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Yeah, apparently I was debating when I said that Catholicism didn't understand "schism" to mean being outside the Church.

Oh well, what can you do? Let them go on misunderstanding their own group's theological positions? Ok, if you want. But why would one want that?:confused:
 
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Since I am in formation to Holy Orders I just found it strange that someone would tell me that. They are Old Catholic orders, and even the Vatican holds them as valid.
Half of them would ban Benedict XVI as a hopeless liberal heretic if he posted there anonomously. If it bothers you report them for flaming - they are not allowed to use it as safe place to flame other traditions.
 
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Since I am in formation to Holy Orders I just found it strange that someone would tell me that. They are Old Catholic orders, and even the Vatican holds them as valid.
The Vatican might, but I think OBOB is an entirely different matter, some posters make the Vatican look tame in comparison ;)

Good luck with the Holy Orders, though... sounds amazing :D
 
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There are a lot of Jerks out there. They remind my of the Phar... In the time of Jesus. Didn't he say woe to the Phar that attmpted to use laws to keep people away from the truth? By the way I went to the Celtic Catholic website very intresting. Have you read How the Irish saved civ by Cahill? It talks a lot about the early church in Ireland.

I am a Roman Catholic but I respect everyman of God, congrats to you, and do what God called you to do. We all can't be the same. I got this from the Irish Jesuit site, not exactly a hot bed of Catholic Liberalism, I thought you might enjor this.

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‘I appeal that there be no dissensions among you.’ (1 Corinthians 1:10) We live with the scandal of a divided Christendom; but we can make it better or worse. We make it worse if we focus on the differences between Christians, better if we keep our eyes on what unites us. We are all baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. In worship, belief, morality, and in the love of Jesus, we share great areas of agreement; and we are travelling in hope towards one flock and one shepherd. Jesus thinks and speaks in parables and images which he draws from the world around him. He reaches especially for symbols of life and growth. From a tiny seed grows a mighty tree. From Mary, the twelve apostles and the holy women has grown the largest body of believers on the planet, a church of every colour and culture. We are not uniform or cloned – all sorts of birds can make nests in our shade - but united in our recognition of Jesus as the revelation and Son of God.
 
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I got this from the Irish Jesuit site, not exactly a hot bed of Catholic Liberalism,
I think you'll find that in OBOB the Jesuits are regarded as a hot-bed of Catholic Liberalism.
 
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There are some over there that would excom the Pope if they could. Blogs create a sense of popular belif, that is false becuase so few people post (not enough for even a population sample) That creates a a sense of a majority.

I would imagine the folks that think Jesuits are libs are Opus dei--They don't like each other. There a lot of orders ie the Fransciscans who are a lot more liberal than the Jesuits. To be honest I went to Catholic schoos and High school and so do my kids, I have never heard the disdain for other christains expressed by some folks on OBOB anywhere in the church.
 
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There are some over there that would excom the Pope if they could. Blogs create a sense of popular belif, that is false becuase so few people post (not enough for even a population sample) That creates a a sense of a majority.

I would imagine the folks that think Jesuits are libs are Opus dei--They don't like each other. There a lot of orders ie the Fransciscans who are a lot more liberal than the Jesuits. To be honest I went to Catholic schoos and High school and so do my kids, I have never heard the disdain for other christains expressed on OBOB anywhere in the church.
Don't get me wrong - I work for the RCC - I'm not under the illusion that OBOB is typical.
 
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It's certainly not all of OBOB, in fact i'd guess it's a tiny (but very vocal) minority who are responsible for some truly vile comments. Unfortunately it makes the forum a rather unfriendly place, especially as they seem to spend an inordinate amount talking about (and usually criticising) us. The vast majority there however are wonderful and gracious people, much like most of the Roman Catholics I meet in the real world.

I dare say that we can all relate to a few select individuals casting the whole denomination in a rather unfavourable light (though I suspect that we each might come up with a very different selection of names ;) )
 
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A long time ago either on this website or another, I tried to argue in the "non-denominational" sub-forums that Catholics could be considered the original non-denomination, but they wouldn't accept me as being non-denominational and Catholic at the same time.
 
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It's certainly not all of OBOB, in fact i'd guess it's a tiny (but very vocal) minority who are responsible for some truly vile comments. Unfortunately it makes the forum a rather unfriendly place, especially as they seem to spend an inordinate amount talking about (and usually criticising) us. The vast majority there however are wonderful and gracious people, much like most of the Roman Catholics I meet in the real world.

I dare say that we can all relate to a few select individuals casting the whole denomination in a rather unfavourable light (though I suspect that we each might come up with a very different selection of names ;) )

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A long time ago either on this website or another, I tried to argue in the "non-denominational" sub-forums that Catholics could be considered the original non-denomination, but they wouldn't accept me as being non-denominational and Catholic at the same time.
"Non-denominational" always strikes me as the set of all members that are not a member of a set.
 
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"Non-denominational" always strikes me as the set of all members that are not a member of a set.

And have you ever noticed, on a certain range of topics, that you can predict with 90%+ accuracy what stance a person with "non-denominational" icon showing is going to take, and what arguments he's going to use in support of his position?
 
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