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Warden, you need to realize you're fighting his interpretive framework. AV didn't create his own interpretive framework, and since it's socially created, you're actually bashing your intellectual fists against an impenetrable wall.
Give your knuckles a rest, bro.
Why?
Oh sure they obviously have their beliefs, just as we all do. The difference I see though is how AV seems to think every scientist in the world should do all their work in line with his beliefs. I don't know very many people with that level of hubris.
Again, just who do you think you are? You really believe scientists the world over should do their work in accordance with your beliefs? Not mine, not anyone else's but yours?
See my Roundup™ example.
I don't do it for myself, I do it for others. Some arguments must be made and some claims must be shown to be argued against.
But it's weird to see someone expecting others to follow his interpretation of scripture while also seemingly ignoring Christ's teachings about being humble.Right. Because when you're in a denomination that is insular in its operative identity and interpretive method, this is the expressed outcome that you, me and others encounter. Again, I just roll with it.
You're free to do what you want, but you'll never pierce his interpretive wall. And you know why, don't you?
Cheap shot? How?That's a cheap shot that doesn't work with me, chief.
But it's weird to see someone expecting others to follow his interpretation of scripture while also seemingly ignoring Christ's teachings about being humble.
You darn well know I am. Again; Proverbs 12:22 in response to you only using the subtitle to refer to it to mislead people.
Oh sure they obviously have their beliefs, just as we all do. The difference I see though is how AV seems to think every scientist in the world should do all their work in line with his beliefs. I don't know very many people with that level of hubris.
So you can reduce a 21-word title to one word, but I can't reduce it to ten!?
Then who's beliefs should they do all their work in line with?
(Please be specific.)
There's a difference between genuine ignorance and willful ignorance, which you demonstrate oh so ably.
I don't do it for myself, I do it for others. Some arguments must be made and some claims must be shown to be argued against.
I understand their beliefs, their interpretations of scripture, and all that. What I don't understand is how they seem to blow off God telling us to be humble. So sure, they have their own unique beliefs about creation, but where does the hubris come from that tells them to not just have their beliefs but expect that the world's scientists should work under them?Again, River, this is the outcome.
Let me take this another direction: Have you studied the history of the development and social presence of the many varied Christian denominations that exist today? If you have, then you'd better understand why AV tends to remain with the view that he does being that it's socially conditioned. He knows who he's come to trust.
No one's!! Doing science according to anyone's religious beliefs would be biased, which is exactly what scientists try to avoid and minimize.Then who's beliefs should they do all their work in line with?
(Please be specific.)
Right. Because when we face a person from a denomination that is insular in its operative identity and interpretive method, this is the expressed outcome that you, me and others encounter. Again, I just roll with it.
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