it doesnt say that the pharisees blasphemed the holyspirit. yet they did blaspheme. it says in verse 28 that you can blaspheme and still be forgiven, any blasphemy at all except that of blasphemy of the holyghost.
people say a christian couldnt do this.
they say "well if they really chose god, they wont turn back, if they really got saved, then they wouldnt be doing that anyway"
it is possible for a person to love god, and to later no longer love god. it is possible for a person to commit to god, really mean it, and then later to regret and turn away.
it is possible to change like that.
if a person who says they are a christian falls into sin and seeks sin and turns away from god. it doesnt neccesarily mean they were never saved.
because when we get saved we are not redeemed of our flesh.
the flesh is still present upon us, and it still "lusteth agaisnt the spirit" it hates the spirit.
a christian can be overcome by his flesh, which hates the spirit, enough that he turns away from the spirit, the one person you can never blaspheme.
if a christian can still sin, if he can choose to do evil, then he can also choose to do the ultamite evil and blaspheme the holyspirit.
god doesnt zombietise you and force you to follow him. you must "choose" life.
and the fact that flesh is still upon us, working agaisnt us, gives the oppurtunity to give in to it and turn away from the spirit.
so, just becuase you want him now, doesnt mean you always will, you flesh can dominate your desires.
hebrew 6.4-6 it is a clear and perfect picture of christians blaspheming the holyghost.
it goes into great detail trying to prove these are mature well rounded knowlegdable christians, very strong christians full of faith and knowlegde.
yet they "crucified TO THEMSELVES" jesus.
they themselves chose to turn away and throw down jesus christ.
and paul says these kind can never be "renewed (theyve been there before) to repentance".
lots of young christians say things and do things like " i dont want god anymore, this is crasy, this cant be true" ive met a few of them.
but god has mercy on those, they are young immature christians, they dont really know god, his word, or his power yet. god knows this and he has grace.
but my pastor, a very mature christian, if he ever turned and said "i dont beleive in god, i hate this, i dont want him" he knew god, he walked with god, he knows the word, he knows the power of god, then he, well me may never be able to come back.
becuase he is so much more responsible, and he knows fully what he is doing.
christ forgave his murderors becuase "they know not what they do" stephen also did.
i do not believe a person who isnt saved can blaspheme the holyghost and go beyond repentance. because we are judged according to our knowlegde, and they dont know god. they havent met god, they dont really know what they are doing.
and untill youve already been saved and met the holyspirit, i dont beleive you possibly could knowingly blaspheme him. becuase you dont really know him yet.
people say a christain cant, well i say ONLY CHRISTIANS CAN. becuase only christians know him. and your jugded according to your knowledge. there are stages of accountability, and unsaved people arent in those higher ones yet.
blaspheming the holyghost isnt speaking, it isnt something you say, or do.
it is the inward rebellion against and refusal of the holyghost to such an extreme that he is hurt or vexed so deeply that he no longer returns to you, basicly giving you what you wanted, which was "him to leave".
you cannot accidently do this, there is no need to fear it.
if you fear it it proves you want jesus, and if you want him, it wont happen. becuase those who ask receive.
it those who refuse to ask that blaspheme him.
some scholars say that
the people in hebrews 6 cant return because theyve expereinced it all and there is nothing left to draw them back, they already know it all. theres nothing they want to go back to.
to blaspheme the holyghost is so dangerouse because you cant come to god unless your drawn by the holyghost, and if the holyghost doesnt return to you, then you cant return to god.
but it is all your choice anyway.
ask and you shall recieve.
ask for the holyspirit to leave enough, and he will.
he is a gentelman. he wont beat your door down trying to come back.
they did this in hebrews 6.
"they have crucified to themselves" jesus.
they choose this. it was all their doing.
it is not a story of god forsaking one, and shutting the door on someone who wants in, but cant get in becuase of past sin.
god will never leave "one who hungers and thirsts" for him. hell never cast those away.
it is a story or picture of people who pushed god away, truely breaking his heart, and getting what they wanted.
does anyone here know of Roberts Lairdon?
this man was a minister of the gospel for years, he had a very succesful ministry, he was anointed, and was used in the gifts even. he was one of my faveorite preachers.
as of about 2 or 3 weeks ago "CHARISMA" magasine posted an article saying he had left the minstry and is in homosexuality.
that hurt me deeply.
the same as a year or so back my dear friend and mentor Ian Ackerson backslid.
it hurt.
Roberts was one of my moms faveorite ministers. i could tell she was hurt very deeply, more than me even.
for a brother like him, to be overcome and be defeated by the devil.
its sadening, but sobering as well. i must realise the devil is no chump hes not playing, he wants to devour me! picture the worst most horrible murder ever, THE DEVIL WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT TO YOU!
im no match for him unless im abiding in jesus.
i must stay in jesus, i must abide in him, and not stray, if i leave the shelter of his wings, i may very well lose it all.