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Video: 'You would think we deported a candidate for father of the year'

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. He's a prop, a tool, a soapbox for virtue signaling.

Or maybe that's just projection on your part. It seems to me treating Mr. Obrego Garcia as an object for political gain is precisely the point for certain people who relish cruelty towards asylum seekers.
 
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The polished way she defends the indefensible chills my soul.
How can she look her own baby in the eyes without thinking of the atrocity committed against a tiny little boy whose father was illegally kidnapped and deported, snatched as he wept and cried?
I just watched her video report. It looked as if it had been prepared and written by someone else and that she was looking at it for the first time, almost like a spokesmodel, emotionally disconnected from the horrors and falsehoods she was promoting.

...and she wears a cross around her neck. Alas, I guess the words of Jesus only apply to "us" and not the "other".
 
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Is it then in your opinion that if someone has children, they are immune to the consequences of their actions to spare those children from missing their daddy?
I am talking about a particular innocent man apprehended due to "administrative error" and the immorality of doing nothing and lying about the victim.
 
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He's their poster child for showing off how empathetic, compassionate and nonjudgmental they constantly claim to be. While accusing everyone else of being coldhearted and hateful. He's a prop, a tool, a soapbox for virtue signaling.
He is the new flavor of George Floyd. I wonder if anyone remembers Trayvon Martin anymore?
 
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You can claim that the people here who take an opposite view from yours are disingenuous.
When there's a situation involving millions of people all over the internet and media all over the world, that's who I'm talking about.
But I will point out your failure to make headway on the facts and principles of this matter, which is really where the conversation should be centered.
It's not nice to gaslight.
 
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I am talking about a particular innocent man apprehended due to "administrative error" and the immorality of doing nothing and lying about the victim.
Garcia was far from innocent.
 
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Or maybe that's just projection on your part. It seems to me treating Mr. Obrego Garcia as an object for political gain is precisely the point for certain people who relish cruelty towards asylum seekers.
He's deported criminal. Making him out to be a martyr is the glaringly obvious political stunt.
 
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He is the new flavor of George Floyd. I wonder if anyone remembers Trayvon Martin anymore?
Are you compiling an "Innocents Who Lost Their Lives Due to Clueless Conservative Cruelty" Scrapbook?
 
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Garcia was far from innocent.
Those who lie about him and refuse to admit their mistake are furthest from innocent.
Was not the person who ordered his deportation the very same person who called for the execution of the Central Park Five after the real rapist confessed and the innocents released after years in prison?
SMH.
 
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Garcia was far from innocent.

That may be true.

In America, due process means innocent until proven guilty. Garcia has not been proven guilty in any court, either in the USA or El Salvador. He is an undocumented immigrant who should be sent back to his country, but does he deserve to go to prison for a crime he has not been proven guilty of?
 
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He is the new flavor of George Floyd. I wonder if anyone remembers Trayvon Martin anymore?

George Floyed chocked to death by police, and you think he was a “flavor”?

It appears that humanity has reached a point where witnessing the suffering of others is considered a form of “flavor of the month”
 
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Garcia has never lived in NY, where an unsubstantiated claim was made that he was a member there. He has no criminal record in the US or El Salvador.
So why is he afraid of "rival gangs?"
 
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Those who lie about him and refuse to admit their mistake are furthest from innocent.
Was not the person who ordered his deportation the very same person who called for the execution of the Central Park Five after the real rapist confessed and the innocents released after years in prison?
SMH.
Best case for Garcia is that he returns to the United states only to be deported back to El Salvador anyway. Perhaps a better alternative to all the unnecessary steps is for El Salvador to simply release him from prison and stay there.
 
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So why is he afraid of "rival gangs?"

In the United States, individuals are not incarcerated based on their fears but rather only when they are proven guilty of a crime. For the past 100 years, America has also advocated globally that dictators or leaders of a country should not imprison their citizens without due process.
 
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That may be true.

In America, due process means innocent until proven guilty. Garcia has not been proven guilty in any court, either in the USA or El Salvador. He is an undocumented immigrant who should be sent back to his country, but does he deserve to go to prison for a crime he has not been proven guilty of?
I agree. So how do we get El Salvador to release him from prison?
 
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Best case for Garcia is that he returns to the United states only to be deported back to El Salvador anyway. Perhaps a better alternative to all the unnecessary steps is for El Salvador to simply release him from prison and stay there.

You are most likely right.

If the government of El Salvador sends him back, the Trump administration may charge him with a crime, he could be found guilty and returned to El Salvador. This procedure is known as due process.
 
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I agree. So how do we get El Salvador to release him from prison?

If President Trump claims that he is powerful enough to influence Hamas's release of hostages, it is likely that he can negotiate with the El Salvadorian government. After all President Trump authored "Art of the Deal."
 
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I agree. So how do we get El Salvador to release him from prison?
Have you tried to say "please"?

Oh, oh, or another idea - what about doing the same exact chain of actions that got him there, but backwards?
 
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If President Trump claims that he is powerful enough to influence Hamas's release of hostages, it is likely that he can negotiate with the El Salvadorian government. After all President Trump authored "Art of the Deal."
The president is not going to jump every time some liberal says a gang member in a foreign prison is innocent. There are many violent criminals and terrorists let in by Joe Biden that need to be apprehended, and perhaps hundreds of thousands of trafficked women and children who need to be found and freed. President Trump has not objected to Democrat senators traveling to El Salvador and trying to refute the evidence held by the government in El Salvador.
 
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