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By all means, if its 'Buy at walmart or starve', buy at walmart. But I was talking to bshmte's point that you should always buy at wallmart, no matter your budget, because it's cheaper there, and that there is no reason to not buy there.

What do I care where people shop?

For me, I buy certain products and choose the best value for those same products.
 
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Which PROVES that appearntly money is more important than a LOT of things. Raise food yourself sew things yourself. Yes, I shop at walmart, BUT if I had enough issues with them or any other business you quit providing them business. Same applies to people complaining that businesses are open on Sunday do not provide business on that day and they will either be forced to close on Sunday or just be flat out required to close.

I think you are missing the point. Not every body has a back yard or can sew. Also when you make a crappy wage you do what you can to survive. I shop at wm because I have too not because I want to. I simply don't have quality land here and it's too hot for container gardening. I knit and crochet but for some reason my sewing is terrible.
 
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I think you are missing the point. Not every body has a back yard or can sew. Also when you make a crappy wage you do what you can to survive. I shop at wm because I have too not because I want to. I simply don't have quality land here and it's too hot for container gardening. I knit and crochet but for some reason my sewing is terrible.
Yeah I guess it is easy for me to say living where I do where my family HAS that option and many choose to use it and also have land to hunt and my particular family's case fish on so if we HAD to we probably COULD make it. Also, remember that (usually) the cheaper the food the worst it is FOR you. This applies to fast food and while canned vegetables are usually cheaper than fresh or frozen ones due to the salt and other things used to preserve them it is also worse for you than either of the other two. I am not saying that many Americans do not overeat I would be lying if I said that I did not on a way to often basis. What I WILL say is whether it is be force or by choice the cheaper food is worse for you ( general on average) meaning that even if you eat "right"you may still have health and weight problems that result from HOW you buy and certainly how you prepare the food.
 
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What do I care where people shop?

For me, I buy certain products and choose the best value for those same products.

You know what, fine. If you just say that it is your choice, go for it, do what you want.

But YOU were replying to people, saying:

Regardless of whether you are on a tight budget, what is the purpose of paying 20% more for products, when you can get the exact same product for 20% less somewhere else?

So I was just making examples of why someone might decide not to carry their money to walmart.
 
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You know what, fine. If you just say that it is your choice, go for it, do what you want.

But YOU were replying to people, saying:



So I was just making examples of why someone might decide not to carry their money to walmart.

Yes and I stand by that statement. I personally don't understand the reason a person would go across the street, to buy the same brand product for 20% more.

Well wait, I probably do understand. Some people may like the esthetics of another store, or the appearance of the employees in other store and feel there is a status in paying more and that is fine by me.

It's the same thing with automobiles with me. I have owned new Mercedes, Volvos, American cars, Acuras and Toyotas. The Mercedes was fun to drive, but exceedingly expense to maintain and had it's share of mechanical failures. The American cars were less expensive, but of poor quality and reliability, while the Japanese models, were less expensive than the Mercedes, more expensive than the American cars, but performed almost as well as the Mercedes and far better in regards to reliability, so I lean heavily towards their products. I could afford the Mercedes, but the status piece is not important to me. And by the way, the Volvo was the worst car I have ever owned. I spent more time bringing it to the dealership to be repaired, then I drove it on the road.
 
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You'd have to be living under a rock to think that walmart has the best prices. Both target and costco kick their butt, and are far better businesses in every respect.

Target? Your kidding right?

There is a Target across the street from the Wal Mart I shop at and their prices for the same exact product, can be 25% higher than Wal Mart. Costco? I have a membership there and a few of their items are cheaper (if you buy in massive bulk) but many are still higher, even when you buy in bulk.
 
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Our Walmart is a real dump. People just throw things around, things are out of packages, it's hard to find anything, their lines are terrible, they inspect receipts, and I am skeptical about any fresh food purchased there. Target is nicer but I still saw someone arrested last time I was there. There are closer discount stores for specific types of merchandise. As a result, I only shop at Walmart if I can't find what I need anywhere else local. In places where Walmart is lousy and competition remains, it doesn't stack up too well IMO. I do shop at the Sam's Club here because it is a pleasant shopping experience, the selection is better suited to our needs than Costco's, and the prices are good.

My mother lives in a ritzier area and her Walmart is much nicer.
 
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I shop at walmart, but wholeheartedly wish I could get everything from the Trader Joe's here and Whole Foods. I still purchase some things from both of those stores, at an approximate amount of 60% walmart, 20% Trader Joe's, and 20% Whole Foods per month. If I had more money to spend on food I would buy more from the better two stores. Unfortunately right now I do not. As others said, people on a budget and especially with large families have to survive. For everyone else, it would be ideal to at least buy one or two things from a local store, preferably a natural one, imo. Even when I shop at walmart I make sure my dollar vote goes to things like gluten free foods, fruit smoothies without additives, locally grown food, and the few organic things they do have...

You'd have to be living under a rock to think that walmart has the best prices. Both target and costco kick their butt, and are far better businesses in every respect.
I agree with bhsmte, Target is incredibly overpriced at least where I live. I honestly don't know how they're still in business here other than from people with a relatively disposable income and maybe the few Target brand items they have there. They have a sale every now and then that, at best, matches walmart's regular prices.
 
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Target? Your kidding right?

There is a Target across the street from the Wal Mart I shop at and their prices for the same exact product, can be 25% higher than Wal Mart. Costco? I have a membership there and a few of their items are cheaper (if you buy in massive bulk) but many are still higher, even when you buy in bulk.

Which products in particular and at what prices?

I buy my sunscreen from target. It's always more expensive than walmart.

Iced tea costs 3 cents more at my local grocery store than at walmart, because of walmart's peculiar pricing: .96 vs .99 cents elsewhere.

Frozen food items are essentially identical in pricing from what I can tell.

Electronics items are both outdated and far more expensive at walmart.

No one is foolish enough to believe that a single retailer is less expensive with every item they sell. Pricing is very dynamic, and it pays to shop around.

Overall, I find the walmart shopping experience disgusting, and the prices no lower than other big box discounters.

Not to mention that walmart is several miles further away, costing time and money to save 3 cents or 12 cents on the 2 or 3 items that cost less at walmart compared to target.
 
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I shop at walmart, but wholeheartedly wish I could get everything from the Trader Joe's here and Whole Foods. I still purchase some things from both of those stores, at an approximate amount of 60% walmart, 20% Trader Joe's, and 20% Whole Foods per month. If I had more money to spend on food I would buy more from the better two stores. Unfortunately right now I do not. As others said, people on a budget and especially with large families have to survive. For everyone else, it would be ideal to at least buy one or two things from a local store, preferably a natural one, imo. Even when I shop at walmart I make sure my dollar vote goes to things like gluten free foods, fruit smoothies without additives, locally grown food, and the few organic things they do have...


I agree with bhsmte, Target is incredibly overpriced at least where I live. I honestly don't know how they're still in business here other than from people with a relatively disposable income and maybe the few Target brand items they have there. They have a sale every now and then that, at best, matches walmart's regular prices.

Graphic T's are $8, Poly gym tops are $10, jeans are $15 regular price, button downs are $5 on the clearance rack.

Budget gourmet's are a $1. House brand gourmet frozen pizza's are $4.

I'm not sure what you people expect. Should target just give you stuff for free? I have no objection to that, but that's the only way that they could make it cheaper.
 
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I buy everything but groceries from Walmart because I want to support China's manufacturing economy.

Or, you can buy american, for inferior quality and to support the military industrial complex responsible for slaughtering milions of innocent people worldwide under the false pretense of fighting "terrorism."
 
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Graphic T's are $8, Poly gym tops are $10, jeans are $15 regular price, button downs are $5 on the clearance rack.

Budget gourmet's are a $1. House brand gourmet frozen pizza's are $4.

I'm not sure what you people expect. Should target just give you stuff for free? I have no objection to that, but that's the only way that they could make it cheaper.
Well, now you're talking about good deals, if the prices are that low here as well.

The only other issue I could see is that people don't want to make multiple stops so they just get everything where the price, overall, is cheaper. Sure, you can get a pizza for $4, but what about everything else you eat? If they actually have good food deals now though, as you say, then that would be why they're still in business.

The last time I went to a Target was quite a while back, so I'm definitely outdated on their pricing. I just remember how incredibly ridiculous the prices were no matter where I looked around when I went to get one thing they had on sale, and after that, I never went back. It was a pretty big turn off. Either I was looking in the wrong sections, or they've cleaned up their prices a bit.

Or, you can buy american, for inferior quality and to support the military industrial complex responsible for slaughtering milions of innocent people worldwide under the false pretense of fighting "terrorism."
So true...
 
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Here's an example of what $700 buys you if it's american made:

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Exhibit 2:

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It can be raced in any race and will last indefinitely.

I don't want to go too far off topic, but leave the xenophobic comments to stormfront, not christianforums.
 
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Why you would cite your buying of gluten free food as a good thing is beyond me, but something for a whole different thread. Other than that, it is nice to see that most people approach this issue with more insight than 'If it's cheaper, I'll buy it where it's cheaper'.
 
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I don't want to go too far off topic, but leave the xenophobic comments to stormfront, not christianforums.
I think you misunderstood me there. I was agreeing with your comment, not being xenophobic. I just put the ellipses after my remark because I wish, so much, that it could be different. It is a very sad state of affairs in this country now...

To be honest, I am completely in love with Japanese things, actually. I grew up playing games created by the Japanese (Pokemon, etc) and have even learned some rudimentary Japanese. There is even a quote in Japanese below all my posts, in my signature.

But I will cease being off topic now, just needed to clear that up.

Why you would cite your buying of gluten free food as a good thing is beyond me, but something for a whole different thread. Other than that, it is nice to see that most people approach this issue with more insight than 'If it's cheaper, I'll buy it where it's cheaper'.
It's just that gluten free is often more healthy than conventional foods, so I gravitate to it. If I must shop at walmart, I try to make my purchases support companies that are conscious of people's health, not just their own profit margin. Even the best companies aren't immune to this, but it's the best I can do for now. Just thought it might have been relevant.
 
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Which products in particular and at what prices?

I buy my sunscreen from target. It's always more expensive than walmart.

Iced tea costs 3 cents more at my local grocery store than at walmart, because of walmart's peculiar pricing: .96 vs .99 cents elsewhere.

Frozen food items are essentially identical in pricing from what I can tell.

Electronics items are both outdated and far more expensive at walmart.

No one is foolish enough to believe that a single retailer is less expensive with every item they sell. Pricing is very dynamic, and it pays to shop around.

Overall, I find the walmart shopping experience disgusting, and the prices no lower than other big box discounters.

Not to mention that walmart is several miles further away, costing time and money to save 3 cents or 12 cents on the 2 or 3 items that cost less at walmart compared to target.

Just about every name brand product is less expensive at wal mart, from my experience and I mean the EXACT same brand, whether it is; bread, yogurt, ketchup, booze, toilet paper, cleaning products, dog food, frozen foods, light bulbs, auto products, some electronics and I could go on and on and on. Again, I am talking about the SAME name brand products that many stores sell and Target is not even in the ballpark for those same products. Costco is competitive with some (if you bulk), but some of the same products are still higher, even when you buy the bulk quantities.
 
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Or, you can buy american, for inferior quality and to support the military industrial complex responsible for slaughtering milions of innocent people worldwide under the false pretense of fighting "terrorism."

I wouldn't say that the quality of Walmart Chinese goods are fair or even good. The electronics are outdated and not much cheaper than their consumer competition. Their home good are poor to fair for the price. Other stores have American made products that do cost more, but are of a much higher quality.

I find that Walmart teeters between lower price/same quality and similar price/inferior quantity.
 
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