Was Hilter a Christian or not?

[Nahienga]

If this is true, you should be able to find mainstream history sources to support you assertion! Please provide sources.

You don't have to believe me if you don't want to.
Maybe Hitler was suffering from schizophrenia. One christian and one non-christian personality.
Just a random speculisation...

Were in the bible does it say that perfect christians are white?

I don't know. I'm not Hitler.

And what does the bible command wrt genocide. Quote the book, chapter and verse for each commandment please.

Again, I'm not Hitler, I can't think like him. Luckily.
But there are alot of killings in the bible, really...

What is the wrong skin colour? Where does the bible ask any human being to create such a nation? please quote it (the bible that is).

I don't think anything is wrong with different skin colours. I myself wish that I had darkgreen skin.
I think Hitler took "The Kingdom of God" a little too serious.

Where do you remember reading this?

I once saw a documentary on a discovery channel, and the film Der/Das Undergang (excuse my bad german), and my friend who has been in Auschwitz.

What does Hitler and this president have in common?

"This is a one nation under god!"

 

[Nahienga]

If this is true, you should be able to find mainstream history sources to support you assertion! Please provide sources.

You don't have to believe me if you don't want to.
Maybe Hitler was suffering from schizophrenia. One christian and one non-christian personality.
Just a random speculisation...

Were in the bible does it say that perfect christians are white?

I don't know. I'm not Hitler.

And what does the bible command wrt genocide. Quote the book, chapter and verse for each commandment please.

Again, I'm not Hitler, I can't think like him. Luckily.

What is the wrong skin colour? Where does the bible ask any human being to create such a nation? please quote it (the bible that is).

I don't think anything is wrong with different skin colours. I myself wish that I had darkgreen skin.
I think Hitler took "The Kingdom of God" a little too serious.

Where do you remember reading this?

I once saw a documentary on a discovery channel, and the film Der/Das Undergang (excuse my bad german), and my friend who has been in Auschwitz.
That's the three I remember recently, but I know I've heard that and much more from other sources.

What does Hitler and this president have in common?

"This is a one nation under god!"

 

[Nahienga]

hmm... why did it post twice?

 

[elijah115]

I asked for the basis of your claims. Do you mean to tell me everything you said about Hitler is pure speculation?

 

[Nahienga]

I asked for the basis of your claims. Do you mean to tell me everything you said about Hitler is pure speculation?

No, it isn't pure speculations. But I'm afraid I got too many sources to list everything.
I know that some information I got about hitler this local christian church provided me with.
That church is what I call a real christian church. They are really proud and strong in their faith. They've realized that there are bad people in their faith, like Hitler, and now they've been doing their best to tell the local christians and whoever who holds the interest to hear about it that Hitler was so wrong in the christian faith, and how to not become like him.
The world needs more brave and strong churches like that.
Anyways, enough rambling for me now.

 

[JGL53]

I asked for the basis of your claims. Do you mean to tell me everything you said about Hitler is pure speculation?

You could google "Hitler, christian" and educate yourself, if you are that interested. Also, you might want to peruse "Mein Kampf" - as I said, if you are that interested.

As for christians being racist - some are and some aren't. Many white christians in the south are racists - my parents, for example - not to mention the majority of white christians that I have ever met in my life. I have lived in Mississippi for the past 56 years, but I am quite sure I am not the only one who could testify (heehee) to this fact.

Also, are you not familiar with the KKK and its history - or the Christian Identity movement? Why don't you google them and learn.

Also, as far as god commanding genocide, or the individual slaughter of innocents by his true believers, or performing genocide himself, the bible is full of such. You are unaware? Then get a bible and read it. Start with Numbers, Chapter 31. Or you could google "bible, atrocities".

 

[Skillganon]

Guy's forget it, Hitler was a christian by faith only not good work.

Only his good work will be the 6 000000 Jew's he killed, in revenge for killing Jesus, only if you consider it good work.

You know the funny part? they killed him not!

 

[Fares]

This muslims have one hell of a tactic .
How do they ignore history so easly .
Its amazing .
Hitler social dream world was built on race , not religion .
Who was your history teacher ? A sheikh from Al-Azhar ?
Or from a guy in KKK clan ? Please stop saying none-sense .
This is not about opinions its about history .

 

[Nahienga]

This muslims have one hell of a tactic .
How do they ignore history so easly .
Its amazing .
Hitler social dream world was built on race , not religion .
Who was your history teacher ? A sheikh from Al-Azhar ?
Or from a guy in KKK clan ? Please stop saying none-sense .
This is not about opinions its about history .

I'm afraid we can no longer be 100% sure if he was or wasn't christian. We can only have speculations and guessings, and then decide which speculation we find most accurate.
Until someone is able to revive Hitler and ask.

 

[Skillganon]

LOL. Guy's, Honestly You should check all my post in this thread.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I'm afraid we can no longer be 100% sure if he was or wasn't christian. We can only have speculations and guessings, and then decide which speculation we find most accurate.
Until someone is able to revive Hitler and ask.

Perhaps he is the one being revived here Only kidding folks, but it could be a "Type" of him perhaps.

Reve 13:2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like [the feet of] a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And [I saw] one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. [SIZE=+2]
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[Nahienga]

Perhaps he is the one being revived here Only kidding folks, but it could be a "Type" of him perhaps.

It's alive! IT'S ALIVE!

 

[elijah115]

No, it isn't pure speculations. But I'm afraid I got too many sources to list everything.
I know that some information I got about hitler this local christian church provided me with.
That church is what I call a real christian church. They are really proud and strong in their faith. They've realized that there are bad people in their faith, like Hitler, and now they've been doing their best to tell the local christians and whoever who holds the interest to hear about it that Hitler was so wrong in the christian faith, and how to not become like him.
The world needs more brave and strong churches like that.
Anyways, enough rambling for me now.

Is it possible you were raised near a racist area, and you've just come into contact with mainstream christianity through this "real church" you mentioned? Real christians are recognised by their loving behaviour, not only their profession. There is no real christian on planet Earth that thinks Hitler was a christian.

There is no sane and honest non-christian on planet Earth that thinks Hitler was a christian. There is a saying in christianity that whoever doesn't love his neighbour (enemies included) and claims to follow the will of God isn't a christian (1 John 4:20). Hitler was such a person - a non-christian.

So Nahienga, can you understand why most of us are surprised that you consider Hitler a christian? It seems you don't know what the bible says, what Jesus and his apostles taught, or what history records.

When I ask you to give sources, I presume to have the wisdom to choose a few good sources - like one or two respectable sources for each of your claims. I don't think it's too much to ask if you're making unaccepted claims. We don't need to revive Hitler to know he wasn't a christian -the fact that he killed 6 million jews because of their ethnicity tells us He was not at all a christian.

 

[srev2004]

Is it possible you were raised near a racist area, and you've just come into contact with mainstream christianity through this "real church" you mentioned? Real christians are recognised by their loving behaviour, not only their profession. There is no real christian on planet Earth that thinks Hitler was a christian.

There is no sane and honest non-christian on planet Earth that thinks Hitler was a christian. There is a saying in christianity that whoever doesn't love his neighbour (enemies included) and claims to follow the will of God isn't a christian (1 John 4:20). Hitler was such a person - a non-christian.

So Nahienga, can you understand why most of us are surprised that you consider Hitler a christian? It seems you don't know what the bible says, what Jesus and his apostles taught, or what history records.

When I ask you to give sources, I presume to have the wisdom to choose a few good sources - like one or two respectable sources for each of your claims. I don't think it's too much to ask if you're making unaccepted claims. We don't need to revive Hitler to know he wasn't a christian -the fact that he killed 6 million jews because of their ethnicity tells us He was not at all a christian.

Wasn't half the Christian population involved in the Crusades? Wasn't George Washington a Christian, and he had slaves? What about all the people that lived in the South who had slave plantations, were they not Christians as well? WHat about the soldiers in Iraq? What about the USA population when they justified the atomic bombs? What about the infinite other circumstances that would make Christians not peace loving? If that's yes, then the population of Christians has severely shrunk.

I thought the definition of Christian was Follower of Christ, not whether they were good or not since we are already born with sin. If that's not the case, peace loving Gandhi would be a better Christian than 99% of the Christians according to your definition.

 

[Skillganon]

Wasn't half the Christian population involved in the Crusades? Wasn't George Washington a Christian, and he had slaves? What about all the people that lived in the South who had slave plantations, were they not Christians as well? If that's yes, then the population of Christians has severely shrunk.

I thought the definition of Christian was Follower of Christ, not whether they were good or not. If that's the case, peace loving Gandhi would be a better Christian than 99% of the Christians according to your definition.

Good point!

 

[elijah115]

You could google "Hitler, christian" and educate yourself, if you are that interested. Also, you might want to peruse "Mein Kampf" - as I said, if you are that interested.

As for christians being racist - some are and some aren't. Many white christians in the south are racists - my parents, for example - not to mention the majority of white christians that I have ever met in my life. I have lived in Mississippi for the past 56 years, but I am quite sure I am not the only one who could testify (heehee) to this fact.

Also, are you not familiar with the KKK and its history - or the Christian Identity movement? Why don't you google them and learn.

Also, as far as god commanding genocide, or the individual slaughter of innocents by his true believers, or performing genocide himself, the bible is full of such. You are unaware? Then get a bible and read it. Start with Numbers, Chapter 31. Or you could google "bible, atrocities".

I think one would have to live under a rock not to know about christian identity or the KKK. But I think any globally aware human being knows the difference between christianity and white supremacy.

As regards genocide, which is motivated by racism, Number 31 certainly doesn't contain genocide. The reason given for the destruction of a few nations in the Old Testament was idolatry. And the God of Israel wasn't partial. He punished Israel with the same severity with which He punished the nations they drove out.

Lastly, I find it surprising how many Americans arrogantly have this idea that American christianity is the epitomy of True christianity. It defies objective wisdom.

 

[srev2004]

I think one would have to live under a rock not to know about christian identity or the KKK. But I think any globally aware human being knows the difference between christianity and white supremacy.

As regards genocide, which is motivated by racism, Number 31 certainly doesn't contain genocide. The reason given for the destruction of a few nations in the Old Testament was idolatry. And the God of Israel wasn't partial. He punished Israel with the same severity with which He punished the nations they drove out.

Lastly, I find it surprising how many Americans arrogantly have this idea that American christianity is the epitomy of True christianity. It defies objective wisdom.

This is what I call white washing Christian history by seperating Christianity and it's intolerance because it is profitable to do so in this day and age.

The church supported beheading native americans because they were heathens. It is still racism for killing people according to a certain categeory such as Idolatory. What gives Christians the right to kill people regardless of their beliefs? This in my opinion is pure fear and hatred for anything non Christian and hence Christianity is severely racist. It doesn't even come close to the tolerance of Eastern Religions. Especially when it comes to non violence.

When the Church teaches non violence, it's to fellow Christians only, and not to the heathens and idolators right. Because based on secular history I can justify how intolerant Christianity is.

 

[elijah115]

Wasn't half the Christian population involved in the Crusades? Wasn't George Washington a Christian, and he had slaves? What about all the people that lived in the South who had slave plantations, were they not Christians as well? WHat about the soldiers in Iraq? What about the USA population when they justified the atomic bombs? What about the infinite other circumstances that would make Christians not peace loving? If that's yes, then the population of Christians has severely shrunk.

I thought the definition of Christian was Follower of Christ, not whether they were good or not since we are already born with sin. If that's not the case, peace loving Gandhi would be a better Christian than 99% of the Christians according to your definition.

But srev, how can you be a follower of Christ and not be good? You don't seem to understand what being a follower of Christ entails. Did Christ murder black people? Did Christ have slaves? Did Christ have plantations? Did Christ drop the atomic bomb? Being a christian doesn't mean you love peace, it means you love God and want to be like him - slow to anger, abounding in love, merciful, kind, gentle, long-suffering etc. May I ask you what the term follower of Christ means, according to you.

 

[Skillganon]

As regards genocide, which is motivated by racism, Number 31 certainly doesn't contain genocide. The reason given for the destruction of a few nations in the Old Testament was idolatry. And the God of Israel wasn't partial. He punished Israel with the same severity with which He punished the nations they drove out.
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So you saying Hitler killed 6000000 Jew's because he thougt's they was worshipping idolatery, or angered God or something!

 

[srev2004]

But srev, how can you be a follower of Christ and not be good? You don't seem to understand what being a follower of Christ entails. Did Christ murder black people? Did Christ have slaves? Did Christ have plantations? Did Christ drop the atomic bomb? Being a christian doesn't mean you love peace, it means you love God and want to be like him - slow to anger, abounding in love, merciful, kind, gentle, long-suffering etc. May I ask you what the term follower of Christ means, according to you.

The term follower of Christ is accept Jesus as the only instance where there was the Son of God on this Earth. To deny any other religion and to punish and segregate idolaters from the Christian population. And anyone who thinks otherwise is less spiritually advanced and inferior to you, because you believe in Christ and have the bible as reference.