Vaccination Side Effects?

[Tini]

No Wic can't "make" you do anything, however here they can refuse to give it to you.

Manna thanks for the prayers !! Alaskamolly thanks for the info. Jen thanks for listing the side effects you had as an infant as well. That's truly what I'm looking for...personal experiences regarding side effects to vaccines and prayers are always wonderful .

I definitely want to keep this on topic (side effects experienced) as this is one of those topics that if it goes off track I fear will lead to debates

If you'd like you can PMme and Ill pass on our friend's in South Africa who had problems with their second child - almost lost her. They are noton CF - but have email.

 

[Busybee]

Well, my husband had just been scanning through this book full of useless trivia...and so shared with our Doc that according to last year's records, more people die each year from Coke machines falling on their heads than die from chicken pox!

Kinda puts it all in perspective...

LOOOOOOOL! I've never been vaccinated against chicken pox. Have been exposed to it in order to get it and never got it. My brother is the same way so I'm going to assume we have an immunity to it. Lord help me if I get it at ummm hmmmm, let's see how old do I want to be today... 21 ...no peeking at my age thing over to the left either.

Oh yea, someone must've been doing some mega praying out there because this child has been asleep for something like 3 hours and woke once to eat after 6hrs last night. So thank you thank you, and God bless. Oh yes, I shall suffer the wrath tonight, but I'll be ready because I've been able to sit and relax for a little bit.

 

[murron]

I'm a nurse...work in pediatrics. I've administered vaccinations to literally hundreds of children. Out of those hundreds of children, I never once had a child that had an adverse reaction (which is not the same as a side effect - fever, headache, pain at injection site).

I'm also a parent. I opted to not have my children immunized as infants. I also opted to not allow them to receive Varivax and MMR at the same time. These are both live attenuated viruses (they are not dead viruses, in other words). Ditto with the OPV (which isn't even used anymore), OPV was also a live attenuated virus.

In the states, vaccinations are required to attend school, unless you have a medical/religious exemption...but, that's misleading. If there is an outbreak at the school your child attends, and your child has not been immunized, they will be barred from returning to school for a minumum of 3 weeks and a note from their pediatrician verifying the child did not contract whatever illness was involved in the outbreak. If you are not a Christian Scientist and you claim religious reasons for not vaccinating your child - you may expect to have problems if DFS/children's services are ever notified. Simply not wanting them or considering them unsafe isn't considered a viable reason to refuse to immunize your child. Your religion must sincerely teach that medical measures such as immunizations contradict their (the church's) teachings in order to claim exemption for religious reasons.

 

[HeatherJay]

Good info, murron. Thanks for posting that.

I've had both of my girls immunized and never had anything horrible happen...only small things like fever, soreness, irritability...and once my 3 year old broke out in a rash a few days after recieving a vaccine (can't remember which one).

My husband has always voiced his opinion that he thinks that a lot of the vaccines are unnecessary (like the chicken pox vaccine). I agree for the most part. I mean, whoever heard of chicken pox being life threatening (except in very rare cases)?? But, we've always gone ahead and gotten our girls vaccinated anyway, just to avoid the hassle we'd get from their school and things like that.

 

[murron]

Good info, murron. Thanks for posting that.

I've had both of my girls immunized and never had anything horrible happen...only small things like fever, soreness, irritability...and once my 3 year old broke out in a rash a few days after recieving a vaccine (can't remember which one).

My husband has always voiced his opinion that he thinks that a lot of the vaccines are unnecessary (like the chicken pox vaccine). I agree for the most part. I mean, whoever heard of chicken pox being life threatening (except in very rare cases)?? But, we've always gone ahead and gotten our girls vaccinated anyway, just to avoid the hassle we'd get from their school and things like that.

Personally, I don't agree with Varivax (chicken pox vaccine); mainly because both of my other kids had chicken pox, on their first birthdays and they were just fine. Chicken pox is rarely a disabling, let alone fatal, illness. And, I don't particularly like having a relatively new vaccine become mandatory so quickly - look what happened with the Rotovirus vaccine a few years back. I will hold off on Varivax until the last possible moment before school starts ...and if the opportunity arises that I can expose my youngest to the virus, naturally, before school starts for him - I will. Then he won't have to get the Varivax.

I do encourage vaccines, even if parents wait until the children are older - with the exception of the DTaP/Hib. My older children were over 10 when they got Hep B vaccinations. Polio is pretty rare, because of the vaccination program. But, DTaP/Hib is really important for young children who go to daycare, spend a lot of time outside, or around strangers (shopping malls, restaurants, etc).

A comment was also made about a concern regarding mercury in childhood vaccinations. Currently, there are no vaccinations in the required childhood immunizations that have mercury in them (USA at least, I don't know about other countries, but I would suspect it's much the same). Those at risk for the mercury issue are those who were immunized up to approx 2001. This change is per the World Health Organization, based on findings in 1999. click here

 

[andiesmama]

We went through all the immunizations with Andie, right on schedule, and I would just give her some Tylenol before the appointment....that I guess helped because the most she ever got was a little soreness once or twice at the site of the shot, maybe a little fussy once or twice when she was younger, but the later shots, I never noticed a difference!!

 

[AmposGirl]

Yeah, My daughter also had NO problems. Except a small fever once or twice, but nothing that never stopped me from getting her vaccinated. She cried a few times while they were going in, but Its nothing that I couldn't handle as a parent. I am not speaking directly to BusyBee (the OP) in this situation. Only to everyone else reading this. She alredy knows my feelings on the shots, so I won't go into that. LOOOOOL I think its wonderful to be able to keep my child from possibly getting a life threatning illness. I believe that God will take care of her, BUT I want to "help" Him take care of her. So, that is one way I help. Thats just my feelings.

 

[alaskamolly]

This is a good link re. some Medical Concerns with the new Varicella Vaccine (Chicken Pox), documentation cited:

http://www.cogforlife.org/chickenpox.htm



This is an interesting (confirmed, documented) link re. the fact that some vaccinations (chickenpox included) are actually made from the tissue of aborted babies, and that DNA is being injected into everyone who gets the shot.

...Seemed a little hokey, to me, when I first heard this a year or two ago--you know, another nutty claim--but I did my research and it is true (which included asking my relative in the medical field who works with the CDC). This link gives specific proofs, documentation, etc., which is why I chose it instead of many others.

http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm


Warm Regards,
Molly

 

[murron]

This is a good link re. some Medical Concerns with the new Varicella Vaccine (Chicken Pox), documentation cited:

http://www.cogforlife.org/chickenpox.htm



This is an interesting (confirmed, documented) link re. the fact that some vaccinations (chickenpox included) are actually made from the tissue of aborted babies, and that DNA is being injected into everyone who gets the shot.

...Seemed a little hokey, to me, when I first heard this a year or two ago--you know, another nutty claim--but I did my research and it is true (which included asking my relative in the medical field who works with the CDC). This link gives specific proofs, documentation, etc., which is why I chose it instead of many others.

http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm


Warm Regards,
Molly

I debated over responding to this thread and decided I really needed to. The information contained in the links you provided is misleading.
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/gen/humancell.htm

 

[alaskamolly]

Well, we may have to agree to disagree (which is fine!). *grin*


The CDC themselves support most of the claims made in the other link. They admit that fetal cell lines from aborted babies were used to manufacture some vaccines. While it is true that no "new" fetal lines are being used, the vaccines we recieve may still have the DNA from the original fetal cell lines--as the varicella vaccine does, for example. The reason no "new" fetal cell lines are used is simply because they're not needed--they already got what they wanted out of it.


In your link, the CDC also admits that no vaccine is perfect and that no vaccine will guarantee anything--even going so far as to say that a vaccine will possibly provide zero protection for your child.

The "herd immunity" is probably their best argument...but I just worry sometimes--the protection of the whole thanks to the sacrifice of some...?
...and the lack of evidence that vaccines are safe, in the short-term AND the long-term.

I realize that vaccines help bring down the incidence of dangerous diseases, but... at what cost? So we don't die of diptheria as an infant, but do we then have an increased likelihood of asthma and allergies (as some say have increased at an amazing proportion exactly to the increase in vaccinations), and then dealing with auto-immune disorders later in life, etc... ? There isn't anywhere we can go to find out--no clinical studies on such things exist.


Again, this is SUCH a complicated issue and I respect your right to disagree. It is really hard to know who's telling the truth, who's full of it, who's half-way true, etc... What a confusing jumble!!!!! I know for myself, I simply don't know. I look at all the "facts" and weigh all the "evidences" and I am still at a place where I just don't know what is the best thing to do for my children.

...So whatever decision a parent makes, I'm sure we can all say we are choosing what we think is best for our children. And with an issue like this, the decision-making process is not necessarily "easy."

Warm Regards,
Molly