Wasn't Jesus suppose to be from davids lineage

[tonysma]

Do not get me wrong...I have just been wondering...maybe satan is whispering in my ear...Wasn't Jesus suppose to be from Davids lineage...He cannot be if he was created by God...Joseph was Davids lineage not Mary's...Don't make me feel bad about wondering this...I feel like I am talking against God and Jesus, when I am really trying to understand this....

 

[Scorcher505]

Still comes from that tribe of Israelites

 

[- DRA -]

Do not get me wrong...I have just been wondering...maybe satan is whispering in my ear...Wasn't Jesus suppose to be from Davids lineage...He cannot be if he was created by God...Joseph was Davids lineage not Mary's...Don't make me feel bad about wondering this...I feel like I am talking against God and Jesus, when I am really trying to understand this....

The gospel of Matthew opens with two thoughts:
1.) Jesus is the son of David
2.) Jesus is the son of Abraham
The point? He is the Messiah ... the annointed one -- the king of Israel promised in the O.T. that would descend from David. See 2 Samuel 7:12-17. And, Jesus was the "seed" or "blessing" promised to Abraham that would bless all families of the earth. See Genesis 12:3 and Acts 3:25-26.

My understanding is that Matthew's lineage is the legal lineage that comes through Joseph, and that Luke's lineage is the bloodline through Mary.

See also Acts 2:22-36 and Romans 1:3-4.

 

[MaidforHim]

Do not get me wrong...I have just been wondering...maybe satan is whispering in my ear...Wasn't Jesus suppose to be from Davids lineage...He cannot be if he was created by God...Joseph was Davids lineage not Mary's...Don't make me feel bad about wondering this...I feel like I am talking against God and Jesus, when I am really trying to understand this....

Editing should have read more first

Mary is also from the line of David. I saw her lineage laid out once. Yes, it was from the book of Luke.

 

[ivory]

Jesus was not in the bloodlines of King David through
Joseph as described in Mathew 1. Why because God was His
Father spiritually and literally and NOT Joseph. Joseph was
not Jesus's father. And therefore you can't trace Jesus'
bloodlines back thru Joseph's famous lineage. For although
Jesus was from the very beginning and always present with
the Father and Mother (Holy Spirit) when he took on His earthly form, it was the virgin Mary that was impregnated by the Lord himself, or as is said "the Holy Ghost covershadowed her. So Jesus' lineage is through Mary and not Josaeph. Mind you, Mary the engaged wife to be of Joseph could have been in the lineage of David, because King David of Old had many wives and many children just as his son, Solomon had. So from this side, Jesuswas surely an offspring of David.

But our Messiah was Not the Son of David as people called Him, but the Son of God as Peter realized by faith. JESUS always existed, for as He said,' before Abraham was, I am'. Jesus was the Creator and not a creation or a mere man, like King David of old.

 

[Telrunya]

Jesus was not in the bloodlines of King David through
Joseph as described in Mathew 1. Why because God was His
Father spiritually and literally and NOT Joseph. Joseph was
not Jesus's father. And therefore you can't trace Jesus'
bloodlines back thru Joseph's famous lineage. For although
Jesus was from the very beginning and always present with
the Father and Mother (Holy Spirit) when he took on His earthly form, it was the virgin Mary that was impregnated by the Lord himself, or as is said "the Holy Ghost covershadowed her. So Jesus' lineage is through Mary and not Josaeph. Mind you, Mary the engaged wife to be of Joseph could have been in the lineage of David, because King David of Old had many wives and many children just as his son, Solomon had. So from this side, Jesuswas surely an offspring of David.

But our Messiah was Not the Son of David as people called Him, but the Son of God as Peter realized by faith. JESUS always existed, for as He said,' before Abraham was, I am'. Jesus was the Creator and not a creation or a mere man, like King David of old.

The Holy Spirit is not "Mother".

Edit on 12/29/06 for scripture clairifacation purposes:

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." (emphasis mine)

 

[Nadiine]

The Holy Spirit is not "Mother".

 

[Nadiine]

I know 2 things for sure -
1) Jesus IS from David's lineage because the Bible says He is. (yes, that's my bias - but I base that on the rest of the Bible's reliability elsewhere).
I also contend that since the NT apostles affirmed that Jesus was from the davidic line that they had no problem with it as fact while with Him & no one else raised objection to it that we see in scripture.

2) Top Christian scholars have searched this out intensly and are fully satisfied of the evidence.

Other than that, here's a link to wikipedia that explains a few views:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidic_line

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/davids_seed.htm
(this has lots of detail in answer to a skeptic - I know nothing of this site other than its detailed info)

 

[prophecystudent]

I have no time to go find the resource, but I believe that under Jewish law the lineage comes through the mother. And yes, Mary was from the line of David. Therefore, the bible is correct that Christ came from the house of David.

Fred

 

[BGMCFAR]

What difference does it make were Jesus came from ? the important thing is he came to this earth and lived and died so we could be free JESUS SHED HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD SO YOU AND I COULD BE WITH HIM IN PARADISE THATS WHATS IMPORTANT AND COMMAND SATAN TO DEPART FROM YOUR PRESENTS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.Praise the Lord

 

[Nadiine]

What difference does it make were Jesus came from ? the important thing is he came to this earth and lived and died so we could be free JESUS SHED HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD SO YOU AND I COULD BE WITH HIM IN PARADISE THATS WHATS IMPORTANT AND COMMAND SATAN TO DEPART FROM YOUR PRESENTS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

Well, I know what you're saying, but it does matter where Jesus came from - only because the Bible has made it a key point of prophecy.
If the Bible didn't emphasize His davidic line as it does, it wouldn't be important.
It becomes important because it does.

& as my prev. post had noted, those who walked with Jesus WROTE of His Davidic lineage, obviously, if there was some huge discrepancy, they'de of questioned it and LEFT HIM if it proved false!

They had no problem with it - why should we?

 

[AllTalkNoAction]

Matt. 1 shews that Joseph was of the cursed lineage of Jeconiah ("Coniah"):-

[28] Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? [29] O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD. [30] Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah. (KJV)

Therefore Jesus must have been of a virgin birth.

Mary was of a different lineage of David, a lowly branch - through Nathan rather than Solomon.

God said this throne would remain until Jesus returns to lake it up when he comes to rule the earth.
This throne has not been in Jerusalem since the House of Judah were taken captive in the 7th Century BC.

It is now found, along with the gathered tribes in Britian (Heb. Berith-ain: covenant land). Queen Elizabeth II is the current monarch.
http://www.revivalfellowship.org/British_Israel.asphttp://www.revivalfellowship.org

 

[Nadiine]

Matt. 1 shews that Joseph was of the cursed lineage of Jeconiah ("Coniah"):-

[28] Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? [29] O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD. [30] Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah. (KJV)

Therefore Jesus must have been of a virgin birth.

must have been?

 

[ivory]

The Holy Spirit is Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, (GOD)
He/She is our everything. If not! Who is the Holy Spirit?

 

[calidog]

OP has a valid question. I wish we all could answer it.

 

[Wisdom's Child]

Jesus may not have been physically his, but none the less, Joseph did in fact claim Jesus as one of his own, and thus legitimized Jesus birth.
Being that Joseph and family had to travel to Bethlehem, the "City of David" for the Roman census further legitimizes his claim.

 

[Scorcher505]

Jesus was of David's line because the Bible says he was...

 

[Telrunya]

The Holy Spirit is Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, (GOD)
He/She is our everything. If not! Who is the Holy Spirit?

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." (emphasis mine)

Scripture NEVER refers to God in female terms. There is no she there at all. Every reference to God is in the nuetral or masculine sense. The Holy Spirit is most often refered too in force of nature terms such as water or wind. When you start asserting something that is definately not in scripture, such as assigning a female gender to the God head, you are flirting with disaster.

OP has a valid question. I wish we all could answer it.

I think it has ben answered. Jesus' legal liniage (Joseph) AND His human blood liniage (Mary) are both Davidic.

 

[Nadiine]

The Holy Spirit is Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, (GOD)
He/She is our everything. If not! Who is the Holy Spirit?

Where in the Bible is SHE used of the Holy Spirit?
Where in the Bible is MOTHER used of the Holy Spirit?

GOD IS SPIRIT. the Spirit is GOD.

1 Cor 12:11 "HE"
& the verse used by Telrunya below calls the Spirit, "He"... not She or Mother.

Please adhere to scripture rather than what man might wrongly teach.

 

[calidog]

I think it has ben answered. Jesus' legal liniage (Joseph) AND His human blood liniage (Mary) are both Davidic.[/quote]

I meant we (the body) all christians.