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"US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists"

Skaloop

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Do most abstinate people spread AIDs? Do most abstinate people break up marriages? Do most abstinate people seek sexual favors from those around them?

No.
No.
No.
-And those statements would still be true if you replaced abstinate with heterosexual or homosexual-

Does homosexuality promote abstinence?

No, but neither does heterosexuality, or any sexuality for that matter (except maybe asexuality).

Can homosexuality undermine the value of marriage? Can homosexuality lessen the purpose for family? Can homosexuality destroy the value of church worship? Is murder the only thing that can be called bad or evil?

No.
No.
No.
No.
 
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Ai yi yi. I hadn't meant to log back in, but I really feel like someone should have cited this by now.

http://www.psych.org/news_room/press_releases/adoption_coparenting121802.pdf

From the American Psychiatric Association, 2002.

"Research over the last 30 years has consistently demonstrated that children raised by gay or lesbian parents exhibit the same level of emotional, cognitive, social and sexual functioning as children raised by heterosexual parents. The research also indicates that optimal development for children is not based on the sexual orientation of the parents, but on stable attachments to committed and nurturing adults."

There you go. 30 years of research by the professionals.
 
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The difference is that the people of Sodom, etc., didn't care. They didn't see anything they did as something to be ashamed of or sorry for. That is what is happening today. Homosexuals are being encouraged to believe that their actions are nothing to be ashamed of. In fact they should be celebrated, promoted and embraced according to a growing group of people. I can assume that you do not believe in the FLOOD, the rapture, Armageddon, or the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT.
But Canada allows gay marriage and believe it or not, they seem to be doing just fine. I think we'd notice if the Apocalypse happened up north (especially those of us in Michigan, we have more in common with Canadians than with those in the southern states).
 
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Those professionals are all part of the "gay agenda" tho... Don't you see!!!! ;)

Seriously, though, I have heard some criticisms of the research the APA based its statement on. Generally it had to do with problems involving self-selection and the skewing of the samples towards two-mother over two-father families.

I still doubt that having homosexual parents is harmful to children, but I don't consider the research settled yet.
 
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Seriously, though, I have heard some criticisms of the research the APA based its statement on. Generally it had to do with problems involving self-selection and the skewing of the samples towards two-mother over two-father families.

I still doubt that having homosexual parents is harmful to children, but I don't consider the research settled yet.
I agree the research is far from completely satisfying, but considering the general attitude toward homosexuality, is it any wonder the research is lacking? I like to think that the research that HAS been done speaks atleast some truth tho..
 
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But Canada allows gay marriage and believe it or not, they seem to be doing just fine. I think we'd notice if the Apocalypse happened up north (especially those of us in Michigan, we have more in common with Canadians than with those in the southern states).

In fact, our dollar has gotten much better since the bill was passed to allow gay marriage. Besides that, I live in British Columbia, which has not only the greatest proportion of gay marriages in the country, but also has the highest rate of atheists (more than either Protestants or Catholics). If anyone was due for anything, it's us. And yet, here I am.
 
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Little Nipper>>

you've failed to address one of my questions; how did Abraham make an informed judgement about the virtue of the people of Sodom and Gamorrah? Did he interview every individual? If so, how many people did he interview (the whole city?)? In what manner did he conduct this investigation? Deductively or inductively? What were the criteria used to base the overall 'evilness' of the city?

and, why did he need abraham to conduct this investigation? Wouldn't God already know if there were ten good souls in the city if Hes omniscient?
 
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Are drunks all "bad" people. Is getting drunk something to promote? Should we allow drunks to abopt? How about smokers? Should we actively seek out smokers to adopt children? Are smokers "bad" people? Is smoking bad? I believe homosexuality is a progressive habit. Habits are hard to break and can lead to other vices
There is a lot of research done upon homosexuals to study their cases.
The least possible claim is that homosexuality is a HABIT.

They're studying hormonal changes and, believe it or not, the answer could be lying in the DNA and homosexuality could be inherited.
Scientists are still looking for answers in that field.
 
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"Several studies also have shown that homosexuality tends to run in families. The probability that the brother of a gay man is gay is about four times higher than normal. Similarly, the odds that the sister of a lesbian is also a lesbian is significantly higher than normal. However, male homosexuality and lesbianism tend to run in different families: sisters with gay brothers are not more likely than normal to be lesbian. A 1993 study that traced the pedigree of pairs of gay brothers found that homosexuality tends to run on the maternal side of the family tree: the brothers had a higher than average number of maternal nephews and uncles who are gay. "
http://news-service.stanford.edu/pr/95/950310Arc5328.html

The above is just from a random google search. I can speak of this from personal experience. I have an adopted brother that is gay. My twin brother and I are not nor is anyone else in our immediate family. All of them are Catholic (except me) and all of them are straight (except my adopted brother).

My brother found his biological family a couple of years ago. He has a brother and an uncle that are gay. I don't see how that can be a coincidence. He never had contact with his bio family. He came to us as a baby.
 
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If God had wanted it any other way, he wouldn't have made people with free will in the first place.
Which means that we must use other criterion than "what God would have wanted" to judge actions. And there are simply no valid criteria on which to state that homosexuality is morally bad.
 
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God bless him.
First time I agree with him in something. Well, I support same sex unions too. So add two.

Sadly, in foreign policy he still is a moron.


Really, you have to be kidding me.

Carter was not only honest, but our most intelligent president.

He didn't get anything done because he was too honest to make compromises.
 
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Maybe Carter has a different definition of creationists than you do.

Heh. Yeah... The definition of creationism that says "evolution is an accurate model for the biological diversification of species from an ancient common ancestor"

What were we thinking..? By that definition, of course he's a creationist :doh:
 
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