"CONSEQUENCES of Adam's sin... not the consequences of the sin itself"
no diff. but let's not stray from the thorn topic.
no diff. but let's not stray from the thorn topic.
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Originally posted by Andrew
there are many women who experience supernatural childbirth today. Easy pregnancy, no labour pains. becos the claim the promises of God -- that Christ has redeemed them from the curse of painful childbirth given out in Genesis.
2 Corinthians 12:7 -- And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
Many Christians use this verse to support their argument that God wants some of us to stay sick. They say that Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was an eye disease, migraine or some other type of sickness, and that God refused to heal him. Well, let's see how the Bible itself interprets "thorn in the flesh".
Originally posted by Andrew
Lack of faith? i believe all Christians have faith in certain areas, yet lack faith in other areas. eg one might have strong faith to go out and witness and get souls saved but have little faith to believe that God will supply all his needs, and another Christian, vice versa. does that mean one is better than the other? no.
Originally posted by humblejoe
I cannot be sure what Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was exactly. The text does not give a definitive answer, therefore I am limited to speculation, ie temptation, physical malady, etc.
Originally posted by LouisBooth
Pain can be overcome through thinking and techniques though..that is a medical fact, that doesn't prove anything though?
Originally posted by tericl2
I don't have anything substantive to add here, I just wanted to encourage you Andrew. I think you have built a very clear, concise and biblically logical case. Keep up the good work!! I particularly like your phraseology study on the "thorn of the flesh". Very insightful and well thought out!
Blessings Brother!!
Originally posted by Andrew
thanks for the positive comments, much of it came from FF Bosworth's classic book Christ the Healer