Vegetarianism and Seventh Day Adventism.

[catlover]

I am under the impression that in order to fully be a Seventh Day Adventist one needs to be a vegetarian. Is this the case or am I wrong?

 

[Eve4000]

Nah, u don't have to be a vegetarian. It's a part of the Health message and it's healthier and better if you do, but it's not required.

 

[PaleHorse]

I am under the impression that in order to fully be a Seventh Day Adventist one needs to be a vegetarian. Is this the case or am I wrong?

This is a very good question and one that is often misunderstood. Hopefully I can answer it clearly:

The short answer is no, you do not have to be a vegetarian to be fully a SDA. Our yardstick is the same as we find in the scriptures where clean vs. unclean meats are talked about. Surprizingly, there are SDAs out there that eat meat, but they will limit themselves to the clean ones such as beef, chicken, many kinds of fish, etc.
While it is true that most SDAs are vegetarian (or even the more extreme vegans and rawists) it is not a requirement for baptism.

Does that help answer the question? If not please let me know.

 

[catlover]

Thank-you, Pale and Eve.Yes, Pale it does help.

 

[PaleHorse]

Thank-you, Pale and Eve.Yes, Pale it does help.

Glad we could help, catlover.

Another facet are the dietary items that are not ever on the menu;

• pork
• bottom-feeding types of fish (like catfish & carp)
• shrimp & lobster (they are bottom feeders plus they are shell fish, which rule out oysters and clams as well)
• no reptiles of any kind
• no scavengers of any kind (vultures, hyenas, etc)

Drinks or foods that contain caffine are always off limits for caffine is a drug (a form of speed); so coffee is off the menu, most kinds of soda, and some kinds of tea. Some Adventists drink decaf coffee but even that contains a small amount of caffine, so we have coffee alternative drinks that kinda, sorta taste like coffee (but not really, yuck!).

Here are some foods that we, generally speaking, avoid that one wouldn't normally consider:

• marshmellows (they contain gelatin which is made from swine)
• Jello (for the same reason as marshmellows)
• McDonald's french fries (they are cooked in beef tallow)

The list goes on and I'm sure other SDA members can include a much more detailed list that what I have here.

Many SDAs avoid any kind of milk products (usually the vegans and rawists) for a laundry-list of health-related reasons. The more I read on the milk topic the more I am inclined to join them.

 

[Eve4000]

well, thank u for explaining it better than me

 

[Starr SDA Living Word]

Praise God For Our Diet!!!

 

[smooze]

praise God for dying for our sins.

 

[Starr SDA Living Word]

God Bless and Happy Sabbath.

 

[HoneyDew]

Now what about duck and goose? Jews eat them, but SDAs do not. Why not?

 

[happywiththelord]

Duck and Geese are clean birds. so if an sda choose to, they could eat that.

 

[StormyOne]

I am under the impression that in order to fully be a Seventh Day Adventist one needs to be a vegetarian. Is this the case or am I wrong?

Yeah, that would be a misconception.... you don't have to be a vegetarian though many are.... and some are vegan.... and some are non veggie.... some even drink coca cola and coffee... but I have digressed....

 

[happywiththelord]

yeah, you are right, some do drink coffee and drink caffienated beverages. they should be ashamed of themselves. they are not living up to the light they know and is giving mix signals to everyone about what adventists are and do.

 

[StormyOne]

yeah, you are right, some do drink coffee and drink caffienated beverages. they should be ashamed of themselves. they are not living up to the light they know and is giving mix signals to everyone about what adventists are and do.

Well I am not going to say all of that, I was merely acknowledging that it is done.... shame that's for someone else to deal with...

 

[statrei]

Duck and Geese are clean birds. so if an sda choose to, they could eat that.

Duck and geese are waterfowl. Waterfowl are not included in the clean category of animals.

 

[happywiththelord]

can you show me where you get that please?!

 

[HoneyDew]

Duck and geese are waterfowl. Waterfowl are not included in the clean category of animals.

I use the NKJV and see no mention of waterfowl. I see stork and heron. Are you saying that ducks and geese are in the same family as stork and heron? And how are they?

 

[statrei]

can you show me where you get that please?!

Waterfowl move in the waters. Lev. 11:10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

Then in v. 18 it mentions two types of waterfowl; swan and pelican.


Not that it matters, since these are prudent laws of health. It is just as bad to eat lots of cheese as it is to eat these unclean animals.

 

[HoneyDew]

yeah, you are right, some do drink coffee and drink caffienated beverages. they should be ashamed of themselves. they are not living up to the light they know and is giving mix signals to everyone about what adventists are and do.

But even though caffeine might not be an optimal addition to the diet, where is it decreed that to be an Adventist, one must not do this and must do that? Going off topic here, I know, but for instance have you seen the sodium content in one of our veggie meat cans? LOL
I think that holding on for dear life to an issue as this, which does nothing for salvation, is what others will more likely remark upon.
Right about now there are some Adventists making plans to catch a movie tonight. In the cinema. And they would be surprised to hear that they should be ashamed.

 

[happywiththelord]

first of all, in Lev 11; 10, it is talking about all the animals that live in the water that dont have fins and scales. NOT BIRDS. The birds start in verse 13. and in verse 18 that you mentioned, it doesnt talk about swans and pelicans, it talks about the white owl, the jackdaw, and the carrion vulture.

primarly, the birds that are unclean are predominatly the scavengers.

I understand what you are saying about the veggie meat and cheese. i totally agree.