Vote for CF's vision

[porterross]

Wow! Erwin seems to be listening and hopefully our votes will matter here.


http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=5787680

 

[Jim47]

I honestly don't kn ow how to vote. Of course I want this to be a Christian site, but I also want unbelievers to come here so we can witness to them.


I think the 2 choices were poorly written

 

[dinkime]

correct, jim! it needs to be like before, but with an openness to unbelievers (which we had, so that part confuses me?!)

 

[Melethiel]

Where the button for Option 1.5?

 

[Jim47]

Where the button for Option 1.5?

Maybe we should edit Erwin's poll heh?

 

[DaSeminarian]

I think that Erwin only sees two choices and they are either Black or White. The black is the status quo and the white is the way it was before.

Does he not realize that we have other colors? The problem as I see is this. Each confession of faith (Lutheran, Catholic, Orthodox, American Evangelicals etc) are not unified and therefore when an unbeliever comes in to one of these tight-knit communities they are getting inundated with different nuances of the important doctrines of the faith. Baptism is not understood the same in all confessions.

The Lutherans, Catholics and Orthodox understand baptism to be a means of grace to salvation. The American Evangelicals see baptism as an expression of faith already imputed in their life.

How can we ever be unified if our doctrinal positions on the sacraments? The American Evangelicals will call these minor issues, but they are not minor. They are important and major because they reflect the empasis that is put on Christ crucified for our sins.

I think I will vote option 2 because the way it is now is a mess and it needs to be cleaned up.

 

[LilLamb219]

Option 2 should at the very least be reworded. This should be a Christian site, but not a Christian only site as it is worded in that option.

 

[Melethiel]

Maybe we should edit Erwin's poll heh?

I've been so tempted to do that...

 

[Jim47]

I've been so tempted to do that...

Go for it, I won't tell

 

[LilLamb219]

OR start a new poll adding your third choice

 

[Jim47]

Option 2 should at the very least be reworded. This should be a Christian site, but not a Christian only site as it is worded in that option.

Neither option is well thought out or well written. I don't know whether to vote or not

 

[Jenna]

I think that the best way to convey one's thoughts would be to vote the way that is more closely aligned with your view, and then add a post as caveat.

 

[Melethiel]

I can't in good conscience vote for either option. I'm hoping that Erwin will actually read the thread and not only look at the poll results, because there have been several good compromises brought up.

 

[porterross]

Voting for Option 2 will send a message that things have become too much of a free-for-all and doing anything but getting Christ's message across. This was my thinking.

Given the wording of the two options, it's pretty clear which way Erwin wants things to be. Between two extremes there must be a solution, but as it has been changed, the animosity is at levels I've never seen here. Something has to give.

 

[Melethiel]

Go for it, I won't tell

Unfortunately, it will show in the edit log...

 

[Jim47]

Unfortunately, it will show in the edit log...

Not if you use Erwin's log in, just PM him and ask for it

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I posted that I was abstaining.

And then I posted that Erwin's site is full of good intentions but so is the road to hell. I'm pretty sure I posted that around here somewhere, too, but I can't remember where, or if it was in reference to the site changes.

 

[DaSeminarian]

I voted for number 2 because I thought at the very least go back to what was there at the beginning of this month and then make a better plan on how to change it. I think Erwin's changes, while a noble idea in some respects, made the forum for some of us a shakier ground than it has been . I think the fear that "atheists" would be running the show was unfounded, but I think more careful planning should have been done before making any changes to what most thought was a good thing.

So I chose #2 for that reason alone. Do I think that we should as Christians be witnessing our faith? By all means, but I don't know if this forum really is the proper medium. Here in TCL we are basicall preaching to the choir most days. We have a comfortable computer clique which I enjoy between classes and homework.

But I don't come here to share my faith, but rather to escape the pressures of the real world and to share my burdens with my friends.

 

[Melethiel]

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=37150680&postcount=718

This is all starting to feel very unreal. Surreal almost. A simulacrum.

 

[porterross]

What do you suppose the parallel universe site will be called: Anti-ChristianForums?