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Pray, when you point the finger, it is in the right way with the right knowledge.
No one's pointing fingers except Christians pointing to the Truth in Christ and His word, not reading something they want to see into it.
Take a look at yourself.
Now that you've nailed that down, what do you do with it? Heresy still gets one a visit to the Great White Throne.
Don't need to. I prayed about this after I came out of "her". Shame others don't do the same, but ALL will SEE, and ALL will HEAR, and EVERY KNEE WILL BOW. This it does say!
No. Being a person gets you a visit to the Great White Throne.
Heresy is man-made stuff. God knows the heart.
Who is "her"? The Church of Jesus Christ? For shame.
Yes, every knee will bow! Not every knee will be one in gratitude of Jesus' blood. For those knees will come and bend before the firece God of wrath in horrified acknowledgement of the Saviour and Lord they had rejected, who paid the price for their sin, but they never alowed that debt to be paid--and God will extract that price from them...in Hell.
This takes place a millenium after the Church will have already enjoyed Her reward! No more rewards are given at the GWT Judgement.
Read the Word with an open heart. Know what God is saying to you, instead of what you wish He would be saying to you.
If you deny this horrific scenario that is about to come, you do harm, in that you lack the sense of urgency that Jesus had for humanity, and that He passed on to His apostles and his hundreds of disciples at His ascension. How dare anyone preach another version of what God has clearly warned us about!
My God, my God! I can hardly contain my anger at the affrontery of Universalists to preach error and heresy to the unbelieving world, and those weak believers alike, making them as crooked in their thinking as they are themselves!
There you go, putting more words into my mouth. Dang, you are getting good at this, fire upon fire. I came out of the man made doctrinal traps, that have been set in motion, going back to Eden. I trust God, not man.Who is "her"? The Church of Jesus Christ? For shame.
So by saying this, it is my understanding that you don't "think" God calls people to himself?Yes, every knee will bow! Not every knee will be one in gratitude of Jesus' blood. For those knees will come and bend before the firece God of wrath in horrified acknowledgement of the Saviour and Lord they had rejected, who paid the price for their sin, but they never alowed that debt to be paid--and God will extract that price from them...in Hell.
Never said there was. Unless you think eternal life is a reward, but from what you say, even though those who do not believe will burn forever, these still have eternal life, right?This takes place a millenium after the Church will have already enjoyed Her reward! No more rewards are given at the GWT Judgement.
That God is Love, and if you Love Him, you will keep His commandments, and not talk too much, so that you don't fall trap into judging one another, so you won't be judged according to that standard? Yep, got it, believe it, and live it. That Jesus's blood saves the world, and you don't want to fall trap into believing lies, and to remember your FIRST LOVE? Yep, got that, too.If you deny this horrific scenario that is about to come, you do harm, in that you lack the sense of urgency that Jesus had for humanity, and that He passed on to His apostles and his hundreds of disciples at His ascension. How dare anyone preach another version of what God has clearly warned us about!
I don't get angry at people who preach your brand of hell fire and damnation. I grew up in that theocratical nightmare. Hopefully as more come into the truth about God, and realize the Love He has shown humanity, the more they will draw close to Him, and follow His ways. But of course, this is only according to His Will, not yours or anyone else.My God, my God! I can hardly contain my anger at the affrontery of Universalists to preach error and heresy to the unbelieving world, and those weak believers alike, making them as crooked in their thinking as they are themselves!
There you go, putting more words into my mouth. Dang, you are getting good at this, fire upon fire. I came out of the man made doctrinal traps, that have been set in motion, going back to Eden. I trust God, not man.
So by saying this, it is my understanding that you don't "think" God calls people to himself?
Never said there was. Unless you think eternal life is a reward, but from what you say, even though those who do not believe will burn forever, these still have eternal life, right?
That God is Love, and if you Love Him, you will keep His commandments, and not talk too much, so that you don't fall trap into judging one another, so you won't be judged according to that standard? Yep, got it, believe it, and live it. That Jesus's blood saves the world, and you don't want to fall trap into believing lies, and to remember your FIRST LOVE? Yep, got that, too.
I don't get angry at people who preach your brand of hell fire and damnation. I grew up in that theocratical nightmare. Hopefully as more come into the truth about God, and realize the Love He has shown humanity, the more they will draw close to Him, and follow His ways. But of course, this is only according to His Will, not yours or anyone else.
You actually detract from the GREAT UNFATHOMABLE LOVE of God in Christ Jesus by telling the world that His sacrifice wasn't enough! You say that His blood spilled for our sake isn't the saving element that God says it is. You make God a liar by your "lovey dovey" vision of who God is NOT.
You minimize and deflect from the blood of the Lamb. JESUS CHRIST is enough! JESUS CHRIST is the DOOR! He alone is the WAY to heaven. Refuse Him and die. He will not drag people to heaven kicking and screaming! He gives us a choice and NOT ALL CHOOSE HIM!
Get over it with your bleeding heart theology which is from the pit of hell itself.
God is the God of wrath, which He is saving up for that great day of wrath where He will pour it out on all those who have lived to hate Him, either deliberately or passively.
Heaven has an opposite. God tells us. Stop making God a liar.
Hebrews 10
31 It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God....
37-39 For in just a little while,
the Coming One will come and not delay.
38 And my righteous ones will live by faith.
But I will take no pleasure in anyone who turns away.
39 But we are not like those who turn away from God to their own destruction. We are the faithful ones, whose souls will be saved.
I'm so sorry you don't understand us. Because it's so obvious you don't understand our hearts or the message. You spit venom at us like we are of the devil or something.
I hope and pray one day you will understand, if not the message, then our hearts... God bless you, FloatingAxe..
You actually detract from the GREAT UNFATHOMABLE LOVE of God in Christ Jesus by telling the world that His sacrifice wasn't enough! You say that His blood spilled for our sake isn't the saving element that God says it is. You make God a liar by your "lovey dovey" vision of who God is NOT.
You minimize and deflect from the blood of the Lamb. JESUS CHRIST is enough! JESUS CHRIST is the DOOR! He alone is the WAY to heaven. Refuse Him and die. He will not drag people to heaven kicking and screaming! He gioves us a choice and NOT ALL CHOOSE HIM!
Get over it with your bleeding heart theology which is from the pit of hell itself.
God is the God of wrath, which He is saving up for that great day of wrath where He will pour it out on all those who have lived to hate Him, either deliberately or passively.
Heaven has an opposite. God tells us. Stop making God a liar.
Hebrews 10
31 It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God....
37-39 For in just a little while,
the Coming One will come and not delay.
38 And my righteous ones will live by faith.
But I will take no pleasure in anyone who turns away.”
39 But we are not like those who turn away from God to their own destruction. We are the faithful ones, whose souls will be saved.
Actually, that is you doing this, not me. You say there is MORE to do. I say it HAS BEEN DONE!You actually detract from the GREAT UNFATHOMABLE LOVE of God in Christ Jesus by telling the world that His sacrifice wasn't enough!
Again, you say this isn't enough, and there is MORE WE HAVE TO DO!You say that His blood spilled for our sake isn't the saving element that God says it is.
Really? That ISN'T who God is? Let us see who God is, OK?You make God a liar by your "lovey dovey" vision of who God is NOT.
You minimize and deflect from the blood of the Lamb. JESUS CHRIST is enough!
Actually, as I previously stated and as it is stated in the Word, He is the Way INTO the City of God. There WILL BE those on the outside, though.JESUS CHRIST is the DOOR! He alone is the WAY to heaven.
Wow, such animosity from a Christian. You ok? Need a hug?Get over it with your bleeding heart theology which is from the pit of hell itself.
Actually, God is Love, as stated from the verses I just quoted. Love Him and Keep His Commandments, and Love your fellow man. Simple enough, sister.God is the God of wrath, which He is saving up for that great day of wrath where He will pour it out on all those who have lived to hate Him, either deliberately or passively.
Actually we get a new earth. There is the City of God, and the new earth. What is the opposite of earth? And who is calling God a liar now? Sure isn't me, as I would not do that.Heaven has an opposite. God tells us. Stop making God a liar.
Hebrews 10
31 It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God....
37-39 For in just a little while,
the Coming One will come and not delay.
38 And my righteous ones will live by faith.
But I will take no pleasure in anyone who turns away.”
39 But we are not like those who turn away from God to their own destruction. We are the faithful ones, whose souls will be saved.
The reality of Gods great plan of Salvation is described in Scripture....
You see Jesus will not reign forever....he will reign so well that he will do away with the need for it....every knee will bow to Jesus every tounge above the Earth On the Earth and under the Earth will confess Jesus is Lord...
That is when Jesus hands the Kingdom over to the Father so that God can be all in All.
Arguements against Gods great plan of Salvation.....
see that sentance immediatly above, can you see how ludicrouse that sounds in light of the over whelming Power and Will of God....who will get...his...way for all.
Peace
The Sin consequences of Child Killing was paid in full at the Cross....along with all the other horrible Sins men commit.....
So no one can ever be found guilty of them even when they do not repent?The Sin consequences of Child Killing was paid in full at the Cross....along with all the other horrible Sins men commit.....
The exact truth is that I DO understand you. I know that you are looking at God with human hearts, hearts of clay, and you just cannot fathom how God who IS LOVE can actually contain such fierce, unbending wrath. Well He does. The same God who is LOVE is also the God who HATES sin. He is a whole, complete embodiment of ALL characteristics in their ultimate and perfect form.
A HOLY GOD cannot stand to have sin in His presence. He WILL NOT abide it and He CANNOT abide it.
You must accept His whole word and not only portions of it that your weak stomachs cannot comprehend. Try comprehending how Jesus the perfect Lamb was mutilated and beaten beyond recognition for you personally and then say that it wasn't enough! It was more than enough! Those who reject the bleeding mass who once was the man Jesus will be rejected by His Father who loves Him and will not allow anyone to refuse Him and LIVE.
The doctrine of Universalism in all its forms is indeed a doctrine of demons crafted for those who are sensitive to the harsher aspects of God's truth and don't want to face them or examine them, least of all embrace them! It appeases their fear and distaste of the truth and the harsh reality that actual people they know will meet their eternal end in dire torment.
They don't realize that it is that very truth that Jesus tells us to get moving! Time is short! It should be spurring us on to reach the entire world for Jesus Christ!
Job 36:17
But you are obsessed with whether the godless will be judged.
Don’t worry, judgment and justice will be upheld.
So no one can ever be found guilty of them even when they do not repent?
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