Wanting to leave

[whitebeaches]

i miss alot of the ppl who use to come here to.
hugs

 

[DYOLF]

If you leave the place will become corrupt,you are the salt of the earth

For the first time in all my years at CF, I find I don't want to be here anymore. I am continually seeing posts by someone who is causing a problem here. It's everywhere, and I'm tired of it. You probably won't here much from me anymore. It's a shame because I was looking to spend more time in the fellowship thread now that I'm not as busy, as were others. We had been talking about it. Maybe we can find another site where there are no pests. The web is a big place.

 

[CindyisHis]

agreed, i used to be on staff, but i turned in my badge for other, more productive work.

sometimes if the baaing is wrong, it helps to use a tuning fork to demonstrate the correct response. or in this case, it would be a response from the gospel as well as encouraging the sheep to adjust to and match their baa's to what the word of God says.

it is all to easy to get off on the wrong key when the sound of the correct one is not in one's ears continually. First correct the hearing, and then the resulting sound of the baas comming from their mouth will respond accordingly.

That's good.

 

[CindyisHis]

Let us not be easily offended, but IF we do get offended, let us tell each other & try & work it out, & if that does not work use your block feature, & you dont have to see or hear from that poster. Let us all try & remember this is a Virtual World, & we are all volunteers & we may leave any forum we no longer care to particpate in.

I personally have found that if I just leave the thread-the "flamer or Troll" w/usually leave me alone. A few days of ignore does so much for some people.

I understand and practice that concept. What I see here is broader than that. I suppose if you read the whole thread you may gain an understanding as to what I am experiencing.

I've never had to use the block feature because I have not engaged in any arguments or had someone continually plague me personally with bashing comments. And I'm not now.

 

[CindyisHis]

If you leave the place will become corrupt,you are the salt of the earth

Amen! That thought has held me here at various times.

 

[greatlyloved]

Does anyone know of any forums online that are for WOF people? I've looked at some other Christian forums and this is the only one I could find that had a separate place for WOF. I'd like to find other places as well, but have not had much success. Although, to be fair, I've been pretty busy and haven't looked around much lately.

Cindy, I think I know the party you are referring to as I may have recently had a subtly judgmental post from him myself. I tried to be nice, but I did let the individual know that it wasn't appreciated. If this is the person, I see he has received some messages from others in his personal messages saying he does not appear to be WOF and to follow the rules.

I'm sorry to hear you want to leave because you and Shepherd were the first two who tried to be welcoming and friendly to me when I joined. Actually, you two are the only ones I actually remember being friendly. But then again, to be fair, I haven't been on a lot and probably would have encountered more friendly people had I frequented the boards more.

Anyway, if anyone knows of a WOF board where we can go, please let me know.

Thanks.

 

[CindyisHis]

You'll probably hearing from someone because there are more than one other.

I wanted to say something here so CF wouldn't lose people. I want to see CF prosper, and I want the voice of the Lord to be proclaimed here through all believers who are yielded to Him no matter what icon they show.

I have missed you! I hope you will hang around. It is people like you who make coming here sweet. Your fellowship is valued. So if you hang out here with me we'll be happy and stay? And you can still visit another forum if the Lord leads.

 

[ABlessedAnomaly]

Does anyone know of any forums online that are for WOF people? I've looked at some other Christian forums and this is the only one I could find that had a separate place for WOF. I'd like to find other places as well, but have not had much success. Although, to be fair, I've been pretty busy and haven't looked around much lately.

Cindy, I think I know the party you are referring to as I may have recently had a subtly judgmental post from him myself. I tried to be nice, but I did let the individual know that it wasn't appreciated. If this is the person, I see he has received some messages from others in his personal messages saying he does not appear to be WOF and to follow the rules.

I'm sorry to hear you want to leave because you and Shepherd were the first two who tried to be welcoming and friendly to me when I joined. Actually, you two are the only ones I actually remember being friendly. But then again, to be fair, I haven't been on a lot and probably would have encountered more friendly people had I frequented the boards more.

Anyway, if anyone knows of a WOF board where we can go, please let me know.

Thanks.

A belated welcome to the forums. You are so kind and sound so nice. Welcome.

Ok, now that I've applied for 3rd place on your freindly list .....

There are many WoF "places." Many are dead end alleys built by the WoF-critic to corral and beat and pummel us.

CF is a place that, at least in rules, set up a place for us (and each place for others) to fellowship in relative peace. This is the Web -- ANYONE can come into ANY forum and begin a conversation. It will take time anywhere (from days down to milliseconds) to determine if they are truly WoF. The power of keeping this forum clean is to report the offenders; not to try to talk them out of their belief, or get them to understand ours. They didn't come for understanding. So those seeds, in both directions, can be planted elsewhere. Use the rules to report people who obviously do not share core WoF beliefs.

But moving on to the next "CF" is not the answer. They will follow, and then you will be moving on again and again and again.

Now taking a sabbatical away from forums is another matter. If they are under your skin, you may need to back off and refresh. Go and repair the armor, sharpen the sword. Then come back and love them even more.

I'm on sabbatical from a rather nasty back-alley right now. One of them found me here and I had to end that thread. It was removed. The rules work when we work them. The current critic is on notice; we'll see.

But let's not give up completely. Rest? Sure. Quit? Never.

 

[CindyisHis]

Looks like the face of CF has changed greatly in our part of the world here.

I'm staying.

 

[ABlessedAnomaly]

Looks like the face of CF has changed greatly in our part of the world here.

I'm staying.

Absolutely Cooooooooooooool !!

 

[JuliaChicken]

You sound a decent folk, Cindy. I hope you don't go away.

Personally, I have yet to figure out how these forums work, so I have not been able to get into any trouble, even though I joined quite a while ago.

If you promise to stay, I'll promise to learn these forums ----

so, there's a bipolar section? How about doofus section?

 

[Yitzchak]

I have been watching things on the message board. Considering what I am seeing. I have been on here for eight years and have been on staff as a moderator twice in that time.

I am not word of faith , but I am not anti word of faith. I was converted into the Mennonite church and then switched to the Assembly of God church because I received the baptism of The Holy Spirit. I have never had occasion to be word of faith.

Although we just moved nine months ago and visited a word of faith church here. I really liked it. Recently Jerry Savelle has helped me a lot. I stepped out in faith in some big ways and was in prayer about it and God led me to listen to Jerry Savelle for the first time ever. It was exactly what I needed to hear. I have also been greatly helped by Keith Moore and Joyce Meyer.

I don't care very much about the label that people wear or that is given to them. I know that God led me to benefit from these ministries just as much as I know that I am saved. To say that they are God-sends would be literally true.

My wife jokes that she is the real word of faith person because she has never been a part of word of faith but she finds herself agreeing with Jerry Savelle and Keith Moore about everything that they say because she found it through studying the Bible and through prayer already. She says that she sees God as her loving father and it just makes sense to her that God wants to bless us.

For myself , I have always struggled a lot with worry and fear in certain areas. The biggest thing that I notice with Keith Moore and Jerry Savelle is the way that they talk about God. They talk about God in a way that sounds like God is their Dad.

It might sound strange , but I sometimes come to tears and it messes me up emotionally for a few days after I listen to some of the teachings. I had an abusive Dad growing up and then he left and I had no Dad after that. I have some really deep wounds and one of them is in trusting God as my source.

I know in my head about God being my Dad and I have even had some times of major healing in this area where my heart was touched. But some of the wounds are stuffed down so deep that I forget that they are even there until God starts poking at them through these teachings.

I did not realize is how much my struggle with finances and healing and prosperity is linked to my view of who God is. When I listen to Keith Moore , I feel the love of God in what he teaches. Somehow it gets behind my defenses and hits those unhealed areas.

People have written books about the love languages. Somehow , Keith Moore has gotten a revelation on some of the ways that God shows his love to us that minister to me.

There have been times when I listen for a while and then I take a break to collect my courage to listen to another series. It is not easy to face these wounded areas inside of me. but then after I feel free of things that were a part of me for so long that I forget or maybe never knew it could feel whole in that area. There are some series which I thought would be a boring subject that I thought I already knew about. But I have been back to this one series four times now and still have not finished it because I get part way through it and it messes me up emotionally. I go and pray and digest what is being downloaded into my spirit.

So for me , it is not a doctrine or a denominational loyalty. It is about God and what he wants to say to my heart. When I see God in what is being imparted , my heart feels things that I never saw that way before. It has to be the anointing. It is very powerful in a quiet way that sneaks up on me.


From my point of view , the word of faith movement is being vindicated when I come and post in here , I feel the Holy Spirit and feel edified. I don't even need answers to all of the questions that people are asking. If I feel God , that is enough for me.

 

[pdudgeon]

I have been watching things on the message board. Considering what I am seeing. I have been on here for eight years and have been on staff as a moderator twice in that time.

I am not word of faith , but I am not anti word of faith. I was converted into the Mennonite church and then switched to the Assembly of God church because I received the baptism of The Holy Spirit. I have never had occasion to be word of faith.

Although we just moved nine months ago and visited a word of faith church here. I really liked it. Recently Jerry Savelle has helped me a lot. I stepped out in faith in some big ways and was in prayer about it and God led me to listen to Jerry Savelle for the first time ever. It was exactly what I needed to hear. I have also been greatly helped by Keith Moore and Joyce Meyer.

I don't care very much about the label that people wear or that is given to them. I know that God led me to benefit from these ministries just as much as I know that I am saved. To say that they are God-sends would be literally true.

My wife jokes that she is the real word of faith person because she has never been a part of word of faith but she finds herself agreeing with Jerry Savelle and Keith Moore about everything that they say because she found it through studying the Bible and through prayer already. She says that she sees God as her loving father and it just makes sense to her that God wants to bless us.

For myself , I have always struggled a lot with worry and fear in certain areas. The biggest thing that I notice with Keith Moore and Jerry Savelle is the way that they talk about God. They talk about God in a way that sounds like God is their Dad.

It might sound strange , but I sometimes come to tears and it messes me up emotionally for a few days after I listen to some of the teachings. I had an abusive Dad growing up and then he left and I had no Dad after that. I have some really deep wounds and one of them is in trusting God as my source.

I know in my head about God being my Dad and I have even had some times of major healing in this area where my heart was touched. But some of the wounds are stuffed down so deep that I forget that they are even there until God starts poking at them through these teachings.

I did not realize is how much my struggle with finances and healing and prosperity is linked to my view of who God is. When I listen to Keith Moore , I feel the love of God in what he teaches. Somehow it gets behind my defenses and hits those unhealed areas.

People have written books about the love languages. Somehow , Keith Moore has gotten a revelation on some of the ways that God shows his love to us that minister to me.

There have been times when I listen for a while and then I take a break to collect my courage to listen to another series. It is not easy to face these wounded areas inside of me. but then after I feel free of things that were a part of me for so long that I forget or maybe never knew it could feel whole in that area. There are some series which I thought would be a boring subject that I thought I already knew about. But I have been back to this one series four times now and still have not finished it because I get part way through it and it messes me up emotionally. I go and pray and digest what is being downloaded into my spirit.

So for me , it is not a doctrine or a denominational loyalty. It is about God and what he wants to say to my heart. When I see God in what is being imparted , my heart feels things that I never saw that way before. It has to be the anointing. It is very powerful in a quiet way that sneaks up on me.


From my point of view , the word of faith movement is being vindicated when I come and post in here , I feel the Holy Spirit and feel edified. I don't even need answers to all of the questions that people are asking. If I feel God , that is enough for me.

^^^this is wonderful!

i remember when i first came here and found WOF. I did need some answers about praying for healing. I never knew why we couldn't just simply ask God to heal and believe that He would because He loved us. why it always had to be 'if He wanted to" , or 'if it was His will" never made sense to me. like you i think that doctrine came out of a flawed earthly relationship and a sense of 'being good enough for God to love us.' (which also never made any sense.)

so i came here and i studied what WOF wrote, and it was a whole new way of thinking about God, seeing God for who He is, and accepting His love that was based upon who He is, and not on how good I am (or am not).

I learned how faithful He is, how wise He is, about His holiness, and His wisdom. No where else could I find that in all the world than what i found in the character of God. no sacrifice of mine could ever hope to match the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for me.
So i learned how to curl up and rest in the heart of God, protected, cherished, and loved. nothing else but WOF gives me that .

 

[ABlessedAnomaly]

So i learned how to curl up and rest in the heart of God, protected, cherished, and loved.

Absolutely beautiful !!!

 

[CindyisHis]

no sacrifice of mine could ever hope to match the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for me.

And I agree with you in that Yitz post was wonderful. All these have been a real blessing. This is what the forums out to be all about, Christians sharing their faith and love.

 

[jesus always loves me]

I have been watching things on the message board. Considering what I am seeing. I have been on here for eight years and have been on staff as a moderator twice in that time.

I am not word of faith , but I am not anti word of faith. I was converted into the Mennonite church and then switched to the Assembly of God church because I received the baptism of The Holy Spirit. I have never had occasion to be word of faith.

Although we just moved nine months ago and visited a word of faith church here. I really liked it. Recently Jerry Savelle has helped me a lot. I stepped out in faith in some big ways and was in prayer about it and God led me to listen to Jerry Savelle for the first time ever. It was exactly what I needed to hear. I have also been greatly helped by Keith Moore and Joyce Meyer.

I don't care very much about the label that people wear or that is given to them. I know that God led me to benefit from these ministries just as much as I know that I am saved. To say that they are God-sends would be literally true.

My wife jokes that she is the real word of faith person because she has never been a part of word of faith but she finds herself agreeing with Jerry Savelle and Keith Moore about everything that they say because she found it through studying the Bible and through prayer already. She says that she sees God as her loving father and it just makes sense to her that God wants to bless us.

For myself , I have always struggled a lot with worry and fear in certain areas. The biggest thing that I notice with Keith Moore and Jerry Savelle is the way that they talk about God. They talk about God in a way that sounds like God is their Dad.

It might sound strange , but I sometimes come to tears and it messes me up emotionally for a few days after I listen to some of the teachings. I had an abusive Dad growing up and then he left and I had no Dad after that. I have some really deep wounds and one of them is in trusting God as my source.

I know in my head about God being my Dad and I have even had some times of major healing in this area where my heart was touched. But some of the wounds are stuffed down so deep that I forget that they are even there until God starts poking at them through these teachings.

I did not realize is how much my struggle with finances and healing and prosperity is linked to my view of who God is. When I listen to Keith Moore , I feel the love of God in what he teaches. Somehow it gets behind my defenses and hits those unhealed areas.

People have written books about the love languages. Somehow , Keith Moore has gotten a revelation on some of the ways that God shows his love to us that minister to me.

There have been times when I listen for a while and then I take a break to collect my courage to listen to another series. It is not easy to face these wounded areas inside of me. but then after I feel free of things that were a part of me for so long that I forget or maybe never knew it could feel whole in that area. There are some series which I thought would be a boring subject that I thought I already knew about. But I have been back to this one series four times now and still have not finished it because I get part way through it and it messes me up emotionally. I go and pray and digest what is being downloaded into my spirit.

So for me , it is not a doctrine or a denominational loyalty. It is about God and what he wants to say to my heart. When I see God in what is being imparted , my heart feels things that I never saw that way before. It has to be the anointing. It is very powerful in a quiet way that sneaks up on me.


From my point of view , the word of faith movement is being vindicated when I come and post in here , I feel the Holy Spirit and feel edified. I don't even need answers to all of the questions that people are asking. If I feel God , that is enough for me.

I feel the same way. I feel the Holy Spirit and am strengthened on this site.

 

[jesus always loves me]

^^^this is wonderful!

i remember when i first came here and found WOF. I did need some answers about praying for healing. I never knew why we couldn't just simply ask God to heal and believe that He would because He loved us. why it always had to be 'if He wanted to" , or 'if it was His will" never made sense to me. like you i think that doctrine came out of a flawed earthly relationship and a sense of 'being good enough for God to love us.' (which also never made any sense.)

so i came here and i studied what WOF wrote, and it was a whole new way of thinking about God, seeing God for who He is, and accepting His love that was based upon who He is, and not on how good I am (or am not).

I learned how faithful He is, how wise He is, about His holiness, and His wisdom. No where else could I find that in all the world than what i found in the character of God. no sacrifice of mine could ever hope to match the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross for me.
So i learned how to curl up and rest in the heart of God, protected, cherished, and loved. nothing else but WOF gives me that .

So true. The Hope and Faith and Truth and Love here are so powerful.

 

[Yitzchak]

I have noticed that the public school system really emphasizes critical thinking especially at the High school and University levels. I suppose it is is a philosophy built upon being a skeptic. They teach this scientific model of questioning everything. I suppose this has it's applications in life but I have noticed that it tends to build people's thinking in a way to where people are believing things that are not according to God's word.

Being critical of God's word is not a good thing and leads people into unbelief. It is like being a lawyer and trying to build a case by using every bit of information to discredit the other side. When we come up against people who are using this method to try and discredit us and to try and discredit what God has done in our life. Then it is like the well known saying "You have the right to remain silent ,everything that you say , can and will be used against you in a court of law "


Reading the Bible with an attitude of gathering ammo to attack someone is a wrong way to approach the Bible. I think it is fair to call that a critical spirit.

I came across this article while doing a google search on being critical.

Do You have a Critical Spirit?

From the article.

A “critical spirit,” is an obsessive attitude of criticism and fault-finding, which seeks to tear others down — not the same thing as what is sometimes called “constructive criticism.” The only criticism that is ever constructive is that which is expressed in love to “build up,” not to tear down — it is always expressed face-to-face, never behind their back.

The person with a critical spirit usually dwells on the negative, seeks for flaws rather than good. They’re a complainer, usually always upset, and generally have a problem or a complaint about something. They often have little control over their tongue, their temper, and have tendencies for gossip and slander, which Paul said were sins “worthy of death”

From over 10,000 case studies, he discovered that there was a common trait with all his patients who suffered from severe tension. They were habitual fault-finders, constant critics of people and things around them. Those who were free from tension, were the least critical. His conclusions were that the habit of fault-finding is a prelude or mark of the nervous, or the mentally unbalanced. Those who wish to retain good emotional and mental health, should learn to free themselves from a negative and critical attitude.

Remember this, the Bible doesn’t promise peace to those who dwell on the faults of others! It says that the Lord will keep them in perfect peace, whose minds are stayed on Him! (Isaiah 26:3).

We really should pray for these people.

 

[Gander]

I look in on these forums from time to time, but I never feel comfortable here. The forums are built on the lines of division and segregation. I'm not sure that is a good thing for anybody.

 

[ABlessedAnomaly]

I look in on these forums from time to time, but I never feel comfortable here. The forums are built on the lines of division and segregation. I'm not sure that is a good thing for anybody.

Are you talking about CF as a whole, or the Word of Faith forum specifically?

What CF employs here is a design to facilitate like-minded people to be able to praise, worship, share and teach together. There are places herein where non-like-minded people can debate and question each other; but those places are set off so they do not invade the space of the people who do not want to be part of that type of posting.

Further, if you disagree with a certain forum's beliefs and you want to go in and challenge those beliefs -- how does one know that you are right and the forum that you are injecting yourself into is wrong?? These issues, here at CF, can be talked and debated in their own area and thus each forum is kept "clean" to its own beliefs. Trust me, this is definitely not a bad setup.