word:
Love Branch: Evidences for the Word of God
"Could" and "did" are two different critters, aren't they? Obviously He could have done anything at all, but He didn't do a whole lot of things that He could have had He so desired.
Do you also reject the talking snake?No, He didn't. That's your inference, which I happen to reject.
Well for starters he immediately is pushing his creationists museum. I really dont need to sit here and type out how silly most of his claims are..its just well understood by most people that hes a goofball ans his science is also.
Really, I thought about what I typed above and I think I may have been kinda harsh with the "intellegent" comment, but really...it kinda perplexes me to think that people watch him and believe what he says. It really says a lot about the education system in our country and..really...what we have a president in the office where people still believe everything he says. (NOT trying to be political, but it is a valid example) But if you see what Im saying, people will believe anything...
When Christ says "This is my body" and breaks the bread... Did it become His body then?Is this literally the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ?
If you say no, then you have absolutely no right to say what you've said in your post above.
-CryptoLutheran
Whoa... don't go stating that you want to "Make America Great Again".... you could get jumped and beaten.Well, you have your opinion and I have mine. Thats what makes this country great!
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