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I think you're jumping at shadows.
I hope that doesn't mean I won't be able to draw out my Social Security :oIt's not far off. We're going to find out in the next 0-8 years.
Obama already passed the electronic healthcare records in the porkulus bill. It begins in 2010 with full implementation in 2014, if I recall correctly. A government who controls the health care of a population, controls the population.
Humanity is going to be tagged at some point, just like cows and dogs, and tracked and controlled. Those who refuse will be considered criminals.
Yep,, either you are in the system or you are not... those who wish to not participate in the system,, will not be able to reap any of the benefits. Trusting God to provide will get more serious attention if you decide to not participate.I hope that doesn't mean I won't be able to draw out my Social Security :o
I hope that doesn't mean I won't be able to draw out my Social Security :o
Trial, you seem pretty determined this stuff is all about to start happening soon, got a more concrete prediction? You self identify as cynical, well, me too, and I'd sort of like to have a time frame to be able to determine if you are correct or not. Is that cool?
Like a lot of other Christians, I think Christ will be reigning 70 years after Israel became a nation again which is where I came up with the 0-8 years earlier. (or was that on the other thread?)
I am cynical but I am also a believer. I am not cynical where the Bible is concerned.
We were warned what would be going on as the Day of the Lord is about to begin and Revelation goes into detail about what would happen on the Day of the Lord, after it begins.
The signs are all here that we were to be expecting when the Day of the Lord is about to begin and the set-up for what will be happening after the church is removed is also happening.
I expect the Lord's appearing for the bride could be as early as the next day or two and as late as 2014. Our understanding of the things the Lord said increase every day, as we see things starting to unfold.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7404601/
OK, take the "Left Behind" dvd out of the player and back slowly away from the boob toob...
Ha ha
that the church is watching and waiting, as we are supposed to be.
Here is an interesting explanation but there is a lot more than this:
WHY THE RAPTURE WILL BE ON YOM KIPPUR
After it happens, those who remain will have to decide whether or not they will take the mark of the beast which will be introduced soon after we're gone.
yeah, typical fear mongering nonsense site. In a few years you might set down and figure out that there are numeous ways to 'see' all these matters from a NON external perspective...
know why?
Luke 17:20
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation
And in case ya missed it, Satan has been busy runnin' this hell hole of a planet for about 6000 years already.
but hey, you just keep looking...
yeah, typical fear mongering nonsense site. In a few years you might set down and figure out that there are numeous ways to 'see' all these matters from a NON external perspective...
know why?
Luke 17:20
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation
And in case ya missed it, Satan has been busy runnin' this hell hole of a planet for about 6000 years already.
but hey, you just keep looking...
Ex13:1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.
3And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
4This day came ye out in the month Abib.
5And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.
6Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD.
7Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.
8And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the LORD did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt.
9And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the LORD's law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the LORD brought thee out of Egypt.
10Thou shalt therefore keep this ordinance in his season from year to year.
11And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, as he sware unto thee and to thy fathers, and shall give it thee,
12That thou shalt set apart unto the LORD all that openeth the matrix, and every firstling that cometh of a beast which thou hast; the males shall be the LORD's.
13And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.
14And it shall be when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What is this? that thou shalt say unto him, By strength of hand the LORD brought us out from Egypt, from the house of bondage:
15And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem.
16And it shall be for a token upon thine hand, and for frontlets between thine eyes: for by strength of hand the LORD brought us forth out of Egypt.
17And it came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that God led them not through the way of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they return to Egypt:
18But God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up harnessed out of the land of Egypt.
19And Moses took the bones of Joseph with him: for he had straitly sworn the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you; and ye shall carry up my bones away hence with you.
20And they took their journey from Succoth, and encamped in Etham, in the edge of the wilderness.
21And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:
22He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.
Deut6:1Now these are the commandments, the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go to possess it:
2That thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son's son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
3Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD God of thy fathers hath promised thee, in the land that floweth with milk and honey.
4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
5And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
7And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.
9And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.
10And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall have brought thee into the land which he sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee great and goodly cities, which thou buildedst not,
11And houses full of all good things, which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when thou shalt have eaten and be full;
12Then beware lest thou forget the LORD, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
13Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt swear by his name.
14Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the people which are round about you;
15(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.
16Ye shall not tempt the LORD your God, as ye tempted him in Massah.
17Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.
18And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the LORD: that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest go in and possess the good land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers.
19To cast out all thine enemies from before thee, as the LORD hath spoken.
20And when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What mean the testimonies, and the statutes, and the judgments, which the LORD our God hath commanded you?
21Then thou shalt say unto thy son, We were Pharaoh's bondmen in Egypt; and the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand:
22And the LORD shewed signs and wonders, great and sore, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his household, before our eyes:
23And he brought us out from thence, that he might bring us in, to give us the land which he sware unto our fathers.
24And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
25And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.
Deut11:1Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway.
2And know ye this day: for I speak not with your children which have not known, and which have not seen the chastisement of the LORD your God, his greatness, his mighty hand, and his stretched out arm,
3And his miracles, and his acts, which he did in the midst of Egypt unto Pharaoh the king of Egypt, and unto all his land;
4And what he did unto the army of Egypt, unto their horses, and to their chariots; how he made the water of the Red sea to overflow them as they pursued after you, and how the LORD hath destroyed them unto this day;
5And what he did unto you in the wilderness, until ye came into this place;
6And what he did unto Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, the son of Reuben: how the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their households, and their tents, and all the substance that was in their possession, in the midst of all Israel:
7But your eyes have seen all the great acts of the LORD which he did.
8Therefore shall ye keep all the commandments which I command you this day, that ye may be strong, and go in and possess the land, whither ye go to possess it;
9And that ye may prolong your days in the land, which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give unto them and to their seed, a land that floweth with milk and honey.
10For the land, whither thou goest in to possess it, is not as the land of Egypt, from whence ye came out, where thou sowedst thy seed, and wateredst it with thy foot, as a garden of herbs:
11But the land, whither ye go to possess it, is a land of hills and valleys, and drinketh water of the rain of heaven:
12A land which the LORD thy God careth for: the eyes of the LORD thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year.
13And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,
14That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil.
15And I will send grass in thy fields for thy cattle, that thou mayest eat and be full.
16Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them;
17And then the LORD's wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you.
18Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.
19And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
20And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:
21That your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers to give them, as the days of heaven upon the earth.
22For if ye shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him;
23Then will the LORD drive out all these nations from before you, and ye shall possess greater nations and mightier than yourselves.
24Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be.
25There shall no man be able to stand before you: for the LORD your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that ye shall tread upon, as he hath said unto you.
26Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
27A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:
28And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.
29And it shall come to pass, when the LORD thy God hath brought thee in unto the land whither thou goest to possess it, that thou shalt put the blessing upon mount Gerizim, and the curse upon mount Ebal.
30Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the champaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?
31For ye shall pass over Jordan to go in to possess the land which the LORD your God giveth you, and ye shall possess it, and dwell therein.
32And ye shall observe to do all the statutes and judgments which I set before you this day.
Here is WHY NO POPE or any other individual of mankind can be 'the' anti-Christ:
Here is WHY NO POPE or any other individual of mankind can be 'the' anti-Christ:
Titus 3:2
To speak evil of no man
If anyone calls the Pope or Obama or Prince Charles or any number of the myriad of people whom many so called believers try to make into THE ANTI-Christ they are without any doubt SPEAKING EVIL of that man.
The Titus scripture FORBIDS us to 'do that.'
Here is WHY NO POPE or any other individual of mankind can be 'the' anti-Christ:
Acts 10:28
And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
If anyone calls the Pope or Obama or Prince Charles or any number of the myriad of potential people who could be or are the ANTI-CHRIST, the are without ANY DOUBT calling that person UNCLEAN. God Himself PROHIBITED that activity.
Here is WHY NO POPE, Obama, Prince Charles or any number of other individuals who are supposedly 'the' Anti-Christ cannot possibly be true:
Acts 17:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
NO individual person can be 'the' Anti-Christ because ALL PEOPLE are presented by Paul to be GODS OFFSPRING. We can be fully assured that GOD is NOT the Father of the ANTI-CHRIST.
The anti-Christ is an EVIL SPIRIT. It is a POWER.
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
The SPIRIT of the ANTI-CHRIST is undoubtedly in the world.
The 'god' of this world IS SATAN. The 'god' of this WORLD is THE DEVIL.
The 'god' of this world is within the FLESH and MIND of every UNbeliever:
2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Every last one of YOU who claim and name The Name of Christ UNTO yourself have WALKED UNDER THE POWER of the ANTI-CHRIST in times past:
Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
You ALL were supposed to be RELEASED from that working. You have been DIVIDED from that working.
To FALL BACK and call ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL PERSON 'the anti-Christ' when YOU YOURSELF were walking therein only serves to show that you did not fall very far from that POWER.
enjoy!
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So?The beast is given a "mouth", or representative, who is the anti-christ.
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
The beast is given a "mouth", or representative, who is the anti-christ.
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
Please feel free to respond to the specifics in my post. I disagree with ZERO scripture.
You might pay particular attention to the 'fact' that your mouth and your mind has already been used...by the power of the prince of the air, the 'spirit' of DISOBEDIENCE....from the last line or two in the post prior, just as mine was...
MY mouth?
No, Revelation 13 says that the beast is given a mouth that blasphemes God.
Yeah, yours, mine and everyones.
We have ALL walked according to the dictates of the spirit of disobedience. That ANTI-CHRIST spirit has worked AND SPOKEN through and in ALL MANKIND except Jesus.
So, yeah. Don't be looking to far from 'home' on any of these matters. They are INTERNAL in scope and THAT is where many of these 'prophetic' statements are meant to be viewed...
Within the HEART...
Check there for the 'beast.' If you cannot 'locate' that working, then I'd suggest you may still be 'under' the POWER of same.
enjoy!
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