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Hey, all I know is what he said. Beyond that, I really have no opinion. I have never heard anything unorthodox from the man's mouth. Given his 20 years of faithful service, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt out of charity unless I am shown otherwise, because as of right now, no one knows anything... It might make me feel good to jump his case because I would love him to have followed in Padre's Pio's footsteps and then had this all work itself out... But that doesn't change the fact that I don't know anything at all about the situation and really should just keep my mouth shut, pray hard, and practice a little bit of humility.
Well that clarifies the sticking point.
He still has to answer the letter.
I can't see anyone in their right mind filing for a divorce except to protect themselves. This has got to be an indication of despair, despondency and depression. So unlike him. Something must be wrong.
Are you suggesting that if the Pope does not grant this, he will be forced to stay in the priesthood? Nobody can force a priest to exercise his priesthood, Tlf. Get real.
Without a doubt, he would make the decision to leave prior to petitioning Rome. It is the same with couples who decide to divorce. The actual decree is not granted until months after forming the decision and subsequently petitioning the court.
I remind you that he is already suspended from active priestly ministry. This suspension may or may not keep him limbo indefinitely. He needs to get on with his life, and I would not blame him for asking for a final dispensation rather than live in limbo. Either that, or stay and fight, which ultimately is his right to decide - not yours. Nor is it your place to judge his motives or decisions in this matter.
This is like a pack of vultures picking the bones of a priest as if he was fair game for your judgments.
It still never says in the correspondence that he is seeking laicization, but that he is leaving, "...active ministry and religious life." Does that mean SOLT in particular? That is how I understand it... Time will tell, I suppose.
Right, thats what I assumed from the end where the article said he would be helped to do so if he confirmed that intention. At least thats what I read "leaving religious life" to mean. What it looks like to me is that he assumes he will get no vindication from the Bishop so has been encouraged to take it to the civil courts but can't do that without resigning. It seems he has lawyers who are advising him. All I can say is woe to his accuser if she lied. She will be held accountable in a civil court. The Bishop could never do that. If he is exonerated I see no reason he could not be reinstated as a priest at a later date. Thats why I suggested earlier on that this may set a precedent for wrongly accused priests to resign and defend themselves through the civil courts, which might just be a good thing.
I believe that he is justified in not seeking to clear his name through a canonical process; at the present time such processes are very flawed in most dioceses. Rather I would like to believe that he intends to try to clear his name through the civil courts. Since I believe that his accuser is a former manager of his media company who he terminated with some kind termination agreement, and since she has evidently sought revenge for her termination by writing to the Bishop of Corpus Christi denouncing Father John, I believe that it is possible for him to do so and I wish him every success in such an endeavor. The basis for his lawsuit would probably be defamation of character, libel, extortion, breech of contract, or whatever.
Father John Corapi and the State of Due Process for Accused Priests | Catholic LaneI was angry about all this until I became aware of the extent to which our Church and our priests have been subjected to rampant fraud. As unjust as the Father Corapi case is, it is at least current. He and his supporters at least have an opportunity to gather information that could point to less than stellar motives for his accuser’s claims. Already, the claim has has surfaced that his accuser — whose name, to date, has been shielded from public scrutiny — had previously threatened to “destroy” Father Corapi. If clear evidence of guilt is not forthcoming soon, then it is time for the true voice of the faithful to help restore Fr. John Corapi’s good name and ministry.
Mounting any defense at all, however, is simply not a luxury that most accused priests have had. In the early 1990s, insurance companies ended coverage for damages when Catholic institutions were sued in sex abuse claims. Since then, a full seventy percent of the claims against priests have alleged abuse that is decades old, and for which no clear evidence of either guilt or innocence could possibly exist.
In all claims against priests in the United States since 2002, the accused priests – if they are even still living – have been placed on “administrative leave,” but often with little hope of ever clearing their names. Their bishops assure them and the public that their suspensions are “pending investigation,” but there is often no legitimate investigation. How could there be after the passage of decades? Many of the claims are deemed “credible” solely because a diocese fears litigation and decides to settle.
In Defense of Father John Corapi | improperium Christi
This brings up a good point. Is it possible to not seek laicization, accept the suspension of his faculties, and continue to minister as John Corapi? Has he actually said anywhere that he is leaving the priesthood, or only that he is, "not going to be involved in public ministry as a priest any longer?"
Edit: This seems to be backed by this statement:
A FEW THOUGHTS ON FATHER CORAPI’S ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY | ABYSSUS ABYSSUM INVOCAT / DEEP CALLS TO DEEP
It's not about his shows. I can honestly say I have never really sat through a Fr. Corapi TV show, but from what I have seen and heard his stuff is pretty orthodox. His voice has always seemed a bit "over the top", but no more than other Priests and Deacons I've known that have a "Mass voice" and a "Regular voice". The truth is his voice has always reminded me of the public speaking voice of Jim McGreevey, and I think anyone who has heard both of them speak from behind a podium will attest to this. What I resented about Father C. is probably the same resentment infantry soldiers have towards fighter pilots: While infantry soldiers are "on the ground" fighting for every square inch of ground to gain in the battle, the pilots take off from someplace behind the battle lines, fly over, drop a few bombs, then go back to land at the safe spot. To some extent, it's easy to be orthodox if you have gigs like this. You show up at an event. Your audience is almost completely those who feel the same way as you do, you make them laugh, get serious, tell Catholics what the liberals are doing wrong, say Mass, sign some autographs, and you're done and out of the town 6 hours after you arrived. Oh yeah, and you get paid.
When this is all said and done, my hunch is that it's not going to be about sex, it's going to be about money. This guy lives on a ranch in Montana. Once I went searching for information on his website about the possibility of having him speak in a parish I was assigned to at the time. The fee was something like $3,000, plus expenses (travel to and from Montana, which can't be cheap).
SO funny, I was seriously wondering about this too but didn't have time to look into it. I was thinking that he probably didn't just whip out this book in the last foru months so it made sense tha maybe it went back before this mess. Then I did read on Jimmy akin's blog that Corapi did start writting the book after this all started which he took as a sign that as soon as Corpai hear dof the accusations he started thinking of a way around the mess he was in. I got the feeling that Jimmy was just writting that off the cuff though and didn't really know the deatils about how the book was started.Another interesting note, the working title of his autobiography, "The Black Sheepdog," has been discussed over the last five years, and has been trademarked for over a year now. It is not some new, off-the-deep-end revelation of his that marks a psychological fall...
If he is exonerated I see no reason he could not be reinstated as a priest at a later date. Thats why I suggested earlier on that this may set a precedent for wrongly accused priests to resign and defend themselves through the civil courts, which might just be a good thing.
you just happen to be forgetting one tiny insy weensy little point
money
father corapi is a multi-millionaire living on his ranch in montana
most priests, if their are lucky, probably would run out of money in 3 months and would lose their charity pension
in addition to that- most priests have their education paid for by the diocese where they work and if they leave the priesthood would most likely by contract agreement have to pay back all the money, even though most of it came from special collections during daily masses- it could amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars for an education which is basically useless outside the Church
finally, nine times out of ten the person you want to sue has no money- good like finding a lawyer who is going to sue a turnip
The suit is already moving forward.
The lady.
Another interesting note, the working title of his autobiography, "The Black Sheepdog," has been discussed over the last five years, and has been trademarked for over a year now. It is not some new, off-the-deep-end revelation of his that marks a psychological fall...
In Defense of Father John Corapi | improperium Christi
This brings up a good point. Is it possible to not seek laicization, accept the suspension of his faculties, and continue to minister as John Corapi? Has he actually said anywhere that he is leaving the priesthood, or only that he is, "not going to be involved in public ministry as a priest any longer?"
Edit: This seems to be backed by this statement:
A FEW THOUGHTS ON FATHER CORAPIS ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY | ABYSSUS ABYSSUM INVOCAT / DEEP CALLS TO DEEP
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