Vigano gives first interview since self-imposed exile

[o_mlly]

Do you know too, please again, what is the deep signification of "necessary" in the previous quotation ?

One whose has willfully rejected God's friendship via mortal sin, must repair the disruption before incorporating HIs body:

The Apostle Paul appeals to this duty when he warns: “Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup” (1 Cor 11:28). Saint John Chrysostom, with his stirring eloquence, exhorted the faithful: “I too raise my voice, I beseech, beg and implore that no one draw near to this sacred table with a sullied and corrupt conscience. Such an act, in fact, can never be called 'communion', not even were we to touch the Lord's body a thousand times over, but 'condemnation', 'torment' and 'increase of punishment'”.73 (EE p. 36)​

Is the sacrament of reconciliation a mandatory rule when sinning seriously ?

Yes, annually.

“After having reached the age of discretion, each member of the faithful is obliged to confess faithfully his or her grave sins at least once a year” (CIC 989)​

Is it necessary to get the reconciliation in order to get the best receptivity and benefits of the Eucharist ?

Although not necessary, the Church recommends frequent reception of the Sacrament of Reconciliation for venial sins.

 

[peter2]

One whose has willfully rejected God's friendship via mortal sin, must repair the disruption before incorporating HIs body:

Yes, annually.

Although not necessary, the Church recommends frequent reception of the Sacrament of Reconciliation for venial sins.

Thank you, o_mlly.

i must admit i find uneasy to condemn incomprehension (i suppose your reporting is correct about reccommendations as for receiving communion ; Actually i believed already something similar at what you explained to me, but wished to get confirmation, for the message of Pope Francis had made me perplex)
Do you know whether Pope Francis's understand potential incomprehension among the faithful? Indeed, i fear i myself gonna have to stop my brain's reflexions in order to remain in line with the pope. Is vegetative life the path to Salvation, or do i suffer from mental disorder ? I get lost

 

[o_mlly]

Thank you, o_mlly.

i must admit i find uneasy to condemn incomprehension (i suppose your reporting is correct about reccommendations as for receiving communion ; Actually i believed already something similar at what you explained to me, but wished to get confirmation, for the message of Pope Francis had made me perplex)
Do you know whether Pope Francis's understand potential incomprehension among the faithful? Indeed, i fear i myself gonna have to stop my brain's reflexions in order to remain in line with the pope. Is vegetative life the path to Salvation, or do i suffer from mental disorder ? I get lost

What specific message from the Pope causes you problems? I admit I do find many of his encyclicals as difficult reading.

 

[peter2]

What specific message from the Pope causes you problems? I admit I do find many of his encyclicals as difficult reading.

The sentence i quoted from him about holy communion as a medicine for the weak, and not a prize for saints. Not difficult to understand alone , but to understand how to make consistent with what you wrote to me at 8 : 34 am

 

[o_mlly]

The sentence i quoted from him about holy communion as a medicine for the weak, and not a prize for saints.

If received in the correct disposition, Eucharist confers graces upon the recipient. Even in the moment of reception, though we may be correctly disposed, we remain weak and susceptible to sinning again. Eucharist strengthens our resolve to amend our lives.

 

[peter2]

If received in the correct disposition, Eucharist confers graces upon the recipient. Even in the moment of reception, though we may be correctly disposed, we remain weak and susceptible to sinning again. Eucharist strengthens our resolve to amend our lives.

Yes, this i told you, i understand, thank you.
I don't know, however,

how to make (it) consistent with what you wrote to me at 6 : 34 am

 

[o_mlly]

Yes, this i told you, i understand, thank you.
I don't know, however,

My French is not as good as your English so we may have misunderstood each other. I suggest you discuss your concerns with your pastor or bishop.

 

[peter2]

My French is not as good as your English so we may have misunderstood each other. I suggest you discuss your concerns with your pastor or bishop.

May be is it wisdom. Thank you, o_mlly

 

[peter2]

I suggest you discuss your concerns with your pastor or bishop.

Hello everyone and o_mlly.

Actually, i hope i gonna meet a priest in the days ahead, that will provide me with an explanation, for it's written in Mt 18, 6 : "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
Now, may be i am a bit of a "little one", and i prevent myself with difficulty of a feeling of offence .

However i remember i read a comforting press article, but i fail to find it again and to remember its precise content : May be yet it's not a so serious issue, if this article wrote truth and if my recall is trustworthy too..

i feel like some insecurity for souls in this affair

 

[Halbhh]

Hello,

(I was busy at work when people were debating this issue, after Pope Francis claimed the sentence in quotation).
So, please, could someone, Halbhh or anyone else, explain me of which use is reconciliation after this claim ? i mean : Is the weakness of sinning a better reason for going and receiving communion than the weakness of the humility to ask for reconciliation ?
Surely, the question's already be debated, but i fail to find where to fetch the answer

Thank you

Yes, but perhaps a far better (or certainly more profoundly powerful) wording is that from Christ Himself in John chapter 6.

This doesn't remove the need to confess sins which make us feel guilty, as we read in 1rst John 1:8-10 we are to do. Rather, it's thought that in addition to confessing sins, we need the body and blood of Christ in a deep profound way which may be beyond our ability to simply state as some concept or such. (but you can read the Catholic explanations like in the catechism, and that's going to be great)

John 6 NIV

biblehub.com

 

[peter2]

Yes, but perhaps a far better (or certainly more profoundly powerful) wording is that from Christ Himself in John chapter 6.

Thank you, Halbhh. i read Jn 6. Gives me matter for another thread i gonna create.
As for

the Catholic explanations like in the catechism

i just have the CEC from JP II, and i doubt i can find explanations there. Did Francis write another version of catechism ?