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Upgrade Task List 5/22/08

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~Jo~

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Thanks mnphysicist, at last an answer just one more thing any idea how long the other things are going to take, as I to have a pet and would love to have her back, so when will the chat box be here as there are loads of people leaving or just not coming here because its not here anymore and so when they ask me I can give them so info and hope to thanks again.
 
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The interim chat box will be up soon.... hopefully tomorrow, could even be this evening. (we are currently debugging it in staff only mode)

The jobs are just waiting for the graphics, and descriptions for the 3 newest positions. You can sort of see whats going on at http://christianforums.com/jobs.php

The bank is still buggey... once we get that resolved, Pets is next.

We will revist the chatbox once we have the above tasks squared up.
 
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I'm curious about the time it has been taking to fix bugs and implement standard vbb features.

I thought the whole point of this upgrade was how much easier it was going to be to maintain code, and that so many of the previously jury-rigged features were standard and required nothing more complicated than turning on a switch.

Since that very obviously appears not to be the case, considering the time, effort, and man-power it is taking to do these things, I am really wondering what the point of this upgrade was. And I'm not being snotty, I really do think this is a legitimate question.
 
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I'm curious about the time it has been taking to fix bugs and implement standard vbb features.

I thought the whole point of this upgrade was how much easier it was going to be to maintain code, and that so many of the previously jury-rigged features were standard and required nothing more complicated than turning on a switch.

Since that very obviously appears not to be the case, considering the time, effort, and man-power it is taking to do these things, I am really wondering what the point of this upgrade was. And I'm not being snotty, I really do think this is a legitimate question.

Well, we switched developers mid stream, and a ton of info did not make it from the old to the new developer.... thus, it was like starting over, without the ability to reference the prior version. Something as simple as looking up the old graphics for jobs, had we left the old system up on a separate server would have made this simple.... instead we have to reverse engineer most functions. Thus it is slow going.

Also, many functions were partly installed, but not completed, and there were bugs that came about as a result. Those had to be fixed as well.

There really were 3 reasons for the upgrade.
1. The old version is reached end of life status, and thus was no longer supported. Ie, if had security risks and patches were not available to fix them (initially, the patches just didn't work probably due to conflicts with hacks)
2. Many of the hacks and mods did not scale so well as the site grew, thus we kept running into database crashes. For the most part, much of that, but not all has been repaired.
3. Having a coder get up to speed on all of Erwin's customizations and make direct plug in updates could likely take a year, and yet for security, something needed to be done to address current vulnerabilities.

Thus the upgrade had to occur, but alas, in hindsight, it could have been handled in a much different fashion, but these were the cards we had to work with.
 
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Well, we switched developers mid stream, and a ton of info did not make it from the old to the new developer.... thus, it was like starting over, without the ability to reference the prior version. Something as simple as looking up the old graphics for jobs, had we left the old system up on a separate server would have made this simple.... instead we have to reverse engineer most functions. Thus it is slow going.

Also, many functions were partly installed, but not completed, and there were bugs that came about as a result. Those had to be fixed as well.

There really were 3 reasons for the upgrade.
1. The old version is reached end of life status, and thus was no longer supported. Ie, if had security risks and patches were not available to fix them (initially, the patches just didn't work probably due to conflicts with hacks)
2. Many of the hacks and mods did not scale so well as the site grew, thus we kept running into database crashes. For the most part, much of that, but not all has been repaired.
3. Having a coder get up to speed on all of Erwin's customizations and make direct plug in updates could likely take a year, and yet for security, something needed to be done to address current vulnerabilities.

Thus the upgrade had to occur, but alas, in hindsight, it could have been handled in a much different fashion, but these were the cards we had to work with.

Thank you for this explanation of the process.
 
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Well, we switched developers mid stream, and a ton of info did not make it from the old to the new developer.... thus, it was like starting over, without the ability to reference the prior version. Something as simple as looking up the old graphics for jobs, had we left the old system up on a separate server would have made this simple.... instead we have to reverse engineer most functions. Thus it is slow going.

Also, many functions were partly installed, but not completed, and there were bugs that came about as a result. Those had to be fixed as well.

There really were 3 reasons for the upgrade.
1. The old version is reached end of life status, and thus was no longer supported. Ie, if had security risks and patches were not available to fix them (initially, the patches just didn't work probably due to conflicts with hacks)
2. Many of the hacks and mods did not scale so well as the site grew, thus we kept running into database crashes. For the most part, much of that, but not all has been repaired.
3. Having a coder get up to speed on all of Erwin's customizations and make direct plug in updates could likely take a year, and yet for security, something needed to be done to address current vulnerabilities.

Thus the upgrade had to occur, but alas, in hindsight, it could have been handled in a much different fashion, but these were the cards we had to work with.

Thanks for the communication... :thumbsup:

Ty
 
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Thank you so much for the answers, you have been well and truly helpful and really looking forward to the new stuff, and the Chat box back is going to be brillian,t many thanks on behalf of myself and all those I know and I will pass this great news on to them......... Yeh magic.

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Is there anyplace that we can go to get just the facts about what is going on and not have to sift throught hundreds of "you're doing a great job" and "thanks for the updates"? I know this might sound harsh but I haven't been on for a couple of months and when I came on tonight I felt lost. I'm trying to find out some FAQs but it really is a pain to have to sift through all these comments to get to the facts. If there is not already, perhaps we could have a thread that ONLY infomation could be added to. I don't mean to be rude but my character is gone and I miss her.
 
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Thus the upgrade had to occur, but alas, in hindsight, it could have been handled in a much different fashion, but these were the cards we had to work with.
Hats off to all on the team working to keep CF running!!

I miss the "search function" most of all on the boards but alas, I realize there are more pressing things. God bless all and may your wages be much in the Kingdom!! :wave:
 
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