war? (cont.)

[silent_angel]

with all the information i've been getting form everyone...i'm able to put together a paper for my church family. with the war still raging on...amny people have decised to enter some sort of milarty work. as for me...that's the air force...or so i hope. but not everyone wants to do. some wants to spread God's word and spread peace. but what about everyone still under age. what do you want to do, in consideration with war?

 

[Dyrwen]

To College my antiAmerican self shall go.

 

[Lotar]

A couple of times I thought about the military, but were's the money in it?
The only reason I'd join the military was if I was going to be an officer, and I was needed.
Right now I'll stick to civil engineering, it pays better, and I don't get shot at.

 

[Woodsy]

Well, I'm a veteran; does that count?

 

[silent_angel]

your vote always counts

 

[the_malevolent_milk_man]

"A couple of times I thought about the military, but were's the money in it?"

I go to school with a guy who was in the army, he's in his upper 30's. Not only does the army pay for all his tuition, housing, and equipment but he also gets living money just for going to school.

He says that if he rejoins the army with a degree he can be an officer and when he retires he would be getting something like 1000$ a month just for walking to the mail box.


He always makes the army sound like a bunch of fools though, says the only reason he joined and would rejoin is for all the benefits.

 

[alonesoldier]

Im in the Army right now on my way to the University of Texas in Austin in 3 months. The Army is paying for all my tuition and lab fees. Im only 23 and have been able to save around 20 grand because Im deployed all the time never spending money. Im gonna be a lawyer when I grow up. I didn't like being shot at either, but hey, Im no better than anyone else and someones got to do it.

ps. your friends right, alot of the work is mind numbing and morons run the show if you ask me.

 

[Woodsy]

ps. your friends right, alot of the work is mind numbing and morons run the show if you ask me.

I remember thinking that before I got out of the Army. And I thought that the civilian world would be better. Live and learn.

 

[alonesoldier]

Yeah I keep hearing that to, people get out because they think everyones an idiot, and then they go to work for corperate america and come banging the armies door down a year or two later. That won't happen to me because I've got a lot of school left and by the time Im done I should be use to stupid civilians.

 

[erichmess_]

Join the Air Force and let them pay for college, then work for them for 9 years (try to be an officer) and then go out into the commercial world with some good skills.

 

[Lotar]

The military will give you money, and pay for your schooling, but if you go into a well paying profesion, it pays a lot more to go straight into college.
I haven't even graduated yet and I make over $20k a year working part-time. When I graduate I'll go up to $50k and then quickly up from there.
I wouldn't get payed any more for any experiance I could get from the military. I go to a state college, so tuition isn't a huge deal. Economically speaking, for me it just wouldn't pay to go into the military. Otherwise I might have. I still would if there was a need.

 

[alonesoldier]

I agree with ya Lotar. The only edge I could see in your own self interest might be in a job interview, if you were matched against someone equally qualified but they had a military back ground, particularly in Government jobs.

 

[Hound]

Well Soldier, having spent 8 years in service I can definetly say that I don't want to serve with someone who doesn't want to be there. Often times I get stuck with some 18-year-old nitwit who joined because his father made him or he needed the money for college. Joining the military, especially the infantry, is a serious choice. I want a dedicated warrior, not someone preoccupied with how much more they could be making in the civilian sector.

 

[LaserCool]

Well, I went to college straight out of high school, and stayed in for almost 4 years.

Then I ran out of money, and went out into the real world. Worked my butt off. Never went into the millitary, I'd have made a bad soldier.

I saved enough money to go back to college full time when I was 27. I've been hiding out in these halls since then. Even got a job in a lab here.

Trust me, if you can make a career out of it, college is a great place to stay . The view from the ivory tower can't be beat.

I've got two brothers-in-law in the Army. One an officer, the other a sergant. I've seen how millitary bases operate, how the millitary midnset is. If you like being on a high school football team, or some kind of club, then you should join the millitary.

If you don't go for that kind of thing, get a good college education.

 

[alonesoldier]

I'm a Sergeant in the Army Hound and I agree with you, however, now that my time is coming to a close I am starting to look foward to all those benefits I am about to reap.
-Nick

 

[Lotar]

I agree with ya Lotar. The only edge I could see in your own self interest might be in a job interview, if you were matched against someone equally qualified but they had a military back ground, particularly in Government jobs.

It's kinda sad how we pay our military near poverty wages for doing things that would make them good money in the civilian world. The truth is, why should I go into the military and make $1200 a month when I can make at least 4 times that, doing the same thing in the civilian work place? It really is sad how we talk about "we support our troops", yet we are unwilling to pay them a decient salary.
It would be nice if companies actually cared if you had military experiance, but the truth is that most don't. I work with a guy who was in the navy for around 10 years (I can't remember exactly), and he's making about the same as what I will when I graduate. He has a lot of experiance, but none of it really applies to the civilian world.

 

[Hound]

You don't join the military for the pay. The majority of us would do this regardless of how much the government offered. Much like school teachers, we have a desire to make the world a better place through our abilities. The government realizes that we will do the job no matter the pay and so they cut the pay short.

 

[Lotar]

You don't join the military for the pay. The majority of us would do this regardless of how much the government offered. Much like school teachers, we have a desire to make the world a better place through our abilities. The government realizes that we will do the job no matter the pay and so they cut the pay short.

That still doesn't make it right.

The military is somewhat suffering from this though. Many people do join for pay, and that means the tend to scrape the bottom of the barrel. Especially when it comes to technical jobs, where they can make a much larger amount of money in the civilian world. There are people who would want to join, but the pay draws them away.
Its the same thing with teaching, I would love to be a teacher, but when it comes down to money it just isn't worth that much to me. Everyone I knew in school who decided to go into teaching did so after having a hard time in their origonal field.
I have the upmost respect men like you, and I wish I felt that strong of a desire.
I could never go up to my family, or boss (who also is my uncle) and tell him that I'll turn down the $50k join the military and make a quarter of that. Especially after employing, and training me through most of my years in college. If there was a need though, I would join in a second.

 

[alonesoldier]

Most famililes in the military are on food stamps I agree, but for young single guys it's good pay. And I don't know.... Being a war vet is what got me into a very good University recently, I can't imagine that my grades had anything to do with it. In my case at least, I want to go to law school and be a public servant. War experience is good for politicians.


"For a lot of young people, the military is the only option," Strauss said. "Like Frank Deroia, this burnout who used to sit at the back of the school bus and loudly make fun of my clothes every day. Well, he joined the Army, and now I guess he's being treated like some kind of hero because he was one of the troops who secured Baghdad International Airport. Meanwhile, I've got a bachelor's degree and I'm stuck in Kirksville working at Blockbuster. How is that fair?"

haha

 

[alonesoldier]

Bush Satire on Poor Soldiers


I love my President and I usually wouldn't post something like this, but it is very funny, very funny if anyone wants to read it.