Voting issues

[ZiSunka]

Hope you don't mind a Methodist crashing the party, but I have something to add.

You're not crashing, it's an open house!

 

[Cright]

Hope you don't mind a Methodist crashing the party, but I have something to add.

The National Counsil of Churches which many of your churches are members of released ten "Christian Principals in an Election Year." All churches that are members of the NCC agreed on these:


http://www.ncccusa.org/news/04christianprinciplesstory.html

More than welcome to add your $.02, however... with all due respect your quote (the one below) is a bunch of bunk...

1. War is contrary to the will of God. While the use of violent force may, at times, be a necessity of last resort, Christ pronounces his blessing on the peacemakers. We look for political leaders who will make peace with justice a top priority and who will actively seek nonviolent solutions to conflict.
2. God calls us to live in communities shaped by peace and cooperation. We reject policies that abandon large segments of our inner city and rural populations to hopelessness. We look for political leaders who will re-build our communities and bring an end to the cycles of violence and killing.

3. God created us for each other, and thus our security depends on the well-being of our global neighbors. We look for political leaders for whom a foreign policy based on cooperation and global justice is an urgent concern.

4. God calls us to be advocates for those who are most vulnerable in our society. We look for political leaders who yearn for economic justice and who will seek to reduce the growing disparity between rich and poor.

5. Each human being is created in the image of God and is of infinite worth. We look for political leaders who actively promote racial justice and equal opportunity for everyone.

6. The earth belongs to God and is intrinsically good. We look for political leaders who recognize the earth's goodness, champion environmental justice, and uphold our responsibility to be stewards of God’s creation.

7. Christians have a biblical mandate to welcome strangers. We look for political leaders who will pursue fair immigration policies and speak out against xenophobia.

8. Those who follow Christ are called to heal the sick. We look for political leaders who will support adequate, affordable and accessible health care for all.

9. Because of the transforming power of God’s grace, all humans are called to be in right relationship with each other. We look for political leaders who seek a restorative, not retributive, approach to the criminal justice system and the individuals within it.

10. Providing enriched learning environments for all of God’s children is a moral imperative. We look for political leaders who will advocate for equal educational opportunity and abundant funding for children’s services.

1. War is not contrary to God - have you read the OT? I have never seen anywhere in the bible God commandds us not to go to war. I'd like to see you tell this to all the Christian men in our military who have been over there takeing out the terriorists (my bro-in law included).
2. We are called to live in communities but we are not "called" to be peaceful. We are called to be courteous, but not peaceful.
3. God did create us for Him, to show Him love we must love each other.. doesn't mean we need to all agree. (however w/ the war on Terror Bush has over 40 allies.. not enough.. but for Kerry to follow through w/ his 'plan' he would be spitting in the face of more than 20 of them to earn a few of the nuterals)
4. God does not call us to "advocate" for ANYONE! He tells us to feed hungary and clothe the poor he does NOT call us to advocate for them or how they got themselves in that situation. He does NOT call for us to feel sorry for anyone. Because a gay person is more "vulunerable" in society than a straight person does not mean I need to advocate them.. I should witness to them and teach them right from wrong!!!
5. you take this out of context. We are made in God's image... we should all be treated fairly but not equal... there should be JUSTICE for all, not equality for all.. I should NOT be treated equally to a child or a senior citizen. **NOTE** God doesn't even treat us equally does he? He gives some gifts to dance at the same time someone else the deafness.. not equal is it? But he is a just and fair God to all of his children!
6. I agree that we should be taking care of our "home" (1 for 6 now)
7. We should take care of strangers.. but there should be regulation to who comes in and when.. ESPECIALLY during a time of war. Illegal immigrants should be kicked back to their own country until they follow the rules and get in the right way. They should not be living off of our system. They should not be allowed to govern our country EVER.
8. This one irks me like I could never explain in a post..mad: <-- doesn't even show 1/2 of it...) WHY OH WHY DO AMERICAN'S THINK THAT WE ARE OWED EVERYTHING.. THAT IT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO US??? The Lord told us that we should not be lazy.. he warned us.. and Paul did too.. check out what he told the thessolonians! (2 Thes 3:8-10). American's have it good.. if we don't have health insurance (like me for the last year) we can go to the health department and get flu shots, check up's, yearly ple hours.. it costs 5-25 bucks... American's want to be catered too.. they don't want to stand in lines. ICK!!!
9. I don't even know what you are TRYING to say here.. but I can tell you we're not called to be in a "RIGHT RELATIONSHIP with each other". We are called to love one another... again I say this.. love, not agree. what do you mean by "right".
10.I don't know you can bring God into education without putting parents responsible first. As someone raised in a public school system with a fiance, sister and aunt who are/have been teachers I know that the problem is not 1st with funding.. that is secondary.. it is FIRST with LACK OF PARENTAL SUPPORT.... but the parents don't want to take ACCOUNTABILITY.. so they put it back on the schools and the government... again.. LAZY.. those who don't teach their children will have unlearned children would be more of the philosophy (think 2thes3 again!)

I'm not being critical of you wired spirit.. I realise you were not the author of this quote.. but I would be more careful to know your bible better when reading secular material so that you know what is Godly or CLEARLY NOT when you see it. whoever wrote that did it based on their FEELINGS... like most liberals think. Instead of with facts and accountability and understand of consiquences before acting. That list is NO WHERE NEAR BIBLICALLY BASED!

Off my soap box for the moment...

God Bless,
Carina