Video: 'You would think we deported a candidate for father of the year'

[Valletta]

I do not know anything about this case, but I am surprised by your reasoning: "the government concluded". This is not how the law works, this is how tyranny works.

In the "law & order" society, which many Republicans seem to want, police needs to get evidence and charge, prosecutor needs to prosecute, defender needs to defend and a judge decides.

Tyranny is what we just experienced under four years of the Biden regime. Political prisoners, government efforts to stop the number one presidential candidate from campaigning, a government ministry of truth, an attempt to overrun our country with more than 10 millions crossing our borders, government persecution and hoaxes in order to help the Democrat candidate win, an attack on fossil fuels, hundreds of thousands sold into human trafficking/slavery, etc. The American people voted for the guy who said he would deport the illegals, and that is what is being done under the Alien Enemies Act. Democrats violated our border laws and illegally released millions into our country rather than detaining them as the law requires. We are not going to have a lengthy trial for every illegal they let in as Democrats now demand of Trump because they lost the election and their scheme has been halted.

 

[Pommer]

I have’t seen the “defense” of El Salvador (which has had an extradition treaty with the U.S. for 114 years), that Senor Garcia would be returned to his country of birth to stand for “crimes”, but I suspect that this will be trotted out in about a fortnight.

 

[Jermayn]

Why did she bring up an entirely unrelated crime to try and make a point about Abrego Garcia?

There is no proof he’s MS13 or a criminal of any kind or even that he’s still alive. If that’s the case and I strongly believe it is, then this administration sent Mr Garcia to his death and are now trying to smear a man who cannot defend himself or his name.

Shame on this entire corrupt, criminal administration and everyone still supporting these monsters.

Was he here illegally?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Like the rest who were sent to the prison he was legally deported.

Even current DOJ don't agree with you .

This is what the current DOJ wrote in a court filing


“Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the Justice Department wrote in the court filing.

It appears that the current DOJ believes Garcia is not subject to deportation under the law.

 

[wing2000]

I don't care. Garcia did in fact receive due process, and in that process, he was found to a MS-13 gang member, a threat to society, and likely to flee. This is why his request for bond was denied.

...which directly contradicts the United States Supreme Court. I have referred you to their ruling several times on these threads. I can only assume that you don't care about their opinion either.

 

[wing2000]

Was he here illegally?

No one has argued that he did not enter the country illegally.


In 2019, a judge specifically ordered that he shall not be deported to El Salvador.

"The Government remains bound by an Immigration Judge’s 2019 order expressly prohibiting Abrego Garcia’s removal to El Salvador because he faced a “clear probability of future persecution” there and “demonstrated that [El Salvador’s] authorities were and would be unable or unwilling to protect him.” App. to Application To Vacate Injunction 13a. The Government has not challenged the validity of that order."

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a949_lkhn.pdf

Trump's DOJ violated that order and continues to do so.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

...which directly contradicts the United States Supreme Court. I have referred you to their ruling several times on these threads. I can only assume that you don't care about their opinion either.

By the Supreme Court, you mean the leftist shrill who is consistently wrong about everything.

 

[wing2000]

By the Supreme Court, you mean the leftist shrill who is consistently wrong about everything.

No. I mean the entire Court which ruled 9-0 "The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador."

But hey, if Trump doesn't like their decisions, maybe he can pull a Bulkele and simply fire them.

 

[wing2000]

The evidence showing that he is "a verified member of MS-13" was the Gang Field Interview Sheet submitted with Garcia's arrest. You can read it here:

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www.justice.gov

In short, the reasons for deeming him a gang member were his clothing, which even the judge in this case was skeptical of (see above - "the Court is reluctant to give evidentiary weight to the Respondent's clothing as an indication of gang affiliation"), and the word of a "past proven and reliable source of information," which seems to be what the judge granted the most weight to. This source identified Garcia as a member of the Westerns clique of MS-13, and gave his supposed rank and gang name. That sounds perfectly reasonable - unless you're aware that the Westerns clique operates in New York, and Garcia has never lived in New York.

That's it. That's all the evidence that he was a member of MS-13.

...additional details from 2019:

According to his recent complaint, here’s what happened to Abrego Garcia on March 28, 2019: At Home Depot, he joined three other young men looking for jobs. He recognized all three, though he’d never interacted with two of them before. At 2:27 p.m, a Hyattsville City Police officer approached them. Later, officers from the Prince George’s (County) Police Department arrived and handcuffed all four men.

At the station, the four were placed in different rooms. Per the complaint,

Abrego Garcia was asked if he was a gang member; when he told police he was not, they said that they did not believe him and repeatedly demanded that he provide information about other gang members. The police told Plaintiff Abrego Garcia that he would be released if he cooperated, but he repeatedly explained that he did not have any information to give because he did not know anything.

Sometime thereafter, ICE officers arrived and took Abrego Garcia into federal immigration detention. The next day, ICE brought removal proceedings against him. The sole charge was under 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(6)(A)(i), which provides that “[a]n alien present in the United States without being admitted or paroled, or who arrives in the United States at any time or place other than as designated by the Attorney General, is inadmissible.”

Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?

The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[Oompa Loompa]

According to his recent complaint, here’s what happened to Abrego Garcia on March 28, 2019: At Home Depot, he joined three other young men looking for jobs. He recognized all three, though he’d never interacted with two of them before. At 2:27 p.m, a Hyattsville City Police officer approached them. Later, officers from the Prince George’s (County) Police Department arrived and handcuffed all four men.

So he says. However, while receiving his DUE PROCESS in court, his story was found to be inconsistent and without supporting evidence. In other words, he was caught LYING.

 

[JosephZ]

Not hardly.

They've been all but dismantled by the government. This article along with those attached explain it.

The claim was made that Barrio 18 no longer exists in El Salvador. That's not true.

 

[DaisyDay]

Lawfare published a good timeline: Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know?

 

[DaisyDay]

So he says. However, while receiving his DUE PROCESS in court, his story was found to be inconsistent and without supporting evidence. In other words, he was caught LYING.

Garcia has not received due process from the current administration in violation of the Supreme Court's recent ruling and the lower courts' multiple rulings.

 

[rjs330]

No. I mean the entire Court which ruled 9-0 "The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador."

But hey, if Trump doesn't like their decisions, maybe he can pull a Bulkele and simply fire them.

Yes they have to facilitate his release. And they should. El Salvador may decide not to. We can't force them to. But I do believe that this Administration could find a way to work it out. At this point they don't seem to be working very hard at it. I'd like them to do better. Bring him back, give him due process then send him away to El Salvador if they can show the gang he was afraid of was no longer a threat. If they can't show that, then find somewhere else to send him.

 

[SimplyMe]

Trump's "Counterterrorism Czar," Sebastian Gorka, is stating that those advocating for due process for Garcia are "aiding and abetting a terrorist" and could be federally charged. I wonder if the 9 justices on the Supreme Court are among those they are thinking about charging?

 

[Nithavela]

Trump's "Counterterrorism Czar," Sebastian Gorka, is stating that those advocating for due process for Garcia are "aiding and abetting a terrorist" and could be federally charged. I wonder if the 9 justices on the Supreme Court are among those they are thinking about charging?

It would certainly make some room for nine new, more loyal judges.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

If they can't show that, then find somewhere else to send him.

I hear Guantanimo Bay is lovely this time of year.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It would certainly make some room for nine new, more loyal judges.

Appointed by Trump? Sounds like a win.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Trump's "Counterterrorism Czar," Sebastian Gorka, is stating that those advocating for due process for Garcia are "aiding and abetting a terrorist" and could be federally charged. I wonder if the 9 justices on the Supreme Court are among those they are thinking about charging?

Future historians are going to look at this period as a cautionary tale of how easy it is for democracy to fail when the unscrupulous gain power and good people do nothing to stop evil.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[rjs330]

Future historians are going to look at this period as a cautionary tale of how easy it is for democracy to fail when the unscrupulous gain power and good people do nothing to stop evil.

-CryptoLutheran

All because we screwed up and sent a deportable MS13 member to El Salvador when he wasn't supposed to be deported there?

Seems a pretty big stretch.