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Didn't McCain call for unity in his concession speech?

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Maybe that is why McCain lost.

I do not want a person in public office that supports all the people. I want a person in office that will support good people and eliminates evil people.

II Corthians 6:14 states, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

The Bible defines what is evil.

“If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
During the life of any heart this line keeps changing place; sometimes it is squeezed one way by exuberant evil and sometimes it shifts to allow enough space for good to flourish. One and the same human being is, at various ages, under various circumstances, a totally different human being. At times he is close to being a devil, at times to sainthood. But his name doesn't change, and to that name we ascribe the whole lot, good and evil.
Socrates taught us: "Know thyself."
Contronted by the pit into which we are about to toss those who have done us harm, we halt, stricken dumb: it is after all only because of the way things worked out that they were the executioners and we weren't.
From good to evil is one quaver, says the proverb.
And correspondingly, from evil to good.”

- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
The Gulag Archipelago
 
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morningstar2651 quote

Didn't McCain call for unity in his concession speech?

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Maybe that is why McCain lost.

I do not want a person in public office that supports all the people. I want a person in office that will support good people and eliminates evil people.

II Corthians 6:14 states, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

The Bible defines what is evil.

Eliminating evil people...you mean like concentration camps?
 
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Eliminating evil people...you mean like concentration camps?

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One of the characteristics of evil people is that their lifestyle is not self sustaining. They need assistance from somewhere to survive. Without that outside assistance, the evil people would not survive. In nature, this is called the survival of the fittest.

Socialism is an attempt to make the unworkable work through health care/welfare. The Bible defines evil as evil, because it does not work. It can work for a short time or there can be a season of pleasure, but ultimately evil leads to disease, death and destruction.

Prevention is the only answer, and that is what the Bible advocates, by a list of "Thou shall nots" called the Ten Commandments.

The reason the Bible talks of a "remnant" is that many are deceived and do not survive..
 
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Eliminating evil people...you mean like concentration camps?

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One of the characteristics of evil people is that their lifestyle is not self sustaining. They need assistance from somewhere to survive. Without that outside assistance, the evil people would not survive. In nature, this is called the survival of the fittest.

Socialism is an attempt to make the unworkable work through health care/welfare. The Bible defines evil as evil, because it does not work. It can work for a short time or there can be a season of pleasure, but ultimately evil leads to disease, death and destruction.

Prevention is the only answer, and that is what the Bible advocates, by a list of "Thou shall nots" called the Ten Commandments.

The reason the Bible talks of a "remnant" is that many are deceived and do not survive..

I'm sorry...was that a yes or a no to genocide?
 
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morningstar2651 quote

Eliminating evil people...you mean like concentration camps?

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One of the characteristics of evil people is that their lifestyle is not self sustaining. They need assistance from somewhere to survive. Without that outside assistance, the evil people would not survive. In nature, this is called the survival of the fittest.

So that's why tax-exempt churches still need to pass around collection plates!
 
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"If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
During the life of any heart this line keeps changing place; sometimes it is squeezed one way by exuberant evil and sometimes it shifts to allow enough space for good to flourish. One and the same human being is, at various ages, under various circumstances, a totally different human being. At times he is close to being a devil, at times to sainthood. But his name doesn't change, and to that name we ascribe the whole lot, good and evil.
Socrates taught us: "Know thyself."
Contronted by the pit into which we are about to toss those who have done us harm, we halt, stricken dumb: it is after all only because of the way things worked out that they were the executioners and we weren't.
From good to evil is one quaver, says the proverb.
And correspondingly, from evil to good."
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. The Gulag Archipelago

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It is obvious that most people understand good and evil, they just don't know what to about it.

The OT did call for society to execution people that allowed evil to prevail in their lives.

The NT deals with good and evil in a different manner. Matthew 6:29 states, And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell." This is self examination where each person is required to judge themselves relative to God's Law.

The NT way is best, but some people truly hate God, so I believe there has to be a combination of both the NT and OT in dealing with people.

I believe the Bible teaches all things should be dealt with by the following three levels of action;
1) If it is good - accept it and nourish it.
2) If it is evil - reject it but tolerate it.
3) If it threatens your existence - destroy it before it destroys you. This is self defense, which both the individual and society have a right and responsibility to do.

The first two are from the New Testament of the Bible and represent the Law of Love. The third is from the Old Testament of the Bible and represents the Law of Purity/Self Defense. The New Testament deals more with personal responsibility and the Old Testament deals more with the preservation of society. The Old Testament and the New Testament together present God's Law, a means of survival for a person, a nation and a world.
 
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False witnessing is rejected by the Bible but that doesn't even slow some people in their obsession of doing so in every thread they begin. Also, it would be nice if peeps respected Jesus enough to not exploit his name for partisan rants. He didn't die on the Cross for obscenely petty political jabs.
 
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This plea for unity is such a Trojan horse. While Democrats are calling for unity and healing they are starting an investigation of the Bush administration.

What kind of logic concludes an investigation negates unity? Those of us who care about the Truth want the Truth.
 
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What kind of logic concludes an investigation negates unity? Those of us who care about the Truth want the Truth.

The truth is McCain was a sacrifice to lure "The Left" out into the open full force.

I don't believe for a second that Cheney and his pals are stupid.

The American people just didn't, or rather doesn't, believe the depths of anti-freedoms and perversions that "The Left" represents. We are not europe or europeans. We left that place for a reason. When true American freedom is restricted by "The Left," only two things will result, "The Left" will be jettisoned from our political spectrum, or the United States won't stay united and will break into four or five different countries (or more) on what was the land of the US.

Many states and/or a few joined together, can exist as independent countries right now.

Tolerance does not mean subjugation, and that is what "The Left" is rapidly espousing.

If a government gives us everything, it can also take it all away just as easy.

Orwell right?
 
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The truth is McCain was a sacrifice to lure "The Left" out into the open full force.

I don't believe for a second that Cheney and his pals are stupid.

The American people just didn't, or rather doesn't, believe the depths of anti-freedoms and perversions that "The Left" represents. We are not europe or europeans. We left that place for a reason. When true American freedom is restricted by "The Left," only two things will result, "The Left" will be jettisoned from our political spectrum, or the United States won't stay united and will break into four or five different countries (or more) on what was the land of the US.

Many states and/or a few joined together, can exist as independent countries right now.

Tolerance does not mean subjugation, and that is what "The Left" is rapidly espousing.

If a government gives us everything, it can also take it all away just as easy.

Orwell right?

I wish my posts wouldn't be quoted to be abused as a springboard for a complete waste of time in hack partisan rants.
 
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The truth is McCain was a sacrifice to lure "The Left" out into the open full force.

I don't believe for a second that Cheney and his pals are stupid.

The American people just didn't, or rather doesn't, believe the depths of anti-freedoms and perversions that "The Left" represents. We are not europe or europeans. We left that place for a reason. When true American freedom is restricted by "The Left," only two things will result, "The Left" will be jettisoned from our political spectrum, or the United States won't stay united and will break into four or five different countries (or more) on what was the land of the US.

Many states and/or a few joined together, can exist as independent countries right now.

Tolerance does not mean subjugation, and that is what "The Left" is rapidly espousing.

If a government gives us everything, it can also take it all away just as easy.

Orwell right?
So, "the Right" is willing to risk dismantling the country in order to eliminate their political enemies?
 
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The Community Reinvestment Act, a socialist program by democrats, lead to the housing bubble and credit panic.
AFAIK the CRA was enacted 30 years ago, then was weakened by Bush Administration in 2004. Don't really seem related to subprime crisis.
I think I was wrong for the CRA. This has to be said. :o
However this do not explain why nothing has been done for stopping Fannie and Freddy :confused:
edit: [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth], the Congress have increased the risk in the beginings of 2008 apparently.
 
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I think I was wrong for the CRA. This has to be said. :o
However this do not explain why nothing has been done for stopping Fannie and Freddy :confused:
edit: [wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth], the Congress have increased the risk in the beginings of 2008 apparently.

The Republicans have yet to prove they support Christian principles but the Democrats have proven they do not support those principles. Thus, anything that is good about our nation is the fruit of the good works of Republicans. Likewise, anything that is, was, or will be wrong with our nation is the fault of the Democrats. It was because of Democrats we lost so many lives at the Alamo. All those pot holes in our roads? Democrats are to blame. Democrats caused soaring gas prices but the Republicans brought it back down through wise and conservative fiscal spending, ensuring Iraq would never cost more than $12 Trillion per month. The epidemic of overweights is because of Democrats too. The next time you go out to eat and the kitchen screws up your order...remember it only happened because of the Democrats. Jesus died for everyone, except active Democrats.
 
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