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All about the Narrative.

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All about the Narrative.

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Gotta love reaching back to the 1990s to get more pictures in the frame.

We do have a white nationalist terrorism problem and their attacks are more than mass shootings. They also include the increased membership in hate groups and increased number of hate crimes.
 
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I'm pretty sure many posters would object strongly if that kind of thinking was applied to white people, as is the topic of this thread.

Not if the associations are positive.
 
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Gotta love reaching back to the 1990s to get more pictures in the frame.

We do have a white nationalist terrorism problem and their attacks are more than mass shootings. They also include the increased membership in hate groups and increased number of hate crimes.

Post the body counts of each group. Let's address the worst problem first.

People having hysterics don't count as victims.
 
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Not necessarily. After Omar Mateen shot up a nightclub, the media went all out to tell us that Islam had nothing to do with it, even though Mateen had pledged allegiance to ISIS.

White person commits a mass shooting: blame white people.

Muslim commits a mass shooting: blame white people.

It's all about the Narrative.
Maybe Omar self-identified as "white".
 
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Gotta love reaching back to the 1990s to get more pictures in the frame.

We do have a white nationalist terrorism problem and their attacks are more than mass shootings. They also include the increased membership in hate groups and increased number of hate crimes.

So what's the time limit? 2000? 2005? 2016? Yes, I see Colin Ferguson is in there, but you can put Emmanuel Sampson or Kori Ali Muhammad. Or Fredrick Demond Scott.
 
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