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Yes, Earth was baptized and after that new Earth will be created in Revelation ... but that's too Lutheran I guess. Infant baptism.
 
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Yes, Earth was baptized and after that new Earth will be created in Revelation ... but that's too Lutheran I guess. Infant baptism.

Yup, sure will. It is all a work of God though. God through the water destroyed the evil on earth and will create a New Earth where He himself can reside. Hmmm sounds a lot like the New Birth.
 
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Yup, sure will. It is all a work of God though. God through the water destroyed the evil on earth and will create a New Earth where He himself can reside. Hmmm sounds a lot like the New Birth.
It is.
That's what I am saying, infant baptism and then confirmation of faith - but it's too Lutheran ...
 
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I believe water baptism is a must for leading a powerful life of witnessing for Jesus Christ who baptizes with the Holy Spirit to the obedient.

Of course, the dying thief on the cross needed no baptism. He was saved by his faith.
 
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I believe water baptism is a must for leading a powerful life of witnessing for Jesus Christ who baptizes with the Holy Spirit to the obedient.

Of course, the dying thief on the cross needed no baptism. He was saved by his faith.

This has been hashed over many times in this thread so I'll try not to reopen that aspect. I will just say I am not sure the thief on the cross is a good example of why we shouldn't be baptized. The gospel message that results in salvation (Romans 1:16) includes the preaching of Jesus' resurrection. Jesus hadn't even been buried when he told the thief that he would be in paradise. We also know that while on earth, Jesus had authority to forgive sins (Lame man being healed). But as far as being born again? I don't see it from that example for the gospel hadn't yet been established. That didn't happen until Jesus rose from the grave (1 Cor 15:3-4; 2 Tim 2:8)
 
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Where is the question of being born again for a person who is dying? My point is that it is a must for a person to lead a holy life in order to enter the kingdom of God.

Of course, you have rightly indicated that thief on the cross cannot be quoted as an example to avoid water baptism.
 
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Bob was immersed.

yes ..sorry my humor was in need of clarification ... i mean it was about immersion ..not bob.. (as in a cork bobbing on top) ..hence -not bob ..
ok i know it was a terrible pun ..so bad in fact it got missed haha
 
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yes ..sorry my humor was in need of clarification ... i mean it was about immersion ..not bob.. (as in a cork bobbing on top) ..hence -not bob ..
ok i know it was a terrible pun ..so bad in fact it got missed haha
 
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I thought it was about full immersion..not bob
When I saw the question regarding Bob 'C' I was waiting to see who would be the first to throw in a comment about immersion!!
 
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yes ..sorry my humor was in need of clarification ... i mean it was about immersion ..not bob.. (as in a cork bobbing on top) ..hence -not bob ..
ok i know it was a terrible pun ..so bad in fact it got missed haha

lol..I totally missed it, but that was really creative! As a fisherman (we use bobbers, red and while little globes), I am suprised I did not catch the joke! Thanks frog.
 
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When I saw the question regarding Bob 'C' I was waiting to see who would be the first to throw in a comment about immersion!!

actually, I am just learning that it is immersion, not Emersion...
 
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