• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

  • The rule regarding AI content has been updated. The rule now rules as follows:

    Be sure to credit AI when copying and pasting AI sources. Link to the site of the AI search, just like linking to an article.

Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite. Gone.

Greatcloud

Senior Member
May 3, 2007
2,814
271
Oregon coast
✟63,000.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Republican
RE-ENTRY CONFIRMED. The Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite, launched from the shuttle Discovery in 1991 to begin a new era of studying the Earth’s environment from space, has fallen from orbit.

I guess the enviroment and AGW as far as the upper atmosphere is concerned won't be studied as much as far as NASA knows. From watts web site:http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/24/uars-is-down-but-nasa-doesnt-know-where/#more-48079

onion2 says:
September 24, 2011 at 2:16 am
Typical NASA! If they can’t find a satellite what hope have they got of predicting global warming!
Maybe Al Gore was sitting on the satellite and his mass caused it to plummet to Earth. LOL




:bow: ^_^ CO2
 
Last edited:

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,856,435
52,722
Guam
✟5,182,747.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
I guess the enviroment and AGW as far as the upper atmosphere is concerned won't be studied as much as far as NASA knows.
Meh -- they'll still find some way to scare us.
 
Upvote 0

Greatcloud

Senior Member
May 3, 2007
2,814
271
Oregon coast
✟63,000.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Charismatic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Republican
Meh -- they'll still find some way to scare us.

Thats right my friend or as Alfred E. Newmen would say. "What me worry ?" LOL. Its not as bad as they say though we know that they are just full of exagerations.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AV1611VET
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,856,435
52,722
Guam
✟5,182,747.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Upvote 0

thaumaturgy

Well-Known Member
Nov 17, 2006
7,541
882
✟12,333.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
You two just need a couple others and you can have a "circle"!

But since I know that "facts" don't really matter to you guys I'll point out:

1. The original satellite was in orbit since 1991. If functioned until 2005, making it a 14 year program.

2. It collected a great deal of data which, if you want to actively ignore science, whatever you do do NOT click on this NASA LINK because then you'd see what all it did.

3. The satellite was the size of a BUS but presumably you Einsteins aren't necessarily familiar with what happens when a satellite re-enters the atmosphere. If you did happen to switch over from CBN some evening on the news you might have seen what happened with the Space Shuttle Columbia when some of the heat resistant tiles failed. But again, we don't expect you guys to follow actual news especially when it has to do with science.

4. The largest individual pieces NASA expected to come raining down were about about 26 individual pieces, the largest of which was probably about 300lb. If you, again, care about facts you might like to see what NASA itself says about the difficulty in predicting exactly where a satellite will crash down. But again, please do not read the following as it contains information that might speak against your clearly defined prejudices.

You want to rebuke NASA? Be my guest, but at least they know what the facts are:

While the probe was being tracked by radar stations and experts around the world, the tracking of the satellite remained difficult because of its shape, size and speed, according to Flight Lieutenant Mike Farrington, who had been monitoring the 35ft long satellite since its launch.

"There are random forces of nature acting on the satellite that we can neither control nor predict," NASA spokeswoman Beth Dickey said Friday evening. "Very small changes have very large consequences over time, and in this case, the change has been in the orientation of the spacecraft."
(SOURCE)

What's really ironic is that agw "skeptoids" like to talk non-stop about natural forcings and factors but when some actually come into play suddenly they don't mean anything!

Wow.
 
Upvote 0

Split Rock

Conflation of Blathers
Nov 3, 2003
17,607
730
North Dakota
✟22,466.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
Thats right my friend or as Alfred E. Newmen would say. "What me worry ?" LOL. Its not as bad as they say though we know that they are just full of exagerations.

Yeah, you guys all "know" so much more than everyone else.. even experts in their own field. Yet another example of "I'm not an expert, BUT........" BTW: thaumaturgy just pwned you both BIG TIME! ^_^
 
Upvote 0

Self Improvement

Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2004
1,676
74
Minneapolis, MN
✟2,258.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Perhaps Thaumaturgy would like to highlight in red anything we said that was wrong?
There wouldn't be enough ink in the world to highlight everything you have said wrong in your illustrious career here at CF.
 
Upvote 0

Self Improvement

Well-Known Member
Jun 24, 2004
1,676
74
Minneapolis, MN
✟2,258.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Dang >__< Yeah it was, not sure if it still is I don't know. I do know that some of the people I talk to on another forum were volunteering to fight it :D
Well, I just thought he topic of Texas having the hottest summer of any state in recorded history would be interesting to bring up since the OP wanted to bring up global warming.
 
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,856,435
52,722
Guam
✟5,182,747.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
There wouldn't be enough ink in the world to highlight everything you have said wrong in your illustrious career here at CF.
Fair enough -- but until something we said wrong here is highlighted... :wave:
 
Upvote 0

thaumaturgy

Well-Known Member
Nov 17, 2006
7,541
882
✟12,333.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
Fair enough -- but until something we said wrong here is highlighted... :wave:

Don't play the fool, AV. YOu know better. You and Greatcloud wanted to use something NASA didn't exactly know every jot and tittle of to call into question what NASA tells you about global climate change.

THAT was what was wrong. AND, of course, you know that.

You guys were too busy laughing at NASA to realize that what you were laughing at (or found to be weird) was anything but funny or weird or difficult to understand.

Don't play word games with me, AV, and don't play the "equivocation" game. Just don't.
 
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,856,435
52,722
Guam
✟5,182,747.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Don't play the fool, AV. YOu know better. You and Greatcloud wanted to use something NASA didn't exactly know every jot and tittle of to call into question what NASA tells you about global climate change.

THAT was what was wrong. AND, of course, you know that.

You guys were too busy laughing at NASA to realize that what you were laughing at (or found to be weird) was anything but funny or weird or difficult to understand.

Don't play word games with me, AV, and don't play the "equivocation" game. Just don't.
Either highlight, or shush about it please.
 
Upvote 0

SithDoughnut

The Agnostic, Ignostic, Apatheistic Atheist
Jan 2, 2010
9,118
306
The Death Starbucks
✟33,474.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Either highlight, or shush about it please.

The highlight was in the first line of the post you quoted. And the second. And the third. In fact, the post was basically a giant line drawn under the fundamental and probably intentional mistake you made.

If you want your mistake put into a shorter phrase, "false extrapolation" would work.
 
Upvote 0