Unity

[clirus]

Unity

After winning an election, democrats always call for unity. Democrats seem to think that winning an election proves that the Atheistic Lifestyle is good. I define the Atheistic Lifestyle as extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, and homosexuality all of which are rejected by the Bible.

People that advocate the Atheistic Lifestyle usually oppose the death penalty, oppose wars, accept evolution, demand separation of church and state, hope medical science will cure all disease, hope science will explain creation, hope government will provide for all human needs through health care/welfare/etc..

All that an election proves is that greater than 50% of the people agree on things. The proof that they were right is the results of what happens. An old saying is, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating."

The proof that the democrats were right will be that America is better off a few years from now or worse off. Some say it could not get any worse, but that is very naive. I believe the Atheistic Lifestyle leads to disease, death and destruction as proved by AIDS and STDS. I believe America and the world could be a whole lot worse off a few years from now.

Some would say there is no relation between economy, government and religion, but Proverbs 29:2 says, "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn."

I believe the 2008 election by the democrats because the Atheistic Liberal News Media exploited the War on Terrorism and the Economy in order to implement the Atheistic Lifestyle. Some would say this was not intentional, but I believe it was. I believe we are still in the Cultural War.

There is a cultural war in America between Christians and Atheists. This war is being fought on the battlefield of politics. The battles are in the voting booth. The prize in the cultural war is the hearts, minds and souls of the children. The Atheistic liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, Conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. The agenda of the Atheistic liberal news media is to promote extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, homosexuality and the Atheistic Lifestyle by having democrats in control of government.

Christians will win the Cultural War only after things get so bad that people repent of their acceptance of the Atheistic Lifestyle and there is a revival in America.

The Atheistic Liberal News Media was good a spinning hope so that democrats could win the 2008 election, but it is a lot harder spinning reality.

 

[Staccato]

Someone is sore their candidate lost huh?

But, y'know, think of it as an 'atheistic liberal media' conspiracy if you want. Whatever dulls the pain of knowing that the ideology the Republicans currently represent was soundly rejected.

 

[JoshuaW]

Clirius, I think you are one of the few who put much thought into an Atheistic Lifestyle. Most of us, Democrats included, credit God with all we have, whether we go to church or not. We believe He is keeping score over what we do, and we try to follow Jesus' teachings in helping our fellow man. I don't see much future in your insistence that most people are atheists.

 

[JustOneWay]

I believe I have read this OP before? deja vous

 

[PantsMcFist]

What kind of feminism are you referring to Clirus? Marxist? Complementarian? Egalitarian? There's so many types and you are so ambiguous.

 

[ArnautDaniel]

Clirus -

You'd better be careful or the plagiarism fairy is going to blight you with a horrid skin condition.

 

[Open]

Hi Cilrus.

I believe you post is indicitave of the lack of tolerance expoused by many from your political ideology and has been roundly rejected by the Amreican people.
Most do not want to live in a world with people with views such as you express in control. Many of the things you mention have either not changed or become 'worse' in the last 8 years uner Republican rule.

To be a Christian does not mean that one must be Republican. For sure 'by their fruits ye shall know them' is as relevant now as ever. Certainly 8 years of Replubicans has demonstrated that there is little Chistian about the party.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

Unity

After winning an election, democrats always call for unity. Democrats seem to think that winning an election proves that the Atheistic Lifestyle is good. I define the Atheistic Lifestyle as extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, and homosexuality all of which are rejected by the Bible.

This may come as a shock to you, but the majority of the population really doesn't give a rat's hind end about the issues you obsess about. Most are worried about losing their jobs, getting sick with no health insurance, not being able to pay their mortgages, and so forth.

It's kind of like the Titanic: before the iceberg hit, the three biggest issues were what was being served for dinner, what song the band was playing, and finding a sunny spot on deck. After the iceberg hit, the three biggest issues were, respectively, finding a lifeboat, finding a lifeboat, and finding a lifeboat. When the water started coming on deck, for same strange reason no one cared what the main course at the soiree was.

I suspect the economic train wreck now in progress is going to take a lot of wind from the sails of social conservatism. Whether the gay neighbors down the street marry matters a lot less when you're trying to save your own rear end from the repo man.

 

[morningstar2651]

Didn't McCain call for unity in his concession speech?

clirus, you could always flee to Mexico if you don't like America. I recommend Mexico because Canada is even more liberal than the USA.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

clirus, you could always flee to Mexico if you don't like America. I recommend Mexico because Canada is even more liberal than the USA.

I would think clirus would be more at home somewhere like Saudi Arabia or Iran.

 

[revanneosl]

 

[clirus]

TheNewWorldMan quote

This may come as a shock to you, but the majority of the population really doesn't give a rat's hind end about the issues you obsess about. Most are worried about losing their jobs, getting sick with no health insurance, not being able to pay their mortgages, and so forth.

It's kind of like the Titanic: before the iceberg hit, the three biggest issues were what was being served for dinner, what song the band was playing, and finding a sunny spot on deck. After the iceberg hit, the three biggest issues were, respectively, finding a lifeboat, finding a lifeboat, and finding a lifeboat. When the water started coming on deck, for same strange reason no one cared what the main course at the soiree was.

I suspect the economic train wreck now in progress is going to take a lot of wind from the sails of social conservatism. Whether the gay neighbors down the street marry matters a lot less when you're trying to save your own rear end from the repo man.

Response

Your statements are the reason the democrats won the 2008 election.

However your statements represent two of the major differences between Christians/Conservatives/Republicans and Atheists/Liberals/democrats. The two major differences are results verses cause and prevention versus cure.

Results versus Cause

Democrats look only at the present situation/results and will not discuss the cause of the present situation because in most cases the democrats were the cause of the present bad situation.

An example of this is the present economic crisis. The Community Reinvestment Act, a socialist program by democrats, lead to the housing bubble and credit panic.

Another example of this is the problem of illegitimate children that require health care/welfare. Democrats see only the needs of the illegitimate children, but will never discuss the pornography and adultery that preceded the illegitimate children.

Democrats can never solve any problems because the Atheistic Lifestyle advocated by democrats is the problem.

Prevention versus Cure

Christians and the Bible advocates prevention versus cure. The Bible defines evil and says "Thou shall not". The Bible defines good (beatitudes/etc) which is the Christian Lifestyle.

Prevention is the only thing that really works. After a person gets AIDS, STDS or has an illegitimate child, there are only bad options. There is no cure, just bad options.

Revival versus Destruction

I believe the Atheistic Lifestyle advocated by democrats leads to disease, death and destruction. For the next four years, this will be tested.

I believe an alternative is Revival where people renounce the Atheistic Lifestyle and accept Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and commit to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.

I believe it will take a major cataclysmic event for people to even consider Revival.

 

[clirus]

morningstar2651 quote

Didn't McCain call for unity in his concession speech?

Response

Maybe that is why McCain lost.

I do not want a person in public office that supports all the people. I want a person in office that will support good people and eliminates evil people.

II Corthians 6:14 states, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

The Bible defines what is evil.

 

[Bobfr]

You can't define people's political choices depending on their religions. There are Christians who are conservatives and Christians who are liberals. Same for atheist.

An example of this is the present economic crisis. The Community Reinvestment Act, a socialist program by democrats, lead to the housing bubble and credit panic.

Are you saying that Democrats are responsible for the economic crisis ? Who runs the govenment for almost 8 years ? Who has begun the Iraq war costling 3 billions dollars to America ?
AFAIK the CRA was enacted 30 years ago, then was weakened by Bush Administration in 2004. Don't really seem related to subprime crisis.

never discuss the pornography and adultery that preceded the illegitimate children.

Pornography leeds to illegetimate children ? Please tell me how !

 

[Steve Petersen]

Unity on what? To what end? What should we unite on?

The goal is not to get along with your political opponents, but to defeat them.

End of story. The Democrats know this, the Republicans don't.

 

[jayem]

I believe the 2008 election by the democrats because the Atheistic Liberal News Media exploited the War on Terrorism and the Economy in order to implement the Atheistic Lifestyle. Some would say this was not intentional, but I believe it was. I believe we are still in the Cultural War.

If you believe in God, then I suspect you believe God is sovereign. So obviously, God wanted the Democrats to win. And why isn't it possible that God wants our society to provide health care to all of it's members, and to share our bounty with the less privileged? How can you be so certain of what is God's will? If these election results have put the smackdown on anyone, it's on people filled with sanctimonious pride who think they, and only they know God's true desires.

You should consider what Oliver Cromwell said to the Parliament:

"I beseech thee my brethren, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you could be mistaken."

 

[Steve Petersen]

You can't define people's political choices depending on their religions. There are Christians who are conservatives and Christians who are liberals. Same for atheist.


Are you saying that Democrats are responsible for the economic crisis ? Who runs the govenment for almost 8 years ? Who has begun the Iraq war costling 3 billions dollars to America ?
AFAIK the CRA was enacted 30 years ago, then was weakened by Bush Administration in 2004. Don't really seem related to subprime crisis.


Pornography leeds to illegetimate children ? Please tell me how !

The Democrats have controlled Congress since 2007. Barney Frank said that Fannie and Freddie were just fine and needed no more regulation when some were suggesting it.

 

[clirus]

jayem quote

If you believe in God, then I suspect you believe God is sovereign. So obviously, God wanted the Democrats to win. And why isn't it possible that God wants our society to provide health care to all of it's members, and to share our bounty with the less privileged? How can you be so certain of what is God's will? If these election results have put the smackdown on anyone, it's on people filled with sanctimonious pride who think they, and only they know God's true desires.

You should consider what Oliver Cromwell said to the Parliament:

"I beseech thee my brethren, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you could be mistaken."

Response

I do not believe the sovereignty of God should ever be used to imply that just because something exists, that it is acceptable to God.

Killing exists, but God states, "Thou shalt not kill".

Adultery exist, but God states, "Thou shalt not commit adultery".

I believe God's will is revealed in the Bible. God uses the Bible to define good and evil, then states the righteous person will do good and reject/rebuke evil.

I do not believe health care/welfare is good, because it prevents the person from making an honest evaluation of their life and to then recognizing they need to accept Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and to commit to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.

I believe there needs to be much discussion of the Bible, because I believe there is a lot of false doctrine that has come into existance.

You should consider what Oliver Cromwell said to the Parliament:

"I beseech thee my brethren, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you could be mistaken."

 

[Archaeopteryx]

People that advocate the Atheistic Lifestyle usually oppose the death penalty, oppose wars, accept evolution, demand separation of church and state, hope medical science will cure all disease, hope science will explain creation, hope government will provide for all human needs through health care/welfare/etc..

Well, I tend to lean towards opposing the death penalty, have no problem with science (including evolutionary theory) so long as it does not violate the dignity of the human person, I think medical science promising through I do not believe it will cure all disease; but I also happen to believe in Christ - does that make me an atheist?
Clirus, what you are attempting to do is to generate a sweeping generalization as a label to cover all people who disagree with your opinions - that label, even if it is not appropriate, falls under the vague term 'Atheistic Lifestyle.'

Some would say there is no relation between economy, government and religion, but Proverbs 29:2 says, "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn."

Have not people always 'mourned' to some degree regardless of who is in power?

There is a cultural war in America between Christians and Atheists. This war is being fought on the battlefield of politics. The battles are in the voting booth. The prize in the cultural war is the hearts, minds and souls of the children. The Atheistic liberal news media greatly influences both domestic and foreign policy by constantly reporting only bad news about Christians, Conservatives and Republicans and only good news about atheists, liberals and democrats. The agenda of the Atheistic liberal news media is to promote extreme environmentalism, socialism, feminism, pornography, abortion, homosexuality and the Atheistic Lifestyle by having democrats in control of government.

I have been gone for two-and-a-half months and you are still repeating this?

Clirus, if you want to start convincing people, start substantiating your argument.

 

[Axioma]

You know, it's a good thing Republicans never suggested that to question the President is unamerican and unpatriotic, otherwise this would smell of hypocrisy.