Verses That Disprove SDA Sabbath

[IOWLBNIF]

Here it is again, in other words, the SDA is just like you, makes no diff. I don't speak to offend but to inform and the truth isn't always swallowed easily.

You, a protestant, any and all other denominations, whether atheist or what ever you believe, God sees all of you just the same.

This is the present condition of this world. What world are you from?

there you go bearing false witness friend.



you dont speak to offend? im not worry about offended


but you must speak your natural tongue.....lies?


How you know what i am or what i believe?

or are you just assuming you know.............because you couldnt be further from the truth my friend

 

[Cribstyl]

Are SDA's not protestant? I'm sorry but I was judging the spirit, I saw no diff. I'll be back later. Have a great day.

Yeah...reshuffle your cards before reading them again.

 

[mog144]

there you go bearing false witness friend. Prove it beyond your words!



you dont speak to offend? im not worry about offended. You speak in defense because you are offended. The truth is a two-edged sword.


but you must speak your natural tongue.....lies? Who's your father?


How you know what i am or what i believe? The spiritual man judges all things including your fruit, and I find bad fruit, simply said.

or are you just assuming you know.............because you couldnt be further from the truth my friend

Jesus said that the worldly people would hate true believers because of the Truth that He teaches. I'm not surprised by your behavior, seen it before many, many times...

 

[IOWLBNIF]

lol



i speak against SDA......how am i a sda?




your puffing yourself up friend, assuming im something im not.



you obviously havent read my posts lol

 

[Cribstyl]

No problem, I didnt think Jesus would contradict his being one with the Father through the other words he spake, they should mesh under the same thought.

Even Jesus prayed that we would be one just as they were one

In respects to the doctrine (He just said it was not his own) that as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things

As He said...

John 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

Yet adds...

John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

And then says here...

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Confirming Moses words "He shall speak all that I shall command him" and I found Jesus confirms Moses there saying (also)

John 7:16 My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Which is why John says...

2John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Why?

John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which THOU gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

For God by Moses said... he shall speak all that I command him

Acts 7:47 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

And likewise...

Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Even as Jesus confirms...

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

So we abide in Jesus Christ AND His words (which even he said were not his own) but the Fathers who sent him. Thus we have both the Father and the Son. The doctrine of Christ is the doctrine of God, they are inseparable even there and in accord with what God spake by Moses (Jesus likewise confirms the same) "He gave me a commandment" (concerning what I shall say) and what I should speak.

And so we are encouraged...

Heb 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

Heb 2:2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;

Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

And He prayed for them....

John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.


John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them,

And not for these alone...

John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

For which cause Paul thanked God...

1Thes 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

I find they are very confirming of each other if handled correctly.

................Preach sister

 

[Fireinfolding]

................Preach sister

God bless Cribstyl

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by IOWLBNIF there you go bearing false witness friend. Prove it beyond your words!

Jesus said that the worldly people would hate true believers because of the Truth that He teaches. I'm not surprised by your behavior, seen it before many, many times...

lol

i speak against SDA......how am i a sda?

your puffing yourself up friend, assuming im something im not.

you obviously havent read my posts lol

Members here rarely read or respond to posts of mine, so don't feel so bad

NKJV) Colossians 2:18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in [false] humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

 

[rockytopva]

Members here rarely read or respond to posts of mine, so don't feel so bad

I'm a reading!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus

Members here rarely read or respond to posts of mine, so don't feel so bad

I'm a reading!

Thank you bro

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[IOWLBNIF]

Members here rarely read or respond to posts of mine, so don't feel so bad

NKJV) Colossians 2:18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in [false] humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

i forgive him like i said...

i thought i was the only one that didnt get read...ahahh

I'm a reading!

Thank you bro

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lol

 

[Ronald]

Your understanding of the 10 Commandments is illogical and dead wrong.

Since you won't listen to my words, I'll give you God's words:
"For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter." Rom. 7:5,6
"nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified." Gal. 2:16
"Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us..." Gal. 3:13
"Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death." Rom. 8:1,2
"For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law." Rom. 3:28
Keep reading those verses over and over until you get it!

Why do you think that God wrote the 10 Commandments in stone

To identify sin.

 

[mog144]

Dear IOWLBNIF, you miss the whole point and you've taken this out of context. Your lack of understanding of my perspective is a stumbling block. I read your post and others, the problem is that you haven't read mine. You are the false accuser! I've given my evidence for my claim, where is your's proving that you aren't breaking the same commandments as the SDA member? The commandments can be broken a million different ways and all it takes is to break one and you've broken them all. The Scripture says that we all fall short of Glory and Grace, are you above the world?

 

[IOWLBNIF]

Im not under the law that is written on tablets of stone, the ministration of death...

(if you would have read my posts you would have seen i posted Corinthians)

Im under the magnified law of Christ....


So if i walk in the Spirit, what law do i break? Things of the spirit, there is no law against.

 

[mog144]

Im not under the law that is written on tablets of stone, the ministration of death...

(if you would have read my posts you would have seen i posted Corinthians)

Im under the magnified law of Christ....


So if i walk in the Spirit, what law do i break? Things of the spirit, there is no law against.

Good point but the question is, of which spirit?

First off, the knowledge of the Law is so that we have knowledge of our sins. Do you agree? Yes_? or No_?

Assuming you answered Yes, I then ask you; what is the difference between "sin" and "transgression"?

If you can give me the Scriptures and interpretation, then I might believe that you are a Man of God. You might be but just don't know it yet. All of God's people in the last-days don't know who they are because of an identity crisis, this is written, all of the prophets wrote of this day.

Revelation says that the entire world is deceived in the last-day; this said, what time are you living in?

We might get somewhere if you can give accurate and honest answers. If not, I'm willing to teach you what I know from Holy Scripture.

 

[IOWLBNIF]

Good point but the question is, of which spirit?

First off, the knowledge of the Law is so that we have knowledge of our sins. Do you agree? Yes_? or No_?

Assuming you answered Yes, I then ask you; what is the difference between "sin" and "transgression"?

If you can give me the Scriptures and interpretation, then I might believe that you are a Man of God. You might be but just don't know it yet. All of God's people in the last-days don't know who they are because of an identity crisis, this is written, all of the prophets wrote of this day.

Revelation says that the entire world is deceived in the last-day; this said, what time are you living in?

We might get somewhere if you can give accurate and honest answers. If not, I'm willing to teach you what I know from Holy Scripture.

have you read my posts???


Transgession is the act of breaking the law

sin is the result of that law being broken....


now you havent read my posts.......because friend if you would have.....you would see i contend, with verses posted askin for explanation on people who follow the letter.



Again i dont follow tablets of stone


i follow the magnified law

 

[IOWLBNIF]

of which Spirit?


There is only one Spirit that there is now law against.....


But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law

 

[winslow]

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[Dale]

Winslow:
"Show me where Paul said christians were worshipping on sunday ..."

That was proven in my post #12.




“1 Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. 2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.”
--1 Corinthians 16:1-2 NIV


The first day of the week is Sunday, and Paul is clearly saying that the Corinthians normally gather for worship on Sunday. This is the day that members contribute any money that they are able to give. Paul tells us that the Galatians were told the same thing, so the Galatians were also routinely worshipping on the first day of the week, Sunday. Paul obviously approves of the Corinthians and the Galatians worshipping on Sunday, and knows that they do so to honor the resurrection of Christ.


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[Dale]

Here's one of the questions I have posed to SDA's in the past.

If it is so important to our souls to worship on the right day of the week ...

How do you know they didn't lose track of the days of the week sometime in the past couple of thousand years?

They lost four years from the calendar. That's why they now say that Christ was born in 4 BC and was crucified in 29 AD at age 33.

They lost four years from the calendar, what's a couple of days?



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[mog144]

The bottom line reason why Sunday worship is popular throughout the ages is because of "woman". It began in Eden and is still the hidden agenda of satan so to deceive the entire world. The devil has reversed the things that God has done then reanimated Creation his way by changing our DNA through lifestyle change from that of God's plan for humankind. The woman was made on the first day of the second week following the seventh-day Sabbath rest with the one man who was both male and female in one body on day-6.

The Son rests with the one man who was both male and female, they are of the same body, mind and spirit and God gives that one man the commandment to not partake of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; the male and female both heard and understood the commandment alike because they were of the same mind and a mind like God, at that! If either one was to say that they didn't understand, it would be like God saying that He doesn't know His own Law. They were both without excuse having this divine knowledge. The devil has the entire world breaking any one commandment just to destroy humankind. The reasons vary greatly so that there's more available avenues to cause people to transgress.

The devil uses woman to trap man, the numbers prove it when you rightly divide the Genesis record of Creation. The world exalts the flesh over God in some fashion, unwittingly and by satan's deceptions. The days play a significant role in rank and power so satan uses these properties to manipulate his way around us humans without our consent and knowledge.

All of the other reasons that followed the Eden incident are secondary, for the use as smoke screens and decoys.

BTW, there will NOT be a Sunday Law crisis for this age in prophecy, it's not time for it. Any push for Sunday observance is a smoke screen because satan doesn't need to cause humankind to break the same commandment in more than one fashion, it only requires one. The SDA church and anybody who honors Saturday are too smart to fall for Sunday. The faithful observance of any weekday is merely of "works" if the Author of that day is forgotten.