could someone please explain to me more about the unforgivable sin- blasphemy against the holy spirit?
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unforgivable sin against the holy spirit
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EltronRangamma
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Hello.GrowingInHim said:
I have two variations of interpretations.
Blaspheming the spirit can only be done in the context of time. In other words, you can't blaspheme the Holy Spirit unless you firsthand witnessed Jesus performing miracles and attributed his miraculous work as sorcery or as the work of the devil.
Although, it can also mean that Blaspheming the HOly Spirit means a willful and conscious CHOICE to committ and embrace evil and reject anything that is right and just ... I can only think of two examples of individuals Blasppheming the Holy Spirit and they're Judas Iscariot and the Antichrist himself who has yet come on the world scene ...
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What about denying Jesus? That seems to be an unforgivable sin...without accepting Jesus as savior you will not enter heaven and if you are not a believer then God doesn't hear your prayers, so you cant be forgiven. To me blasphemying(sp?) the holy spirit is denouncing Jesus as Lord and savior. So it appears that MANY people other Judas and the anti-christ have blasphemed the holy spirit. Just my take.
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I dont think. Since im Calvinist there is no such thing as denying Jesus. If he comes to me of course I'm going to accept. Also if you were a non believer why would you be praying to God? If you were praying to God you would be a believer. I believe blaspheming the holy spirit would be like what Eltron said, calling the works of the Holy Spirit the work of the devil.jayswife29 said:
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There is only one unforgivable unredeemable sin A sin unto death that I am aware of.
That is, being born of the devils seed.
Having spent a few years in this area before God rescued me I was aware of the children of the devil {those born of the seed of the serpent} but it wasnt until several years later that I decided to see what was written in the Word about this.
For those who dont believe that there is a devil with a host of devil spirits on this earth to disrupt the movement of the Word, and hinder Gods people go ahead and keep your eyes closed but for those who believe the Word, know of the spiritual battle that is taking place around us daily. Not that we should focus on this for greater is He that is in you then he that is in the world {II Cor 4:4}. But you better be aware of who your adversary is, and how he operates, so when conflict does arise you know where it is coming from and how to handle it.
Most if not all of us here are born again of Gods incorruptible seed. This was accomplished by confessing Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. When we did that the great miracle of all times took place the new birth. No more a person of body and soul we now have spirit within. That spirit {holy spirit}is the gift, the promise of the Father, incorruptible seed.
Once you have seed you cannot loose it or change it, anymore then you can loose or change the physical seed from your natural birth. As I Peter 1:23 states that new birth seed liveth and abideth forever
Now just as you accepted Christ as your Lord there are those who have accepted the devil as their lord and confessed with their mouth that he is the true god, and thus be born of the seed of the devil. Seed is seed,, you cannot change it once you accept the devil as your true god you are born of the devils seed, of coarse it doesnt liveth and abideth forever like Gods seed; for we know that the end is coming for the god of this world.
Just to clarify: not everybody who is in satanic worship or who practice in the occult are seed many are not some are born again christians {obviously not walking in the light of their calling, and I use the word christians to distinguish between the two seeds. They are former christians born again of Gods seed} some are just a person of body and soul who have not made a commitment either way.
See I know that these people do exist and it would shock many of you to know who these people are, and in what positions they are in this world, but there are those who are thinking this is really far fetched; so lets look at scripture.
I am just going to point out a few things in the scripture which should be pretty much self explanatory.
Genesis points out the two seeds, the one of the woman which was Christ Galatians 3:16 and the seed of the serpent
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel
I John sets the distinction between forgivable and unforgivable sin. It does no good to pray for someone who is sinned unto death {seed of the devil}
I John 5:16 {17 & 18} not listed If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come
Mark 3:29 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luke 12:10b And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
Matthew , Mark and Luke set up this full account for us recorded in John, of whom Jesus is again speaking to the same scribes and Pharisees the ones who had committed the sin against the Holy Ghost. Note throughout this, that the eyes of there understanding are closed. People of the wrong seed will never understand spiritual truths.
John 8:12-44
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
13: The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
14: Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
15: Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
16: And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
17: It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18: I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
19: Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
20: These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
21: Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
22: Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23: And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24: I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25: Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26: I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27: They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
28: Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29: And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
30: As he spake these words, many believed on him
Verse 30 tells us why Jesus even bothered to teach. He obviously knew the Pharisees would not believe, but others were present which did believe
31: Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32: And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33: They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34: Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35: And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36: If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37: I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
they were Abrahams seed according to the flesh, their physical bloodline.
38: I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
note the mentioning of two different fathers
39: They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham
.
note: Jesus agrees in verse 37 that they were of Abrahams seed then in verse 39 he disputes that. Verse 37 refers to the bloodline verse 39 is speaking of Abrahamic believers.
40: But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
they just forgot to mention which god. Jesus proceeds to clarify that for them
42: Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43: Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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God bless
sandman
That is, being born of the devils seed.
Having spent a few years in this area before God rescued me I was aware of the children of the devil {those born of the seed of the serpent} but it wasnt until several years later that I decided to see what was written in the Word about this.
For those who dont believe that there is a devil with a host of devil spirits on this earth to disrupt the movement of the Word, and hinder Gods people go ahead and keep your eyes closed but for those who believe the Word, know of the spiritual battle that is taking place around us daily. Not that we should focus on this for greater is He that is in you then he that is in the world {II Cor 4:4}. But you better be aware of who your adversary is, and how he operates, so when conflict does arise you know where it is coming from and how to handle it.
Most if not all of us here are born again of Gods incorruptible seed. This was accomplished by confessing Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead. When we did that the great miracle of all times took place the new birth. No more a person of body and soul we now have spirit within. That spirit {holy spirit}is the gift, the promise of the Father, incorruptible seed.
Once you have seed you cannot loose it or change it, anymore then you can loose or change the physical seed from your natural birth. As I Peter 1:23 states that new birth seed liveth and abideth forever
Now just as you accepted Christ as your Lord there are those who have accepted the devil as their lord and confessed with their mouth that he is the true god, and thus be born of the seed of the devil. Seed is seed,, you cannot change it once you accept the devil as your true god you are born of the devils seed, of coarse it doesnt liveth and abideth forever like Gods seed; for we know that the end is coming for the god of this world.
Just to clarify: not everybody who is in satanic worship or who practice in the occult are seed many are not some are born again christians {obviously not walking in the light of their calling, and I use the word christians to distinguish between the two seeds. They are former christians born again of Gods seed} some are just a person of body and soul who have not made a commitment either way.
See I know that these people do exist and it would shock many of you to know who these people are, and in what positions they are in this world, but there are those who are thinking this is really far fetched; so lets look at scripture.
I am just going to point out a few things in the scripture which should be pretty much self explanatory.
Genesis points out the two seeds, the one of the woman which was Christ Galatians 3:16 and the seed of the serpent
Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel
I John sets the distinction between forgivable and unforgivable sin. It does no good to pray for someone who is sinned unto death {seed of the devil}
I John 5:16 {17 & 18} not listed If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32: And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come
Mark 3:29 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Luke 12:10b And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.
Matthew , Mark and Luke set up this full account for us recorded in John, of whom Jesus is again speaking to the same scribes and Pharisees the ones who had committed the sin against the Holy Ghost. Note throughout this, that the eyes of there understanding are closed. People of the wrong seed will never understand spiritual truths.
John 8:12-44
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
13: The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.
14: Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
15: Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
16: And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
17: It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18: I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.
19: Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
20: These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
21: Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
22: Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
23: And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
24: I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25: Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26: I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27: They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
28: Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29: And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
30: As he spake these words, many believed on him
Verse 30 tells us why Jesus even bothered to teach. He obviously knew the Pharisees would not believe, but others were present which did believe
31: Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32: And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
33: They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
34: Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
35: And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
36: If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
37: I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
they were Abrahams seed according to the flesh, their physical bloodline.
38: I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
note the mentioning of two different fathers
39: They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham
.
note: Jesus agrees in verse 37 that they were of Abrahams seed then in verse 39 he disputes that. Verse 37 refers to the bloodline verse 39 is speaking of Abrahamic believers.
40: But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41: Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
they just forgot to mention which god. Jesus proceeds to clarify that for them
42: Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43: Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
amen
God bless
sandman
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Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. Matt. 12:31.
I will address these lines to those who have had light, those who have had privileges, those who have had warnings and entreaties, who have made no determined effort to yield themselves in full surrender to God. I would warn you to fear lest you sin against the Holy Ghost, and be left to your own course, sunk in moral lethargy, and never obtain forgiveness. Why allow yourselves to be longer educated in the school of Satan, and pursue a course of action that will make repentance and reformation impossible? Why resist the overtures of mercy? Why say, "Let me alone," until God shall be compelled to give you your desire, since you will have it so?
Those who resist the Spirit of God think that they will repent at some future day, when they get ready to take a decided step toward reformation; but repentance will then be beyond their power. According to the light and privileges given will be the darkness of those who refuse to walk in the light while they have the light.
No one need look upon the sin against the Holy Ghost as something mysterious and indefinable. The sin against the Holy Ghost is the sin of persistent refusal to respond to the invitation to repent. If you refuse to believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, you love darkness rather than light, you love the atmosphere that surrounded the first great apostate. You choose this atmosphere rather than the atmosphere that surrounds the Father and the Son, and God allows you to have your choice. But let no soul be discouraged by this presentation of the matter. Let no one who is striving to do the will of the Master be cast down. Hope thou in God. The Lord Jesus has made it manifest that He regards you at an infinite estimation. He left His royal throne, He left His royal courts, He clothed His divinity with humanity, and died a shameful death upon the cross of Calvary, that you might be saved.
I will address these lines to those who have had light, those who have had privileges, those who have had warnings and entreaties, who have made no determined effort to yield themselves in full surrender to God. I would warn you to fear lest you sin against the Holy Ghost, and be left to your own course, sunk in moral lethargy, and never obtain forgiveness. Why allow yourselves to be longer educated in the school of Satan, and pursue a course of action that will make repentance and reformation impossible? Why resist the overtures of mercy? Why say, "Let me alone," until God shall be compelled to give you your desire, since you will have it so?
Those who resist the Spirit of God think that they will repent at some future day, when they get ready to take a decided step toward reformation; but repentance will then be beyond their power. According to the light and privileges given will be the darkness of those who refuse to walk in the light while they have the light.
No one need look upon the sin against the Holy Ghost as something mysterious and indefinable. The sin against the Holy Ghost is the sin of persistent refusal to respond to the invitation to repent. If you refuse to believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, you love darkness rather than light, you love the atmosphere that surrounded the first great apostate. You choose this atmosphere rather than the atmosphere that surrounds the Father and the Son, and God allows you to have your choice. But let no soul be discouraged by this presentation of the matter. Let no one who is striving to do the will of the Master be cast down. Hope thou in God. The Lord Jesus has made it manifest that He regards you at an infinite estimation. He left His royal throne, He left His royal courts, He clothed His divinity with humanity, and died a shameful death upon the cross of Calvary, that you might be saved.
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