I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. :/
One thing to notice is that Jesus could not sin even if he did what we call sin. He is God and God cannot sin.I realize that I'm going to have a lot of people angry with me over this one but I don't think He was and let me explain. To me there is a major difference of being perfect and being sinless. It's true that Jesus never disobeyed His parents, but did He always know right from wrong and what His parents expected of Him? I don't think He always knew better and had to be taught right from wrong just like any other child so that He could always do what was right.
Also I don't think that He was perfect in the sense where He never ever made a spelling mistake or forgot where He left one of His carpentry tools as those are classified as sinless mistakes. So in conclusion I believe that Jesus was born entirely sinless,.. but in order to fully know what it's like to be human you also have to fully understand what it's like to be imperfect.
Sin = breaking a law. There is no other god whose law God can break. So Jesus (God) cannot sin. Never could.He will never do what we call sin. Did he sinned in the gospel? Of course he can sin. Didn't the devil not tried to get his soul?
One thing to notice is that Jesus could not sin even if he did what we call sin. He is God and God cannot sin.
Sin = breaking a law. There is no other god whose law God can break. So Jesus (God) cannot sin. Never could.
He is perfect and fulfilled the law perfectly. Something nobody except he could do. He came to die on the cross offering a perfect sacrifice. Did he sin the many times he ordered the slaughter of men, women, and children under the Old Covenant?He come to earth to lead perfect sinless life without breaking God's law. Of course he can break his own law. He is not exception. The law is for all visible and invisible forever. The law is the way the universe and afterlife is run. The devil offer him the whole earth if he sin.
He is perfect and fulfilled the law perfectly. Something nobody except he could do. He came to die on the cross offering a perfect sacrifice. Did he sin the many times he ordered the slaughter of men, women, and children under the Old Covenant?
But murder and stealing land is sin for us.God is king, he have right to order killing.
True, but what he did would be sin if we commanded someone else.Not if God command us.
I realize that I'm going to have a lot of people angry with me over this one but I don't think He was and let me explain. To me there is a major difference of being perfect and being sinless. It's true that Jesus never disobeyed His parents, but did He always know right from wrong and what His parents expected of Him? I don't think He always knew better and had to be taught right from wrong just like any other child so that He could always do what was right.
Also I don't think that He was perfect in the sense where He never ever made a spelling mistake or forgot where He left one of His carpentry tools as those are classified as sinless mistakes. So in conclusion I believe that Jesus was born entirely sinless,.. but in order to fully know what it's like to be human you also have to fully understand what it's like to be imperfect.
I don't agree that humans are imperfect and that Jesus wasn't perfect.
Jesus said: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Does this mean that you must be perfect in this life? Yes!
But murder and stealing land is sin for us.
I didn't understand your response too much but I do believe that Jesus being perfect just meant that He was perfectly righteous and holy,.. not perfect in the sense where He didn't make any goofs.
If He wasn't.. then He would only be able to pay for His own sins.I realize that I'm going to have a lot of people angry with me over this one but I don't think He was and let me explain. To me there is a major difference of being perfect and being sinless. It's true that Jesus never disobeyed His parents, but did He always know right from wrong and what His parents expected of Him? I don't think He always knew better and had to be taught right from wrong just like any other child so that He could always do what was right.
Also I don't think that He was perfect in the sense where He never ever made a spelling mistake or forgot where He left one of His carpentry tools as those are classified as sinless mistakes. So in conclusion I believe that Jesus was born entirely sinless,.. but in order to fully know what it's like to be human you also have to fully understand what it's like to be imperfect.
Also I don't think that He was perfect in the sense where He never ever made a spelling mistake or forgot where He left one of His carpentry tools as those are classified as sinless mistakes.
Actually, it is quite clear. Christ was without blemish...or.. "perfect".. and ... justifiable for the sacrifices of sin... He was perfect:As I understand it, the term "perfect" means mature, and has nothing to do with human error such as tripping, spelling/recalling, and such.
Just a thought here...As far as Christ obeying his parents, he likely did, but we also need to recognize the fact he had good parents to obey. Point being for those who do not have good parents, they just can't set one of the bars of perfection at obeying parents.
No matter what Christ did, I think he far exceeded the bar God had set for perfection/maturity, or he simply ended up with a full understanding of exactly what God wants/expects of us and lived that understanding.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth was fully divine and fully human. He took human form to be among us. With that human form comes all of its characteristics. Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the Son of God and with that comes all of Gods Characteristics. If we dare judge , then the burden is upon the individual to bare witness against His perfection keeping in mind that He was the only perfect sacrifice for the salvation of humanity. Be blessed.I realize that I'm going to have a lot of people angry with me over this one but I don't think He was and let me explain. To me there is a major difference of being perfect and being sinless. It's true that Jesus never disobeyed His parents, but did He always know right from wrong and what His parents expected of Him? I don't think He always knew better and had to be taught right from wrong just like any other child so that He could always do what was right.
Also I don't think that He was perfect in the sense where He never ever made a spelling mistake or forgot where He left one of His carpentry tools as those are classified as sinless mistakes. So in conclusion I believe that Jesus was born entirely sinless,.. but in order to fully know what it's like to be human you also have to fully understand what it's like to be imperfect.
I realize that I'm going to have a lot of people angry with me over this one but I don't think He was and let me explain. To me there is a major difference of being perfect and being sinless. It's true that Jesus never disobeyed His parents, but did He always know right from wrong and what His parents expected of Him? I don't think He always knew better and had to be taught right from wrong just like any other child so that He could always do what was right.
Also I don't think that He was perfect in the sense where He never ever made a spelling mistake or forgot where He left one of His carpentry tools as those are classified as sinless mistakes. So in conclusion I believe that Jesus was born entirely sinless,.. but in order to fully know what it's like to be human you also have to fully understand what it's like to be imperfect.
Where did you get that idea that you have to know that you are sinning for it to be a sin.
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