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What a gleeful show Glee is....NOT!

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What I meant by Family show as in a wholesome type of show llike Leave it to Beaver, 7th Heaven, Little House on the Praire type of show.

and seriously just because teens love it in no way shape or form makes it a Family show. Teens love MTV's The Hills, Laguna Beach, etc.
Teens loving a show does not equal wholesome.

But it is actually very smart satire comedy.


But the point is....it is geared to attract young people and done for a reason. Do you not see the push to promote promiscuity and homosexuality everywhere today? Being "smart satire" makes it even more attractive. If garbage is shown over and over to be a good thing then soon....folks think it's not so bad.

The show isn't "dorky" at all. It's well filmed, fast moving, great singing and dancing. It is a very alluring piece of fruit for the eyes...."And the serpent said unto the woman, "Ye shall not surely die:"

1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
 
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If this is what you're fishing for, I do believe that producers and writers of most TV shows have an agenda to increase public acceptance of homosexuality and sexual promiscuity.

I honestly believe that they think that it will be good for society as a whole. It's just moralism of a liberal sort.
 
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Well, my older kids do, anyway. Between the kids, the house and the wife, with a family like ours there's not much time for me to do much reading - unless I can "multi-task" for a few minutes here and there. ;)

That's why men invented bathrooms.
 
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If this is what you're fishing for, I do believe that producers and writers of most TV shows have an agenda to increase public acceptance of homosexuality and sexual promiscuity.

I honestly believe that they think that it will be good for society as a whole. It's just moralism of a liberal sort.


I didn't know I was drowning a worm here but....you helped me land a big one. You summed it up very well. :)
 
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We don't have TV.

Not because of a "gee, look! aren't we the good little Christian family" attitude, but more of a "our lives are so busy, why pay for TV when we would never really watch it, we don't really have the money for it, and you can't find anything good to watch anyway" kind of attitude.

I love not having TV.

Couldn't agree more - we have been TV free for almost 6 years:thumbsup:
 
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Couldn't agree more - we have been TV free for almost 6 years:thumbsup:

I see television, as well as computers, radio, books, etc. as fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

There isn't a great deal I watch on TV but I do like to get the news, weather and I enjoy documentaries (and American Idol ^_^). There are things, good things, one can learn. History, cooking, health and animal programs to name a few. You just have to be selective on what you allow in.

For the past several weeks I have used the recorder. I love it! I sit down first thing in the morning and run through the menu, selecting interesting programs as well as old movies to watch at night...instead of the garbage that's offered. Our new friends are John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart and the rest. No bad language. No embarassing sex scenes. Just entertainment and the best....you can speed through all the commercials. ;)

It's like the computer. It offers porn as well as Christian forums, lies as well as truth. It's to be used, I believe, as part of this great battle.....

Psalm 144:1 Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:

 
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How dare a fictional non-Christian be an open homosexual! :mad:


lol.

The character on the show is a character on a show but the actor himself, as well as his role, is homosexual. The point they're making is....it's fine to be gay. You're talented and wonderful if you are. Now...if only "non-Christians" watched the show it would be one thing. They'd wallow in their own self-destruction but it is marketed to our CHILDREN. It is brainwashing young people to accept what should not be accepted.

As far as my comment of being "overtly gay," consider why this is going on. Why they're coming "out of the closet" and it's IN YOUR FACE. There is no shame, no remorse, no wanting to change, no desire to be anything other than their pride at going against the Word of the Lord. The program "Glee" as many other shows today applauds their uniqueness.

Are there gays? Certainly...I know of two on religious forums and both have changed. Both have repented and love the Lord. Do you think you'll ever see a story like their's being shown to young people?
 
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The character on the show is a character on a show but the actor himself, as well as his role, is homosexual.

Oh no. How dare a non-Christian be homosexual! ^_^

The point they're making is....it's fine to be gay. You're talented and wonderful if you are.

Um, yeah, duh. I work with a homosexual, he's great. He's always willing to cover people's shifts, he's diligent, friendly, intelligent, great with kids. etc. etc.


Now...if only "non-Christians" watched the show it would be one thing. They'd wallow in their own self-destruction but it is marketed to our CHILDREN. It is brainwashing young people to accept what should not be accepted.

If your children are accepting what they see on television over what their parents, friends and religious group are teaching, you have a parenting problem, frankly. You are overstating the problem. Microsystem > Exosystem > Macrosystem.

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However, if you wish to cancel your cable subscription and trash your TV, and forbid your underage children to watch television ever again, to prevent them from viewing content you don't consider morally wholesome, that is your prerogative, certainly.



As far as my comment of being "overtly gay," consider why this is going on.

Because there are a large number of open homosexuals in the population?

Why they're coming "out of the closet" and it's IN YOUR FACE. There is no shame, no remorse, no wanting to change, no desire to be anything other than their pride at going against the Word of the Lord. The program "Glee" as many other shows today applauds their uniqueness.

Yeah, duh. They aren't Christian and don't believe they have to change to conform to the Word of the Lord.


Are there gays? Certainly...I know of two on religious forums and both have changed. Both have repented and love the Lord. Do you think you'll ever see a story like their's being shown to young people?

Its possible. Any time you wish to fund such a venture, feel free. But considering such a show would portray homosexuality as a mental disease to be cured, which is out of line with the American Psychological Association and other bodies that make such determinations, I wouldn't expect any major networks to back you. Networks are businesses, they kind of want to earn money first, conforming to Judeo-Christian morality is further down the list.
 
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Oh no. How dare a non-Christian be homosexual! ^_^



Um, yeah, duh. I work with a homosexual, he's great. He's always willing to cover people's shifts, he's diligent, friendly, intelligent, great with kids. etc. etc.




If your children are accepting what they see on television over what their parents, friends and religious group are teaching, you have a parenting problem, frankly. You are overstating the problem. Microsystem > Exosystem > Macrosystem.

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However, if you wish to cancel your cable subscription and trash your TV, and forbid your underage children to watch television ever again, to prevent them from viewing content you don't consider morally wholesome, that is your prerogative, certainly.





Because there are a large number of open homosexuals in the population?



Yeah, duh. They aren't Christian and don't believe they have to change to conform to the Word of the Lord.




Its possible. Any time you wish to fund such a venture, feel free. But considering such a show would portray homosexuality as a mental disease to be cured, which is out of line with the American Psychological Association and other bodies that make such determinations, I wouldn't expect any major networks to back you. Networks are businesses, they kind of want to earn money first, conforming to Judeo-Christian morality is further down the list.


And...are you fifteen years old yet? :confused: Grow up sweet pea and take a long hard look at what's going on in this world.



James 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with Me is against Me; and he that gathereth not with Me scattereth abroad.

So, DUH, Which is it?
 
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And...are you fifteen years old yet? :confused: Grow up sweet pea and take a long hard look at what's going on in this world.

My age, unlike yours, is displayed for all to see. You are hardly one to start taking issue with other posters' ages in this matter, since you can't bring yourself to display it at all. Beyond 1 Timothy 4.12, the fact that you don't show yours makes that a laughable thing to say.


James 3:11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?


So you believe Television is entirely evil. That answers my question I suppose.


Matthew 12:30 He that is not with Me is against Me; and he that gathereth not with Me scattereth abroad.

Fortunately, you aren't Jesus Christ, so you don't get to say I am against God simply by disagreeing with you.


So, DUH, Which is it?

1. I am not against God
2. A user who refuses to show their age yet criticizes others over their age = hysterically funny. Especially when you pretend I am younger then I actually am.

3. *notes you didn't actually address a single point he made*
 
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(Thread necromancy, I've been watching the show in marathon for the past three nights...)

How dare a fictional non-Christian be an open homosexual! :mad:


lol.

Actually, more because it's glee club. Anyone who has been involved in theatre, band, choir, etc. knows that there are a lot of gay guys. The show would be unrealistic if it didn't have at least one gay character. There are actually two, Kurt, the young gay kid and the creepy old glee club director, Stacey, who got kicked out for inappropriate behavior. As long as Kurt doesn't grow up to be like Stacey...

Sure, Kurt is a bit of a stereotype but it's fun. Also, gay guys in high school are either totally in the closet or flaming gay and couldn't be in the closet if they tried (like how the first couple of episodes Kurt was like "I'm not gay" but everyone knew he was lying). After all, it really does seem like the actor is really that gay rather than a straight person playing a stereotypical gay character, which happens far too often. If often takes a while before a "baby gay" (someone newly out) ditches the rainbows and gay angst for a more balanced life.

And it really does suck being gay in high school. My ex-fiancee was harassed so much after only one year of high school that she couldn't even walk down the street without people yelling things at her from passing cars, she dropped out and went to an alternative school. I also went through a lot of drama between the kids at school and my parents. The geeks, goths, punks and other kids I hung out with didn't care and eventually I met other GLB kids but it was really hard.

It's one thing to talk about homosexual acts being sinful and how we deal with that in reality. Just like we can talk about premarital sex being sinful but we also don't want to be like Quinn's dad who kicked her out of the house for getting pregnant. Islam is false and dangerous but that doesn't mean we need to accuse every Muslim of being a terrorist. How we approach topics matters just as much as what we are teaching -- they must both be in line in order for us to be effective.

So it doesn't really phase me that Rachel has two gay dads or that Kurt is "queer as a three dollar bill" (as his dad put it) or that the creator of the show is gay. Gay people exist and it's simply a fact of life and all of us have to deal with gay people in our lives, whether family members or co-workers or neighbors, television shows are the least of our problems.

Also, regarding promiscuity, there is relationship drama on the show, as in any television show and in any high school, but there is no sex. My mom watches shows like Grey's Anatomy and Private Practice where relationship drama involves sexual portrayals. I haven't seen anyone do more than kiss on the show.

But mostly, I like to see geeks on TV and people getting excited about watching them on TV (I sell a fair number of the soundtrack CDs, that's what made me curious). Maybe high school kids should watch it, they might learn to be nicer to kids who are different.
 
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I love Glee. To me, it deals with a lot of issues kids today have to deal with in a way that is more humorous and light-hearted than other shows.

- Quinn got pregnant. If you watch the whole season, you see how she struggles in dealing with teen pregnancy and the turmoil it causes. It clearly does NOT present teen pregnancy in a *positive* light. Just having a pregnant teen as a character, doesn't mean it promotes it.

- the teacher, Will Schuester, did not leave his pregnant wife. He left his wife who was PRETENDING to be pregnant, and he found out as such.

- Yes, Kurt is gay. And it shows that in a positive light. As previously stated, males who are interested in drama, music, theater, etc., are stereotyped as being gay. So of course there's gonna be a gay character in a musical show about a music club.

- I love how they've handled Tina and Artie(the goth and the guy in the wheelchair).

In all, the show seems to be about respecting people who are outsiders and considered "different" by our society. If the devil's in that, then I say "Hi, Devil! Thanks for teaching us how to love one another, I thought we only needed Jesus for that!"
 
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