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Well I dont know where to start really. I beleive I came into a relationship with Jesus about four years ago when I put down my bong and picked up a Bible but havnt really progressed at all since then and its taking its toll on me. My girlfriend of about a year and a half broke up with me about eight months ago. Weve started hanging out together and sleeping together again about five months ago. In the three months we were apart I got close to another girl. Someone I used to work with. Were not dating because she has no interest in dating me and she has a boyfriend who she is sort of engaged to...and we are also sleeping together. Its not why we hang out, it just happens. But I would be lying if I said i would give her just as much attention if we werent sleeping together. I feel like such a dirt bag. I have no friends except these two women who I am sleeping with. I dont want to be alone and no one wants to date me. I dont feel like being commited to one person and holding out until marriage is for me. I dont feel like anyone would do that for me. I dont believe I will ever get married. I am 24 years old, living with my parents and working in a bar. Everyone thinks Im an underachiever and a loser. I am quiet and timid and mostly unable to socialize most of the time because of the way I grew up and just because thats the way I am. Homeschooled in elementary private school with about twenty kids in my class from jr high through high school. Meth head from about 17 to age 20. Im tired of clinging to things I know will never make me happy. Someone could quote a few Bible verses and give a few words of advice and it would help for a little while but it wouldnt change me. I am so discusted with myself sometimes. When I first accepted Jesus I felt so peaceful. I had no money, no Job, no friends. I was so happy to just read about God everyday and ponder my existence. All I wanted was more God. I dont know how I got to where I am. I try to get back to the Bible and its not the same anymore...like ive lost something. I now cling to whatever worldly pleasures I can get my hands on just to pull me through the day. Sometimes I dont even care. Im content letting my morality go down the drain a little more each day as long as I can sit in front of a videogame at the end of the day or as long as Im not completely alone its whatever. Other times, like rite now Im so depressed ad hell and lonely and feeling like a dirtbag. I just want it to go away.
Sorry this is all so scattered I just have no one to talk to. If I met anyone on these forums, you would probably be discusted with me. I just want to bite the bullet and get it out even if I come across as a selfish bastard. Im scared of the opinions of other Christians when they see me for who I am but I just need something. I need so
eone to give advice/hope directly to me. Otherwise thanks for reading my ramblings anyway.
 

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I'm really not sure how to answer to be honest. I will try and think over this in the coming days. In the meantime can I suggest finding time to volunteer somewhere. Is there a soup kitchen you can help at? Maybe get in touch with the salvation army in your country. If you need help to contact them then follow this link http://www.christianforums.com/t1199860/ there you will find links to various countries and regions. You could also try St Vincents De Paul. If you like some other charity. Most will be happy to have volunteer. This will help take the focus off yourself. I could be wrong but I think you have too much time by yourself that you need to fill in. You may meet new people and make friends this way as well. Naturally read the bible as well.

Is there a solid christian you know who might be happy to meet up with you on a regular basis. I know when I did this it made a huge difference for me and helped me to stay on track. If you don't know anyone ask your pastor. If you don't have a pastor then that could be part of the problem as we are told in the bible not to give up meeting with one another (Hebrews). So if you don't have a church find one. You probably need to visit four or so times to see if you are comfortable there.
 
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You know what's amazing? That despite being the selfish, ignorant, hateful and sinful people we are, Jesus still died for us.

You know, I've been through times in my life where I felt like this. I became a Christian, it was good for a while, but then everything just downhill. I felt like I became even more sinful than I was when I didn't know God.

It got to the point where I was ready to give up. I was sick of my sin, sick of the guilt, sick of trying to live up to God's standards. I was ready to close my eyes and free-fall into my grave. I'm not talking about suicide- I just wanted to turn away from God. Live life my own way. And suffer the consequences of an eternity without God. I felt like I wasn't worth anything better, and that I couldn't reach God anymore.

But you know what? God had loved me, chosen me, and when I was faithless, He still died for me. After reading the Bible more and more, I came to realsie that we don't choose God- He chooses us. He had chosen to die for me, and so I owed Him nothing less than my own life; to be His servant.

It wasn't instant. It wasn't easy. But through prayer and petition, God renewed my realtionship with Him. And I still struggle. But now I'm eager to know God better and better, to trust in him more and more. And each day it gets a little bit easier.

God has chosen you, not because He needs you, but because he WANTS you! How great is our God?! We turn away from Him EVEN when we know him, and yet he wont let us go!

So good on you for posting this- for reaching out! You're struggling. It's normal- terrible, but normal. But do not despair. There is every bit of hope when your hope is in God.

Listen to God and talk to Him. The Bible is God's word- Timothy says "all scripture is God-breathed". When we read the Bible we are essentially listening to God. When we pray we are talking to Him. God saved us to be in a relationship with Him- He is your father! Talk to Him! Listen to Him! Start with the gospel of Mark perhaps- remind yourself of the amazing act of love God showed us in the death of His own dear son. Go to church, talk to people about your problems. It is not good for man to be alone! (Genesis). So go to church, meet other Christians, and enjoy fellowship with them.

All the sin you are struggling with seems to be centered on the fact that your relationship with God isn't good at the moment. Renew your relationship with God, and the sin can begin to be dealt with.

I would STRONGLY RECCOMMEND this sermon by pastor Mark Driscoll:

(Sorry I can't send the link, but follow these instructions:)
Search for Mark Driscoll's Church Website in Google: "Mars Hill Church". Once on the website, in the search toolbar search for "Marriage and Men" (Part of the sermon series called 'Trial'). After you have listened to this one I would reccommend the one called "Marriage and Women." (These can also be downloaded for free on iTunes- just search for Mark Driscoll or Mars Hill Church).

This may help you begin to understand the problems you are having in your relationships with women. Listen to other sermons online!

Sorry for the essay response lol! But I felt inspired to share my story, since we seem to have experienced similar problems :). And just remember, that you may feel dirty and sinful, but God loves you just the same as the next Christian. Even if you feel you are worse than them, God sees you the same, vales and loves you just as much. God sees all sin the same. And He died for you despite this. Do not take his sacrifice lightly! God bought you at a very high price- the the life of His own son! So live for Him.

I will be praying for you.

For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. Romans 6:14

Being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus. Philipians 1:6

Trust the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your way acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3: 5-6


But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isiah 40:31

Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 2 Corinthians 4:16-17

For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." Jeremiah 29:11
 
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Welcome to the kingdom!

Open to all dirtbags and losers.

Its not open to those that are the winners, those that think 'they have it all together'
no, its open to the lost; those of us that are without hope and finding nothing good in us.

Is that you?

You see, GOD doesn't stop us, from choosing all the filthy, stupid things we choose.

Just like the prodigal son. Here is this son, a Jewish boy finding himself up to his knees in pig crap and not in his home country anymore
(remember he was living on a pig farm - not kosher!) so he was far away...

But when he came to his senses Luke 15:17 he realized that his Fathers hired hands
were better off then him.

Maybe you are finally at a stage where you have had your fill of the best the devil
can offer and have 'come to your senses' somewhat, and like the prodigal son remember
the days that once were. Once when it was just you and Father.

There are many amazing things about this story but 2 that blow me away.
First he (son) thinks, if I could just be a 'hired hand'. The rich Father is of course
our Rich FATHER (GOD) and HE has both servants and hired hands and sons.

The servants lived with the family, but the hired hands were hired as the family needed
them, and didn't live with them.

Of course the sons were the family with Father.

This prodigal son, doesn't think of being a servant - no that would be too great, only
perhaps a hired hand which would be much more than what he has now.

Lastly, when he gives up trying he starts to walk home. (thinking how he can explain
all of this, you know its hard to make stupidity look good. And thinking what will FATHER say?)

While JESUS is telling the story about FATHER seeing his boy at the distance, JESUS
says something incredible to the Jews listening to the story (some being Jewish fathers themselves). They heard JESUS tell them FATHER was running to the dirty, smelly, 'good for nothing', loser son.

Jewish fathers (patriarchs) dont run anywhere - they walk. Everything comes to them, they don't go chasing nobody! But here is this FATHER running! Luke15:20

HE is running to you!

You have done what many of us have done, we began so sweetly with JESUS and
had incredible joy and peace (all done by the SPIRIT) as we simply 'sat at HIS feet'
not worrying, just throwing everything to HIM.
Then, we got smart, and started doing the right things (or trying to do them) to
satisfy HIM (when all HE has every wanted is simply you).

Here is where we screw up:
How foolish can you be? After starting your Christian lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort? Galatians 3:3

We try to live the life, instead of recognizing HIS life in us.

So your challenge today just like the prodigal - choose.
Losers need only apply.

-eric
 
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Well I don't know where to start really. I beleive I came into a relationship with Jesus about four years ago when I put down my bong and picked up a Bible but haven't really progressed at all since then and its taking its toll on me. My girlfriend of about a year and a half broke up with me about eight months ago. Weve started hanging out together and sleeping together again about five months ago. In the three months we were apart I got close to another girl. Someone I used to work with. Were not dating because she has no interest in dating me and she has a boyfriend who she is sort of engaged to...and we are also sleeping together. Its not why we hang out, it just happens. But I would be lying if I said i would give her just as much attention if we werent sleeping together. I feel like such a dirt bag. I have no friends except these two women who I am sleeping with. I dont want to be alone and no one wants to date me. I dont feel like being commited to one person and holding out until marriage is for me. I dont feel like anyone would do that for me. I dont believe I will ever get married. I am 24 years old, living with my parents and working in a bar. Everyone thinks Im an underachiever and a loser. I am quiet and timid and mostly unable to socialize most of the time because of the way I grew up and just because thats the way I am. Homeschooled in elementary private school with about twenty kids in my class from jr high through high school. Meth head from about 17 to age 20. Im tired of clinging to things I know will never make me happy. Someone could quote a few Bible verses and give a few words of advice and it would help for a little while but it wouldnt change me. I am so discusted with myself sometimes. When I first accepted Jesus I felt so peaceful. I had no money, no Job, no friends. I was so happy to just read about God everyday and ponder my existence. All I wanted was more God. I dont know how I got to where I am. I try to get back to the Bible and its not the same anymore...like ive lost something. I now cling to whatever worldly pleasures I can get my hands on just to pull me through the day. Sometimes I dont even care. Im content letting my morality go down the drain a little more each day as long as I can sit in front of a videogame at the end of the day or as long as Im not completely alone its whatever. Other times, like rite now Im so depressed ad hell and lonely and feeling like a dirtbag. I just want it to go away.
Sorry this is all so scattered I just have no one to talk to. If I met anyone on these forums, you would probably be discusted with me. I just want to bite the bullet and get it out even if I come across as a selfish bastard. Im scared of the opinions of other Christians when they see me for who I am but I just need something. I need so
eone to give advice/hope directly to me. Otherwise thanks for reading my ramblings anyway.

Well you pointed out the real issue is with your self image and you feel you are a loser and hopeless, but you are not a loser and not hopeless. However, you do need to make some changes to your life.
The good thing is your are not giving up, you are still seeking God to be in your life and still searching for answers to why you feel this way personally. Others can say all they want, but it is up to you to create your own good image, your own life, your own dreams, and find someone to truly love your for the good in you.
What you really need to do is get out and find a Church, I know its not easy, but if you can't find a Church you can fit into, then start going to some Prayer groups (check them out first and make sure they are not way out of bounds with the word by asking around or call the members and ask them what they believe.) Now, if you are not sure of the word yourself, then you need to spend some quality time with the Bible.
This will all help you find yourself a lot easier. Why? Because first you will find your place with God and see the real changes you can make for yourself and for God to please God.

You are in a position like millions of others. Sad about their life and how it turned out, guilty about past mistakes, want some change to make it better and live a better life. It seems to some like a rut, a nightmare they cannot escape, but it is simple to do in just one day.
Change your life by getting out, no need for gas money unless you live far from town, just get out and walk around town. Go visit a Church, find some Church gatherings in the paper and go to one of them. Find new friends that are involved in the word of God. If they start to mislead you, dump them and find some more new friends. What this does is gets you in the Christian atmosphere and out of the gutter of thinking your nightmare will never end. It soon finds a smile on your face and a new mission in life. A mission dedicated to Jesus, but that is up to you. How far do you want to go with your life with Jesus, is He only going to be used a crutch or are you going to dedicate your life fully to Jesus and spread the word, do some missions, travel with the Church and even meet someone in the Church to date that has strong values that both of you can respect and she will wait till marriage (you would hope).

Now as defeating the lust thing. It is called will power and focus. Lust is often used as a tool to subside the loneliness. This is what gets people into trouble every time they get lonely is they go out looking for a quick night with someone else, but end up feeling lonely in the end still the next day. The quick fix is not the cure. Procreation is meant for making children, not to be used as a toy or as a quick fix for loneliness. A sin does not cure the broken heart, and finding a mate for a night doesn't create love. To love someone comes from the heart, it has nothing to do with touch. There is no such thing as making love as the English lingo goes, Love comes from the heart, lust comes from the gut. Next time you get that feeling, realize what part of your body it is coming from.

Find some new hobbies, things that involve doing exercise with other Christians or at least involves being around other Christians. The problem today is Christians want to always mingle with the wrong crowds, this only gets them into trouble and leads them into temptation and away from God. How far do you want to make this change? That is up to you. You can stay in the gutter of nightmares and loneliness or you can do something for yourself and God and make yourself happy in the process. If you have a dream of some sort of job, then find a Christian college and research it and or find if you can learn it online for free.

Right now you risk two things. Your health and your soul (life). By playing around with those women you endanger your health, you are taking sin and using it as a tool and these are what God wants us to avoid. For a good reason too. Live healthy, live longer. Live for God and find Life everlasting. It is far from boring, you can ask many who have dedicated their lives to God if their life is ever boring. It is far from ever being boring. In fact, you may find yourself traveling the world just teaching the word and seeing the most amazing places besides. Now of all the single men I have know that did missionary work or at least joined the Christian Crusaders for Christ all found wives that were good Christian women and they are still extremely happy. People complain about being lonely but look in all the wrong places, it just takes getting yourself out there and getting into the right atmosphere to find the person to spend your life with.

I would personally change my job. A bar life is not exactly the place to work on being a Christian or trying to change your life. It is the worst gutter to ever be in. Second, never expect anything from God until you do something for God first. Then God will make you happy.
Never give up, never surrender. This is your life, your choice, your future awaits. What will it be?

God Bless
 
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You know it's not too late to pick back up a Bible again and read a bit.

Start small and read bits here and there. Try to apply what you learn, and let the Bible point you towards Jesus. Pray about what you read, and ask God to point your life where He wants it to go.

Proverbs is good and has alot to say about some of the stuff you're involved in.
 
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Dear JistJoe. You had some good replies, here is one more, and I say this with love. Jesus told a Lawyer in Matthews, chapter 22, verses 35-40, " the great Commandment in the Law is: Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. The second Commandment is like it: love thy neighbour as thyself." That is not hard, remember God made us in His image, we alone can think and reason, and we know the difference between Good, and NOT Good. As for loving others as we love ourselves, try treating all you know and meet as you would like to be treated. With kindness and a smile, you will find that many men, or women, will smile back and soon you will start talking to each other, it might even start with the weather. Listen and respond kindly, then feel Your way, JistJoe. Keep being kind and helpful, there are many people who are lonely and happy to have someone to talk to. Do this for a few days, always remembering to be kind and not forgetting to smile on occasions. You will soon find that there are many times where your interest is engaged, might it even be very slightly. But it is a beginning and if you ask Jesus He will give you His Love, His Joy and His Peace to share with others. You will never know, until you really try, and who knows? perhaps you meet somebody special? Ask Jesus, He will not force you, let Him lead you. I say this humbly and kindly, JistJoe. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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Dear JistJoe. You had some good replies, here is one more, and I say this with love. Jesus told a Lawyer in Matthews, chapter 22, verses 35-40, " the great Commandment in the Law is: Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. The second Commandment is like it: love thy neighbour as thyself." That is not hard, remember God made us in His image, we alone can think and reason, and we know the difference between Good, and NOT Good. As for loving others as we love ourselves, try treating all you know and meet as you would like to be treated. With kindness and a smile, you will find that many men, or women, will smile back and soon you will start talking to each other, it might even start with the weather. Listen and respond kindly, then feel Your way, JistJoe. Keep being kind and helpful, there are many people who are lonely and happy to have someone to talk to. Do this for a few days, always remembering to be kind and not forgetting to smile on occasions. You will soon find that there are many times where your interest is engaged, might it even be very slightly. But it is a beginning and if you ask Jesus He will give you His Love, His Joy and His Peace to share with others. You will never know, until you really try, and who knows? perhaps you meet somebody special? Ask Jesus, He will not force you, let Him lead you. I say this humbly and kindly, JistJoe. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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Dear JistJoe. You had some good replies, here is one more, and I say this with love. Jesus told a Lawyer in Matthews, chapter 22, verses 35-40, " the great Commandment in the Law is: Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. The second Commandment is like it: love thy neighbour as thyself." That is not hard, remember God made us in His image, we alone can think and reason, and we know the difference between Good, and NOT Good. As for loving others as we love ourselves, try treating all you know and meet as you would like to be treated. With kindness and a smile, you will find that many men, or women, will smile back and soon you will start talking to each other, it might even start with the weather. Listen and respond kindly, then feel Your way, JistJoe. Keep being kind and helpful, there are many people who are lonely and happy to have someone to talk to. Do this for a few days, always remembering to be kind and not forgetting to smile on occasions. You will soon find that there are many times where your interest is engaged, might it even be very slightly. But it is a beginning and if you ask Jesus He will give you His Love, His Joy and His Peace to share with others. You will never know, until you really try, and who knows? perhaps you meet somebody special? Ask Jesus, He will not force you, let Him lead you. I say this humbly and kindly, JistJoe. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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Dear JistJoe. You had some good replies, here is one more, and I say this with love. Jesus told a Lawyer in Matthews, chapter 22, verses 35-40, " the great Commandment in the Law is: Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. The second Commandment is like it: love thy neighbour as thyself." That is not hard, remember God made us in His image, we alone can think and reason, and we know the difference between Good, and NOT Good. As for loving others as we love ourselves, try treating all you know and meet as you would like to be treated. With kindness and a smile, you will find that many men, or women, will smile back and soon you will start talking to each other, it might even start with the weather. Listen and respond kindly, then feel Your way, JistJoe. Keep being kind and helpful, there are many people who are lonely and happy to have someone to talk to. Do this for a few days, always remembering to be kind and not forgetting to smile on occasions. You will soon find that there are many times where your interest is engaged, might it even be very slightly. But it is a beginning and if you ask Jesus He will give you His Love, His Joy and His Peace to share with others. You will never know, until you really try, and who knows? perhaps you meet somebody special? Ask Jesus, He will not force you, let Him lead you. I say this humbly and kindly, JistJoe. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.
 
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Hey JistJoe

Nobody's perfect - all of us need the Lord to help us along the way. You know, the Bible says that Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. That means you'll get there - because the Lord won't quit on you. It takes a lot of guts to admit the details of one's struggles publicly - and surely the Lord will bless you for that. Please feel free to PM me if you want to chat - my PM box is always open. :)

Kind regards
Andre

Well I dont know where to start really. I beleive I came into a relationship with Jesus about four years ago when I put down my bong and picked up a Bible but havnt really progressed at all since then and its taking its toll on me. My girlfriend of about a year and a half broke up with me about eight months ago. Weve started hanging out together and sleeping together again about five months ago. In the three months we were apart I got close to another girl. Someone I used to work with. Were not dating because she has no interest in dating me and she has a boyfriend who she is sort of engaged to...and we are also sleeping together. Its not why we hang out, it just happens. But I would be lying if I said i would give her just as much attention if we werent sleeping together. I feel like such a dirt bag. I have no friends except these two women who I am sleeping with. I dont want to be alone and no one wants to date me. I dont feel like being commited to one person and holding out until marriage is for me. I dont feel like anyone would do that for me. I dont believe I will ever get married. I am 24 years old, living with my parents and working in a bar. Everyone thinks Im an underachiever and a loser. I am quiet and timid and mostly unable to socialize most of the time because of the way I grew up and just because thats the way I am. Homeschooled in elementary private school with about twenty kids in my class from jr high through high school. Meth head from about 17 to age 20. Im tired of clinging to things I know will never make me happy. Someone could quote a few Bible verses and give a few words of advice and it would help for a little while but it wouldnt change me. I am so discusted with myself sometimes. When I first accepted Jesus I felt so peaceful. I had no money, no Job, no friends. I was so happy to just read about God everyday and ponder my existence. All I wanted was more God. I dont know how I got to where I am. I try to get back to the Bible and its not the same anymore...like ive lost something. I now cling to whatever worldly pleasures I can get my hands on just to pull me through the day. Sometimes I dont even care. Im content letting my morality go down the drain a little more each day as long as I can sit in front of a videogame at the end of the day or as long as Im not completely alone its whatever. Other times, like rite now Im so depressed ad hell and lonely and feeling like a dirtbag. I just want it to go away.
Sorry this is all so scattered I just have no one to talk to. If I met anyone on these forums, you would probably be discusted with me. I just want to bite the bullet and get it out even if I come across as a selfish bastard. Im scared of the opinions of other Christians when they see me for who I am but I just need something. I need so
eone to give advice/hope directly to me. Otherwise thanks for reading my ramblings anyway.
 
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