Was Jesus sinless?

[pescador]

I heard recently in a sermon that Jesus was sinless because he was conceived by the Holy Spirit and that the blood of a fetus and its mother are totally separate so Jesus never had any of Mary's sinful blood. While this may be true it discounts the fact that half of Jesus' DNA was from Mary (who had sin) and that he ingested her milk as an infant.

Was Jesus truly without sin all his life? He was fully man (and fully God) and therefore had to have experienced sin before he was baptized by John (which he said was necessary). Otherwise he was not fully man like we are but only God pretending to be man.

I want to say up front that I am born of water and the Spirit and a disciple of the Lord. Please think about your reply before you have a knee-jerk reaction, which won't further the discussion.

 

[dragongunner]

He was without sin.

Sinless Jesus


Your asumption that he was baptized because he had sin, should be seen as assumption....unless you can show scripture that he had sin and thats why.....assumption don't qualify. What DNA and drinking breast milk has to do with sin has me lost......

 

[clark thompson]

Jesus was perfect and without blame.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

 

[pescador]

1) Why was Jesus baptized? What does "so that all righteousness might be fulfilled"mean?

2) The sermon that I heard was that Jesus was sinless because he had none of Mary's (sinful) blood. If he had Mary's (sinful) DNA and consumed a product of her (sinful) body (milk) was he still without sin?

3) I can't accept the fact of Jesus being sinless in the basis of half of one verse, 2 Corinthians 5:21. Besides, what does "knew no sin" really mean? Surely he knew what sin was.

In summary, I believe that Jesus payed the price for all our sins on the cross, but we he sinless throughout his entire life?

 

[dragongunner]

He was without sin.

Sinless Jesus


Your asumption that he was baptized because he had sin, should be seen as assumption....unless you can show scripture that he had sin and thats why.....assumption don't qualify. What DNA and drinking breast milk has to do with sin has me lost......

Did you click on to my link and read it....? it sounds like you didn't because you would of found many scriptures besides just Corithians to help you understand......just because a pastor teaches something doesn't always make it so.

Now click on where it says Sinless Jesus and study what it says and look up the scriptures.

 

[revrobor]

Why the question? Jesus is God. Of course He was and is sinless. Are you a flamer?

 

[thesunisout]

I heard recently in a sermon that Jesus was sinless because he was conceived by the Holy Spirit and that the blood of a fetus and its mother are totally separate so Jesus never had any of Mary's sinful blood. While this may be true it discounts the fact that half of Jesus' DNA was from Mary (who had sin) and that he ingested her milk as an infant.

Was Jesus truly without sin all his life? He was fully man (and fully God) and therefore had to have experienced sin before he was baptized by John (which he said was necessary). Otherwise he was not fully man like we are but only God pretending to be man.

I want to say up front that I am born of water and the Spirit and a disciple of the Lord. Please think about your reply before you have a knee-jerk reaction, which won't further the discussion.

Romans 8:3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,

Jesus was sent in the likeness of sinful flesh, meaning, that He resembled it in appearance but not actuality. You are forgetting that the very first man was born without sin as well. Jesus is the last Adam:

1 Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

He, like Adam, was born without any sin. The reason that He had no sin imputed to Him is because sin is passed down through the father and not the mother. Although Eve sinned first, sin and death came through Adam and not Eve:

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Since God is His Father, He did not inherit the sin nature because God has never sinned. The teaching you heard is in error which is what led you to question whether Jesus is without sin. This is how the devil works, my friend. You must never accept a mans word without confirming it in Gods word. Be like the Bereans:

Acts 17:11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

 

[pescador]

Why the question? Jesus is God. Of course He was and is sinless. Are you a flamer?

He was also fully man and men sin.

I said at the beginning of the post that I didn't want knee-jerk reactions. Are you literate?

 

[pescador]

Romans 8:3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,

Jesus was sent in the likeness of sinful flesh, meaning, that He resembled it in appearance but not actuality. You are forgetting that the very first man was born without sin as well. Jesus is the last Adam:

1 Corinthians 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

He, like Adam, was born without any sin. The reason that He had no sin imputed to Him is because sin is passed down through the father and not the mother. Although Eve sinned first, sin and death came through Adam and not Eve:

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Since God is His Father, He did not inherit the sin nature because God has never sinned. The teaching you heard is in error which is what led you to question whether Jesus is without sin. This is how the devil works, my friend. You must never accept a mans word without confirming it in Gods word. Be like the Bereans:

Acts 17:11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

This is the answer that I was looking for. Thank you very much. I will pass it on to the person who originally posed the question (but doesn't participate in this forum).

 

[Siagoros]

I heard recently in a sermon that Jesus was sinless because he was conceived by the Holy Spirit and that the blood of a fetus and its mother are totally separate so Jesus never had any of Mary's sinful blood. While this may be true it discounts the fact that half of Jesus' DNA was from Mary (who had sin) and that he ingested her milk as an infant.

Was Jesus truly without sin all his life? He was fully man (and fully God) and therefore had to have experienced sin before he was baptized by John (which he said was necessary). Otherwise he was not fully man like we are but only God pretending to be man.

I want to say up front that I am born of water and the Spirit and a disciple of the Lord. Please think about your reply before you have a knee-jerk reaction, which won't further the discussion.

Half of Jesus' DNA wouldn't be from Mary. A man had no contribution to the birth of the messiah, so it would be 100% Mary's DNA or an outer miracle. Mary's birth of Jesus Christ is tied to Eve's protection from the serpent (Genesis 3:15, the seed of a woman).

Jesus was and is God, and God does not sin. Bear in mind God had special favor in Mary, so I think it's kind of antichrist/Satanic or in the very least sexist to emphasize Mary as a sinner (they did the same thing with Magdalene, saying she was a prostitute when if you look in the bible it doesn't say anywhere that she was, but she was a sinner).

He could have merely descended from heaven but instead He chose only her, and no man (though He Himself came as a man).

...then again He kind of had to, can you imagine if He tried otherwise? (LOL.)

I would say you need to be careful with these extra irrelevant teachings that society provides. The sole salvation factor is the acceptance of Jesus Christ as the messiah which allows the embodiment of the Holy Spirit and will not reflect many of the things you find in the Old Testament and human disciples.

Remember that if your master is the Master, you will not answer or be at the feet of another master on this Earth.
Who that be?

 

[miamited]

1) Why was Jesus baptized? What does "so that all righteousness might be fulfilled"mean?

2) The sermon that I heard was that Jesus was sinless because he had none of Mary's (sinful) blood. If he had Mary's (sinful) DNA and consumed a product of her (sinful) body (milk) was he still without sin?

3) I can't accept the fact of Jesus being sinless in the basis of half of one verse, 2 Corinthians 5:21. Besides, what does "knew no sin" really mean? Surely he knew what sin was.

In summary, I believe that Jesus payed the price for all our sins on the cross, but we he sinless throughout his entire life?

Hi pescador,

Well, as I understand the Scriptures, according to Jesus you can't have eternal life unless you are baptized. Now, many debate whether that means baptism by the Spirit or by water and because of Jesus' words and action in being baptized, I believe it is by water. Therefore, Jesus was completing the righteous command of being baptized in order to fulfill all righteousness.

Question 2: That depends on whether or not the sinful nature is given to us through blood or DNA. I am in agreement that it comes through the passing of blood from one generation to the next.

Question 3: You are free to believe what you like but the Scriptures are clear that Jesus was sinless. In order to fulfill the law of sacrifice, the sacrifice had to be perfect, unblemished, spotless and not deformed in any way. If, we accept your understanding, then the truth would be that any one of us could have satisfied God's requirement without Jesus.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[ryanmercer]

Jesus was without sin, that was His point of coming here for us, He was God on earth acting as a vessel to pay for our sins (via crucifiction) so that we could have second life through Him and be with God after this life.

Was He tempted by sin? Yes, often and there are various instances in the bible that show this but He resisted temptation so He could carry out his mission to bring us to God.

 

[rgleason]

I heard recently in a sermon that Jesus was sinless because he was conceived by the Holy Spirit and that the blood of a fetus and its mother are totally separate so Jesus never had any of Mary's sinful blood. While this may be true it discounts the fact that half of Jesus' DNA was from Mary (who had sin) and that he ingested her milk as an infant.

Was Jesus truly without sin all his life? He was fully man (and fully God) and therefore had to have experienced sin before he was baptized by John (which he said was necessary). Otherwise he was not fully man like we are but only God pretending to be man.

I want to say up front that I am born of water and the Spirit and a disciple of the Lord. Please think about your reply before you have a knee-jerk reaction, which won't further the discussion.

He had to be baptised because His mother was born in sin, He was sinless because the Bible says He was. He was 100% man (filled with the holy Spirit without measure) because He emptied Himself of His divinity (NOT diety) and came to earth for US.

 

[ravindraneee]

I think you need to spend plenty of time in New Testament! Jesus was sinless. That is the whole thing about atonement. A perfect sacrifice. Lamb without any blemish. how else our sins could forgiven..

I don't understand the relationship between DNA, breast milk and sin.

 

[Rev55]

Jesus was sinless I think the verses here make that clear. I have heard this question brought up in the context of Jesus sinning in the temple because he was angry at the money changers. The only input that I'd like to add is the baptism that John the Baptist used was not the same baptism we use today and may have satisfied the Laws requirements for the Mikveh. We always have to remember Jesus was sinless because he never broke any of the 613 laws.

 

[DreadWarrior]

I think you need to spend plenty of time in New Testament! Jesus was sinless. That is the whole thing about atonement. A perfect sacrifice. Lamb without any blemish. how else our sins could forgiven..

I don't understand the relationship between DNA, breast milk and sin.

I would like to echo this entire post. The New Testament is quite clear that Jesus was without sin. The whole thing with DNA, and breast milk is also a little odd, and I think you're confusing what exactly sin is. We are born with a sin nature, but it's not to say the blood is sin...or the milk is sin.