using one another/contraception

[patricius79]

why is it suddenly okay in our times for Christians to use one another for sex without a full gift of self?

if a man cannot wait until the right time to be with his wife--whether to achieve or avoid pregnancy--then how can he claim to have self control?

 

[Paradoxum]

If one can't save for a house without getting a loan, how can one claim to have self-control?

Forgive me if that turns out to be a terrible analogy XD

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

why is it suddenly okay in our times for Christians to use one another for sex without a full gift of self?

if a man cannot wait until the right time to be with his wife--whether to achieve or avoid pregnancy--then how can he claim to have self control?

Thats simple, they just do not share your definition of the right time.
You know, the definition that was drawn up for ancient goat herders back when women were property that would drop in value if 'defiled' so couldnt be sold at as high a price at the wedding.

 

[Cabal]

why is it suddenly okay in our times for Christians to use one another for sex without a full gift of self?

if a man cannot wait until the right time to be with his wife--whether to achieve or avoid pregnancy--then how can he claim to have self control?

Separation of sex from procreation.

No reason why they had to be joined at the hip (oo-er).

 

[DaisyDay]

The rhythm method is one of the least effective means of avoiding pregnancy.

Besides, it hasn't been "suddenly" unless you mean 50 years ago when safe and reliable birth control became widely available to women (in most states - it was illegal for a while in some).

Are you really condemning marital sex for pleasure and intimacy? Even the Catholic Church gave in on that point.

 

[GryffinSong]

Sex is a bonding activity as well as a way to produce children. The feelings between a couple grow stronger and therefore they have a better chance of staying together to raise the children. That's what I'd say to a conservative. To anyone else, I'd say that what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is none of our business.

 

[blarg the 2nd]

why is it suddenly okay in our times for Christians to use one another for sex without a full gift of self?

if a man cannot wait until the right time to be with his wife--whether to achieve or avoid pregnancy--then how can he claim to have self control?

self controll is for geitng what you want and avoding what you dont by taking short term and lesser losses

if birth controll is not hamring you and working for you have sex if you want it.

or you could show some slf contoll and not conplain online about other pepole when you want to do so

 

[Daniel25]

Thats simple, they just do not share your definition of the right time.
You know, the definition that was drawn up for ancient goat herders back when women were property that would drop in value if 'defiled' so couldnt be sold at as high a price at the wedding.

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Are you really condemning marital sex for pleasure and intimacy? Even the Catholic Church gave in on that point.

martial relationships must be open to the possiblity of fecundity.

 

[blarg the 2nd]

no they do not else you would not be concerned baout it

 

[leftrightleftrightleft]

Lack of healthy and regular sex in a marriage is one of the biggest problems in marriage.

If you're saying that people shouldn't have sex even in MARRIAGE, prepare to see the rates of adultery and divorce sky rocket.

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

I'm so glad I can post video now!




martial relationships must be open to the possiblity of fecundity.

Yes í'm sure the truth hurts and you have to lash out. Don't worry I wont report you this time. But in the future be alittle more respectful.

 

[patricius79]

If one can't save for a house without getting a loan, how can one claim to have self-control?

I don't see the comparison

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

I don't see the comparison

If I understand it right..
The idea is that if you do not have the self-control to stop yourself from spending the money you are trying to safe.
Why should a bank think that you have the self-control to pay back the loan?

 

[blarg the 2nd]

so why is sex wiht birth controll bad?

 

[Exiledoomsayer]

so why is sex wiht birth controll bad?

Isnt there some story in the bible about a guy who pulled out, spilled his seed and was struck dead?

 

[blarg the 2nd]

wasent that becase he had a culturel obligation to knock up his dead brothers wife and pretend the kids werr his brothers kids

and he screwed her then pulld out to try and avoid it

 

[blarg the 2nd]

not sure what made the traditin right i thouhgt htos epepeole bleverd god could make pepole so its not for necsary reproduction

 

[Daniel25]

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[blarg the 2nd]

by god i thinck he has discoverd the any key

 

[JustMeSee]

I am all for delayed gratification, but sometimes the moment is right during ovulation. That is one reason why people use birth control to avoid unplanned pregnancies.

I do not subscribe to the belief that contraception is bad. It is not guaranteed to work ever time, but it has a significantly higher success rate than unprotected sex.