United in error about God's commands, There is NO covenant with the gentiles anywhere in the bible!

[SAAN]

With all the back and forth about the Sabbath, Feast Days, and a few more topics that usually divide many on here, alot of people always resort to THE GENTILES AREN'T COMMANDED OR HAVE TO DO X,Y,Z.


There is no covenant anywhere in the entire bible made with the gentiles, The New Covenant was for Israel and the gentiles are grafted in. There is no such thing as rules for Jews that believe in Jesus and rules for gentiles that believe in Jesus. Its the same commands we keep, outside the one ones that cant be kept because they dont apply to you (i.e your not a king, priest, woman, etc)


Jeremiah 31:31-34 (NKJV)
A New Covenant
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says theLord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

Stop using Paul's writings out of context to prove points that are false.

Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the dietary laws.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath Days ( Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles, etc)
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the laws of God and never abolished them the way modern Christianity does or say they arent needed.


Most of what we do now as Christians is out of tradition or misunderstanding of scriptures. While done with a good heart, many need to realize what is just passed down tradition done with good intentions and what is biblical.

So lets stop saying the Gentiles arent commanded to or dont have to do XYZ, because the gentiles are grafted int Israel when they are saved and have the same commands.

 

[brinny]

Hi Saan. I'm a Gentile, grafted in, and my eyes are on our Redeemer, our Savior, and i'm inexplicably thankful to his mercy and His grace, for i deserve none of it.

I am attempting to process your post, brother.

God bless you.

Thank you kindly.

 

[Steeno7]

Since you seem to think those who understand we are not under the Law are the ones taking what Paul says out of context, here is Paul entirely in context;


Galatians 3-4

Faith Brings Righteousness

You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “The righteous man shall live by faith.” However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “He who practices them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”—in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Intent of the Law

Brethren, I speak in terms of human relations: even though it is only a man’s covenant, yet when it has been ratified, no one sets it aside or adds conditions to it. Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ. What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise.

Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Sonship in Christ

Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything, but he is under guardians and. managers until the date set by the father. So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world. But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.

However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years. I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.

I beg of you, brethren, become as I am, for I also have become as you are. You have done me no wrong; but you know that it was because of a bodily illness that I preached the gospel to you the first time; and that which was a trial to you in my bodily condition you did not despise or loathe, but you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself. Where then is that sense of blessing you had? For I bear you witness that, if possible, you would have plucked out your eyes and given them to me. So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? They eagerly seek you, not commendably, but they wish to shut you out so that you will seek them. But it is good always to be eagerly sought in a commendable manner, and not only when I am present with you. My children, with whom I am again in labor until Christ is formed in you— but I could wish to be present with you now and to change my tone, for I am perplexed about you.

Bond and Free

Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the bondwoman and one by the free woman. But the son by the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and the son by the free woman through the promise. This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants: one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar. Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother. For it is written,

“Rejoice, barren woman who does not bear;
Break forth and shout, you who are not in labor;
For more numerous are the children of the desolate
Than of the one who has a husband.”

And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise. But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also. But what does the Scripture say?

“Cast out the bondwoman and her son,
For the son of the bondwoman shall not be an heir with the son of the free woman.”

So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.

 

[SAAN]

Since you seem to think those who understand we are not under the Law are the ones taking what Paul says out of context, here is Paul entirely in context;


Galatians 3-4

Faith Brings Righteousness

You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain—if indeed it was in vain? So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

Even so Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “The righteous man shall live by faith.” However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “He who practices them shall live by them.” Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”—in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Intent of the Law

Brethren, I speak in terms of human relations: even though it is only a man’s covenant, yet when it has been ratified, no one sets it aside or adds conditions to it. Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ. What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise.

Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Sonship in Christ

Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is owner of everything, but he is under guardians and. managers until the date set by the father. So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world. But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.

However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods. But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? You observe days and months and seasons and years. I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain.

I beg of you, brethren, become as I am, for I also have become as you are. You have done me no wrong; but you know that it was because of a bodily illness that I preached the gospel to you the first time; and that which was a trial to you in my bodily condition you did not despise or loathe, but you received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus Himself. Where then is that sense of blessing you had? For I bear you witness that, if possible, you would have plucked out your eyes and given them to me. So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? They eagerly seek you, not commendably, but they wish to shut you out so that you will seek them. But it is good always to be eagerly sought in a commendable manner, and not only when I am present with you. My children, with whom I am again in labor until Christ is formed in you— but I could wish to be present with you now and to change my tone, for I am perplexed about you.

Bond and Free

Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the bondwoman and one by the free woman. But the son by the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and the son by the free woman through the promise. This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants: one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar. Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother. For it is written,

“Rejoice, barren woman who does not bear;
Break forth and shout, you who are not in labor;
For more numerous are the children of the desolate
Than of the one who has a husband.”

And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise. But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also. But what does the Scripture say?

“Cast out the bondwoman and her son,
For the son of the bondwoman shall not be an heir with the son of the free woman.”

So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.

I no where said anyone is Under the Law, because Christ removed the curse of the law when he died on the cross. When your faith is trying to get salvation by commandment keeping and not accepting Christ as your savior, that is when the law becomes a curse, because you are rejecting Christ and have fallen from grace. Since the NT was every written back then yet, its clear that they were saved by faith as well in the OT.

Faith without works is dead. If you believe in Jesus, but your life is a life of lawlessness (sexual immorality, lies, stealing, drunkenness), your faith is as good as dead.

James 2:14-26 (NKJV)
Faith Without Works Is Dead
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Matthew 7:21-23 (NKJV)
I Never Knew You
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

 

[Steeno7]

I no where said anyone is Under the Law

Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the dietary laws.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath Days ( Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles, etc)
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the laws of God and never abolished them the way modern Christianity does or say they arent needed.

So we aren't under the Law, we just have to do everything the Law demands of those who are under it. Got it.

 

[SAAN]

So we aren't under the Law, we just have to do everything the Law demands of those who are under it. Got it.

Why does obeying Gods command put you under the law?

I dont steal, kill, get drunk, Im following the sexual laws of conduct outlined in Lev 18, I try follow the dietary laws of Lev 11 to the best of my abilities, even though I might have a pepperoni pizza once every 3-4 months or ribs 1-2 times a year, I dont worship other Gods, or commit Idolatry...etc, but I dont see this as putting myself under the law, but rather just obeying Gods commands.

I may not be perfect at it, as no one is, but atleast I try to obey God rather than say, since I cant do it perfectly, why bother to try at all.

 

[Soyeong]

The law is what tells us what sin is, so if Paul says we are not to sin, then he is saying that we are not to break the law. The rest of Galatians 5:19-23 is talking about characteristics that are instructed for and again in the law, so again we're to act in accordance with the law. Galatians 6:1 instructs us to help thought who are caught in sin, so again, we're to act in accordance with the law. Clearly, Paul by saying that we are not under the law, Paul is not meaning that we aren't to act in accordance with it.

 

[Steeno7]

Why does obeying Gods command put you under the law?

I dont steal, kill, get drunk, Im following the sexual laws of conduct outlined in Lev 18, I try follow the dietary laws of Lev 11 to the best of my abilities, even though I might have a pepperoni pizza once every 3-4 months or ribs 1-2 times a year, I dont worship other Gods, or commit Idolatry...etc, but I dont see this as putting myself under the law, but rather just obeying Gods commands.

I may not be perfect at it, as no one is, but atleast I try to obey God rather than say, since I cant do it perfectly, why bother to try at all.

Thank God there is One who has done it perfectly. Thank you Jesus.

 

[Steeno7]

The law is what tells us what sin is, so if Paul says we are not to sin, then he is saying that we are not to break the law. The rest of Galatians 5:19-23 is talking about characteristics that are instructed for and again in the law, so again we're to act in accordance with the law. Galatians 6:1 instructs us to help thought who are caught in sin, so again, we're to act in accordance with the law. Clearly, Paul by saying that we are not under the law, Paul is not meaning that we aren't to act in accordance with it.

The Law not only tells you what sin is, but it also tells us that we are sinners. And it does so to lead us to Christ. So that Christ, the Perfect One, can lead us from within. And those led by the Spirit of Christ are not under the Law, Gal. 5:18.

 

[Soyeong]

The Law not only tells you what sin is, but it also tells us that we are sinners. And it does so to lead us to Christ. So that Christ, the Perfect One, can lead us from within. And those led by the Spirit of Christ are not under the Law, Gal. 5:18.

Does the Perfect One lead us to sin? By no means, He leads us to act in accordance with the law. As I explained in what your responded to, clearly saying that we are not under the law does not mean that we aren't supposed to act in accordance with its instructions.

 

[Steeno7]

Does the Perfect One lead us to sin? By no means, He leads us to act in accordance with the law. As I explained in what your responded to, clearly saying that we are not under the law does not mean that we aren't supposed to act in accordance with its instructions.

What is clear is that we who are led by the Spirit are not under the Law. That means you can stop acting.

 

[SAAN]

What is clear is that we who are led by the Spirit are not under the Law. That means you can stop acting.

I think we have a big disconnect here.

To you, being under the law means attempting to follow God commands, so any mention of trying to keep Gods commands all though we wont be perfect at it means your putting yourself under the law.

To me, being under the law means you are under the penalty of the law for breaking God's commands and now are under grace to repent of that sin. While not perfect at keeping the commands, I see myself under grace when I do break, not being under the law by trying to keeps the commands of God, but rather obedience since God commands us to keep his commands.

Cant live by the spirit if you have no regards for the commands of the one the spirit is coming from.

 

[Soyeong]

What is clear is that we who are led by the Spirit are not under the Law. That means you can stop acting.

It's fine to say that those who are led by the Spirit are not under the law, but if you don't understand the phrase "not under the law", then it doesn't get you anywhere. In the verses afterwards afterward in Galatians 5:19-23 and 6:1, Paul is encouraging people to act in accordance with the law, so "not under the law" doesn't mean "not in accordance with the law". The role of the Spirit is to lead us in obedience to the law, so those who are walking with the Spirit obey the law.

 

[Steeno7]

I think we have a big disconnect here.

To you, being under the law means attempting to follow God commands, so any mention of trying to keep Gods commands all though we wont be perfect at it means your putting yourself under the law.

To me, being under the law means you are under the penalty of the law for breaking God's commands and now are under grace to repent of that sin. While not perfect at keeping the commands, I see myself under grace when I do break, not being under the law by trying to keeps the commands of God, but rather obedience since God commands us to keep his commands.

Cant live by the spirit if you have no regards for the commands of the one the spirit is coming from.

I think you have a big disconnect for sure. This is all a road we have been down before.

 

[Steeno7]

It's fine to say that those who are led by the Spirit are not under the law, but if you don't understand the phrase "not under the law", then it doesn't get you anywhere. In the verses afterwards afterward in Galatians 5:19-23 and 6:1, Paul is encouraging people to act in accordance with the law, so "not under the law" doesn't mean "not in accordance with the law". The role of the Spirit is to lead us in obedience to the law.

To not be under the Law, is to not be under the Law. Doesn't get any more plain simple than that. But apparently plain and simple is still too complicated for you??

 

[Soyeong]

To not be under the Law, is to not be under the Law. Doesn't get any more plain simple than that. But apparently plain and simple is still too complicated for you??

I suppose you'd find it helpful to have a dictionary that defined everything as "this means what this means".

If we were set free from all parts of the law, then there would be no problem with sinning, but Christians aren't supposed to sin, so because the law instructs us about what sin is, clearly we are still required to follow that part of the law. Paul specified that we died to the part of the law that that held us in captivity, which does not include instructions for how to have a conduct that is righteous and holy that the Spirit leads us to have.

 

[Steeno7]

I suppose you'd find it helpful to have a dictionary that defined everything as "this means what this means".

If we were set free from all parts of the law, then there would be no problem with sinning, but Christians aren't supposed to sin, so because the law instructs us about what sin is, clearly we are still required to follow that part of the law. Paul specified that we died to the part of the law that that held us in captivity, which does not include instructions for how to have a conduct that is righteous and holy that the Spirit leads us to have.

Paul testified that he and we died to the Law. The "parts" thing is your own addition. It is specifically because we have died with Christ that we are free from the Law.

 

[Frogster]

With all the back and forth about the Sabbath, Feast Days, and a few more topics that usually divide many on here, alot of people always resort to THE GENTILES AREN'T COMMANDED OR HAVE TO DO X,Y,Z.


There is no covenant anywhere in the entire bible made with the gentiles, The New Covenant was for Israel and the gentiles are grafted in. There is no such thing as rules for Jews that believe in Jesus and rules for gentiles that believe in Jesus. Its the same commands we keep, outside the one ones that cant be kept because they dont apply to you (i.e your not a king, priest, woman, etc)


Jeremiah 31:31-34 (NKJV)
A New Covenant
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says theLord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

Stop using Paul's writings out of context to prove points that are false.

Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the dietary laws.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath Days ( Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles, etc)
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the laws of God and never abolished them the way modern Christianity does or say they arent needed.


Most of what we do now as Christians is out of tradition or misunderstanding of scriptures. While done with a good heart, many need to realize what is just passed down tradition done with good intentions and what is biblical.

So lets stop saying the Gentiles arent commanded to or dont have to do XYZ, because the gentiles are grafted int Israel when they are saved and have the same commands.

 

[Soyeong]

Paul testified that he and we died to the Law. The "parts" thing is your own addition. It is specifically because we have died with Christ that we are free from the Law.

Romans 7:6 But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

Paul specified that we died that that which held us captive. Instructions for how to have a righteous and holy conduct never held us captive, but rather our sin nature's mastery over us prevented us from having a righteous and holy conduct, so Christ died to set us free so that we could become obedient children of God.

 

[Frogster]

With all the back and forth about the Sabbath, Feast Days, and a few more topics that usually divide many on here, alot of people always resort to THE GENTILES AREN'T COMMANDED OR HAVE TO DO X,Y,Z.


There is no covenant anywhere in the entire bible made with the gentiles, The New Covenant was for Israel and the gentiles are grafted in. There is no such thing as rules for Jews that believe in Jesus and rules for gentiles that believe in Jesus. Its the same commands we keep, outside the one ones that cant be kept because they dont apply to you (i.e your not a king, priest, woman, etc)


Jeremiah 31:31-34 (NKJV)
A New Covenant
31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says theLord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

Stop using Paul's writings out of context to prove points that are false.

Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the dietary laws.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath.
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the Sabbath Days ( Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles, etc)
Jesus, the disciples, and Paul all kept the laws of God and never abolished them the way modern Christianity does or say they arent needed.


Most of what we do now as Christians is out of tradition or misunderstanding of scriptures. While done with a good heart, many need to realize what is just passed down tradition done with good intentions and what is biblical.

So lets stop saying the Gentiles arent commanded to or dont have to do XYZ, because the gentiles are grafted int Israel when they are saved and have the same commands.

Red above, it just so happens, that GENTILE ABRAHAM, got the Gospel waaaaayyyyy back in Gen 12:3, and it was about ALL NATIONS, that means Gentiles. Rom 4:12 says, that even the Jews have to walk as Abe walked, PRE-circumcision, pre-law, pre-Judaism, pre "house of Israel or Judah!. There ya go, more on the way..