Universalism in harmony with blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

ClementofA

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Jesus said that blaspheming the Holy Spirit shall never be forgiven. What does it mean to blaspheme the Holy Spirit? Most protestants believe that it means to literally compare the Holy Spirit to something demonic like what the Pharisees did.

A definition of the sin of BHS does not AFAIK appear anywhere in the Scriptures. Neither is it ever stated that anyone has ever committed this sin, or if it is possible for anyone to do so since Christ was resurrected and went to heaven.

Mk.3:28 Verily, I am saying to you that all shall be pardoned the sons of mankind, the penalties of the sins and the blasphemies, whatsoever they should be blaspheming, 29 yet whoever should be blaspheming against the holy spirit is having no pardon for the eon, but is liable to the eonian penalty for the sin-" 30 for they said, "An unclean spirit has he." (CLV)

The NT translation of Eastern Orthodox scholar David Bentley Hart says:

"But whoever blasphemes against the Spirit, the Holy one, has no excuse throughout the age*, but is answerable for a transgression in the Age**" (Mk.3:29)

* Or "until the Age [to come]"
** An "aeonian transgression": perhaps "answerable for an age-long transgression."

(The New Testament: A Translation, 2017, Yale University Press, p.69)

“And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this AGE, neither in the AGE to come.” (Mt.12:32)

As per the Scripture passages above, the "penalty" for BHS is limited to "this age" & the "age to come". Since there is at least one age beyond those (Eph.1:21; 2:7; Lk.1:33; Rev.22:5, etc), the passages tell us nothing about the final destiny of those who commit such a sin. [Or if anyone ever committed it]. It does, however, inform us as to the final destiny of all others who didn't committ that sin, namely forgiveness, or pardon:

Mk.3:28 Verily, I am saying to you that all shall be pardoned the sons of mankind, the penalties of the sins and the blasphemies, whatsoever they should be blaspheming

BTW, David Burnfield makes an interesting point re Mt. 25:46:

"None of the sins listed in [the context of] Matt.25:46 can be considered blasphemy of the Holy Spirit."

He quotes Mt.12:31:

"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven." (NASB)

And emphasizes the words "any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people".

He then says "If we can believe what Christ tells us, then the 'only' sin that is 'not' forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit which obviously does not include the sins listed in Matt.25:34-44."

Then he quotes from Jan Bonda's book "The One Purpose of God...":

"Verse...46, in particular, has always been cited as undeniable proof that Jesus taught eternal punishment. Yet it is clear that the sins Jesus listed in this passage do not constitute the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Assuming Jesus did not utter this word with the intention of contradicting what he said moments before [Matt 12:31], we must accept that the sins mentioned in this passage [Matt 25:46] will eventually be forgiven. This means, however strange it may sound to us, that this statement of Jesus about eternal punishment is not the final word for those who are condemned."

(Patristic Universalism: An Alternative To The Traditional View of Divine Judgement, 2nd ed, 2016, by David Burnfield, p.220-1)

The aforementioned Bentley Hart translation does not use the words "eternal" or "everlasting" at Mt.25:46, but instead reads "chastening of that Age" & "life of that Age". Many other versions do likewise, as listed here:

Have you been decieved by your Bible translation?

For the Lord will NOT cast off FOR EVER:

Augustine's ignorance & error re Matthew 25:46

Spirit blasphemy - unpardonable sin
 

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No time to get involved ...

I just want to say that David Bentley Hart does not necessarily represent Orthodoxy.

We may have various hopes of God's mercy ... but the Orthodox Church does not affirm Universalism as an official doctrine.

Carry on.

And blessed Nativity to all. :)
 
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1. Speaking literally against the Holy Spirit ( Matthew 12:31-32 )
2. Wanting to have sex with the Holy Spirit
3. Speaking evil of the Holy Spirit
4. Denying the Holy Spirit ( Luke 12:8-10 )

MANY people have done this sin like people who took the blasphemy challenge by rational response squad.


Links below
blasphemy challenge - YouTube

i deny the holy spirit - YouTube
 
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Neither is it ever stated that anyone has ever committed this sin, or if it is possible for anyone to do so since Christ was resurrected and went to heaven.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is a mechanical or fundamental construction thing.
You can't ask for forgiveness or even be forgiven if you erect a wall between you
and God. If you cut off the Holy Spirit and ridicule the work of the H.S. then you
have stopped the available communication channel for forgiveness.

Scripture is, in a sense, shrugging its shoulders. There is nothing God can do to save such people.
This is the one sin that leads to death.
 
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A definition of the sin of BHS does not AFAIK appear anywhere in the Scriptures. Neither is it ever stated that anyone has ever committed this sin, or if it is possible for anyone to do so since Christ was resurrected and went to heaven.

Jesus went to Hell, then to Heaven.
Do not follow?
 
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