Unforgiveable sin

Gregory Thompson · Aug 20, 2019

Maria Billingsley said:
Well that would be rejecting the Gospel.
Blessings

In context of a gospel that includes signs and wonders as illustrated in the below passage.
Ro 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

zoidar · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
Hello but what do you mean whit turn back? Because I want to be whit Jesus but do I have to turn back or what?

If you blaspheme the Holy Spirit you are no longer interested in being with Jesus. You leave him for good, that is why it's unforgivable.

Skawk” · Aug 20, 2019

zoidar said:
If you blaspheme the Holy Spirit you are no longer interested in being with Jesus. You leave him for good, that is why it's unforgivable.

so I I did not do it because i still want to be whit Jesus

zoidar · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
so I I did not do it because i still want to be whit Jesus

Exactly!

DM Murphy · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
hello I wonder if I have done the unforgivable sin. I wanted to say I love the holy spirit but I said I love my holy spirit. I said it more ignorantly and accidentally because now I no longer know exactly how and what I said it and whether I really said it or thought it. I had read somewhere that the unforgivable sin is to claim that you are god or are better of god. I am now a little worried that I have done the unforgivable sin and I really do not want that I love God I love Jesus and the holy spirit. it seems like I said it in a disastrous and accidental way and I didn't mean it. I really love god so much. and i would never really believe that i am better than god.

Hey Kian-vg,
Rest assured, the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32) is not misappropriating words. We all mess up, come of us constantly. Jesus is stronger than any slip up you may commit. Think about it this way, if you didn't have to say special words to be saved by God, then misspoken words aren't likely to separate you!
Romans 8:38-39 (NIV)
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Kaccy · Aug 20, 2019

If you are seeking and even worried about committing the unpardonable sin, I can promise you with 100% certainty that you HAVE NOT. I spent two years in severe depression, worried, terrified that I had. It is a lie. You hunger for God. It shows by you posting here. You have not, I promise you, you have not. I pray that if you are feeling any hopelessness, depression, oppression, fear...God, I pray that you send your Holy Spirit to comfort, heal, restore, rebuild, renew, and anoint each person reading this. God, you said what we bind on earth is bound in heaven. Whatsoever I loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. I bind every lying spirit, every oppressing spirit, every demonic spirit, no matter what they are. I loose peace, the anointing, the deliverance power to set each one free. l pray that the manifest power of Jesus Christ that has set me free also set each one of them free! In the name of Jesus! AMEN! You are okay.

DM Murphy · Aug 20, 2019

Beautiful response Kaccy!

aiki · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
hello I wonder if I have done the unforgivable sin.

No, you haven't. You aren't a first-century Pharisee accusing Jesus of casting out demons by the power of the devil. You didn't speak such a thing from a heart of hypocrisy, jealousy and pride as the Pharisees did. So, no, you haven't committed the "unforgivable sin."

Kian-vg said:
I had read somewhere that the unforgivable sin is to claim that you are god or are better of god.

No, this isn't the "unforgivable sin" - though it might lead to it. Read Matthew 12:22-32.

Kian-vg said:
I am now a little worried that I have done the unforgivable sin and I really do not want that I love God I love Jesus and the holy spirit.

If this is so, why are you worried about the "unforgivable sin"? Could it be that you are not confident in God's love for you? Perhaps you think you can undo God's salvation of you? Maybe you think God is like a human who only loves when He is loved in the way He wants to be loved? It might be that your small view of God, of His infinite love for you, is your problem, not the "unforgivable sin."

Read 1 John 4:16-19

Skawk” · Aug 20, 2019

aiki said:
If this is so, why are you worried about the "unforgivable sin"? Could it be that you are not confident in God's love for you? Perhaps you think you can undo God's salvation of you? Maybe you think God is like a human who only loves when He is loved in the way He wants to be loved? It might be that your small view of God, of His infinite love for you, is your problem, not the "unforgivable sin."

I was worried that I did the unforgivable sin

aiki · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
I was worried that I did the unforgivable sin

Yes, I understood that, which is why I wrote what I did to you.

Do you realize now that you haven't committed the "unforgivable sin"?

lsume · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
hello I wonder if I have done the unforgivable sin. I wanted to say I love the holy spirit but I said I love my holy spirit. I said it more ignorantly and accidentally because now I no longer know exactly how and what I said it and whether I really said it or thought it. I had read somewhere that the unforgivable sin is to claim that you are god or are better of god. I am now a little worried that I have done the unforgivable sin and I really do not want that I love God I love Jesus and the holy spirit. it seems like I said it in a disastrous and accidental way and I didn't mean it. I really love god so much. and i would never really believe that i am better than god.

I don’t think you committed the unforgivable sin as you still love God The Father. That would not be possible without Perfect Love Only obtained by The Holy Spirit.

Kenny'sID · Aug 20, 2019

PizzaAddict said:
Unforgivable sin is denying Holy Spirit and his conviction of you when he tries to save you and seal you. You do it by rejecting gospel after understanding it and it's willfully. For Christian it's not possible to do so.

No, it's not.

Or, will you show me where the scriptures say that is a fact?

Michael Collum said:
The scripture talks about the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

What you said is not mentioned at all.

It's actually a doctrine that has been wafting around conservative churches lately to direct people's eyes away from their blaspheming the Holy Spirit against other denominations.

Can't recall them now, but it seems there are other false explanations as well, problem is, not one person here can show scripture that disagrees with your definition, or proves theirs, and if they cannot, logic tells us you are correct.

As far as your reasoning why the false explanation/explanations exist, you may be on to something there. Another thing that concerns me, why people aren't checking to see if some of what is preached, is accurate...what else are they getting wrong because they didn't look into things for themselves?

Skawk” · Aug 20, 2019

aiki said:
Yes, I understood that, which is why I wrote what I did to you.

Do you realize now that you haven't committed the "unforgivable sin"?

Yes I know I did not do it

Skawk” · Aug 20, 2019

So you know you did not do the unforgiveable sin if you still care about God and love him and still pray etc

Semper-Fi · Aug 20, 2019

blasphemes against the Holy Spirit:
it is blaspheme associated with attributing
the works Jesus did using the Holy Spirit
[the power of God] to that of demons.

Kenny'sID · Aug 20, 2019

Truth alert!

Mathew 2:24 IS an unforgivable sin being committed. There are several ways to do it, but it's still nothing but that, and nowhere else in the bible is the unforgivable sin mentioned. Also, when Christ explains that is an unforgivable sin in Mathew 2:31-32, he also states but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, meaning, not only was Mathew 2:24 an example of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, but also, anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, making that the basic blasphemy.

Here is the example Christ is speaking of:

Mathew 2:24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”

They claimed the healing was of the devil, and not of the Holy Spirit (The thing they spoke against the holy spirit)

Mathew 2:25
Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

29 “Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.

Now for what may be the 2 most important verses here, where Christ tells what the Blasphemy is, and what will happen if we commit it:

30 “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Even speaking ill of Christ himself will be forgiven but doing so against
Holy spirit will not.

So that boils it down to just this, and this alone:

Blasphemy of the Holy spirit is speaking against the holy spirit, nothing more, nothing less.

Got it?

Now, if you are one who is teaching the Holy Spirit is something other than what the bible very clearly says it is, I can't say for certain it is, but I would have to wonder if that in itself isn't Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit? If we do that, we are, at the very least, saying Jesus is not correct and teaching others to not even know what the true unforgivable sin is, not at all good. So it seems to me, that would at least come very close to being a serious problem for God. Think about it.

If anyone can disprove what I have done my best to explain, and you have the scripture to back it up, I'd be happy to take a look at the scripture you present in order to prove your point. Fair enough?

Kenny'sID · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
So you know you did not do the unforgiveable sin if you still care about God and love him and still pray etc

If I were you, Id ask the one who told you that, where is the scripture that proves what they claim is true. The scriptures are the only way to be sure something is biblical. It's good to listen to what people say, and it is very good to see if the bible agrees with them. I personally see nothing in scripture that backs that up.

I would actually be surprised that with all these wrong definitions of the Unforgivable Sin, you aren't completely confused at this point.

Skawk” · Aug 20, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
If I were you, Id ask the one who told you that, where is the scripture that proves what they claim is true. The scriptures are the only way to be sure something is biblical. It's good to listen to what people say, and it is very good to see if the bible agrees with them. I personally see nothing in scripture that backs that up.

I would actually be surprised that with all these wrong definitions of the Unforgivable Sin, you aren't completely confused at this point.

Yes I am confused I just want to know I did it or not! I love the holy spirit. What do you think did I speaker against the holy spirit? I really don't want to speak against the holy spirit I love the holy spirit. And never blasphemy it. But i said it unknowninly accidentally and I didn't mean it and I think it was my ocd. Because sometimes when I pray Im scared I sayed something bad in my prayers

Kenny'sID · Aug 20, 2019

Kian-vg said:
Yes I am confused I just want to know I did it or not! I love the holy spirit. What do you think did I speaker against the holy spirit? I really don't want to speak against the holy spirit I love the holy spirit. And never blasphemy it. But i said it unknowninly accidentally and I didn't mean it and I think it was my ocd. Because sometimes when I pray Im scared I sayed something bad in my prayers

Seems at least everyone agrees you did not so I wouldn't worry about that, but as for some of the definitions being given here for "Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" you'll need to double check us all against what the bible says it is. See, if we understand exactly what the bible says on a issue, we can better figure out for ourselves if there even is an issue.

Since you have an answer to you basic question, in that you are not guilty, I suppose my advice is more for future reference, and so you don't believe everything you hear to be true just because someone says it is.

Skawk” · Aug 20, 2019

Kenny'sID said:
Seems at least everyone agrees you did not so I wouldn't worry about that, but as for some of the definitions being given here for "Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" you'll need to double check us all against what the bible says it is. See, if we understand exactly what the bible says on a issue, we can better figure out for ourselves if there even is an issue.

Since you have an answer to you basic question, in that you are not guilty, I suppose my advice is more for future reference, and so you don't believe everything you hear to be true just because someone says it is.

So I didn't do it that's just the thing I want to know...

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