Understanding the Book of Revelation: "Recapitulation"

BABerean2 said:

The only way you can make the above work is by ignoring the words of Christ in Matthew chapter 21.
He revealed that the "son" is the "heir" to the land, and that the kingdom would be taken from those who reject Him as the "chief cornerstone".

You are trying to give it back to those who reject Him.

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Different generations, BaB2.

The first element on the chart is the ten kings and little horn coming to power in Europe. I don't think that is far away. I am watching brexit. How about you?

BABerean2 said:

All man-made systems of interpretation are exposed not by the scripture quoted by its proponents, but by the scripture they must ignore to make it work.
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It would appear so...............

Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread
Matt 24:19

Matthew 24:19
Woe yet to those pregnant,
and to those giving suck in those the days
Mark 13:17
Woe yet to those pregnant,
and to those giving suck in those the days
Luke 21:23
Woe yet to those pregnant,
and to those giving suck in those days
for there shall be great distress on the land and wrath on this people;

Luke 23:
27 Followed yet to Him a vast multitude of the people and of women were. And grieve<2875> and wailed<2354> over Him.
28 Being-turned yet toward them Jesus said: "Daughters of-Jerusalem no be-lamenting<2799> upon Me, moreover for yourselves be-lamenting, and upon the children of ye.
29 That behold! Are coming Days in which they shall be declaring 'happy are the barren-ones, and the wombs which not generate, and breasts which not suckle.
30 Then they shall be beginning to be saying to the Mountains: 'Be falling on us'! and to the Hills 'Cover us'!
31 That if in this, the moist/ugrw <5200> wood/xulw <3586>, they are doing, in the dry/xhrw <3584> what may-be-becoming?
[Isaiah 4:4/Reve 18:19]

Luke 23:30 "..Mountains fall on us, hills cover us.."

Revelation 6:16
16 They called to the mountains and the rocks,
“Fall on us and hide us from the Face of Him Who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lambkin!
17For the great day of Their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
Also see: Rapture refuted

.........Meanwhile the horrors of famine grew still more melancholy and afflictive. The Jews, for want of food were at length compelled to eat their belts, their sandals, the skins of their shields, dried grass, and even the ordure of oxen. In the depth or this horrible extremity, a Jewess of noble family urged by the intolerable cravings of hunger, slew her infant child, and prepared it for a meal ;........

While famine continued thus to spread its destructive rage through the city, the Romans, after many ineffectual attempts, at length succeeded in demolishing part of the inner wall, possessed themselves of the great tower of Antonia, and advanced towards the Temple, which Titus, in a council of war had determined to preserve as an ornament to the empire,
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Revelation 6:6
And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "measure of grain/wheat a denari and three measures of barley a denari, and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring".

Revelation 9:6
And in those days the men shall be seeking the death, and not no shall be finding it;
and shall be desiring/yearning<1937> to be dying, and the death is fleeing from them.

BABerean2 said: ↑
Dr. Sam Storms is a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary, who abandoned the Dispensational doctrine taught by the school before he graduated.
Below he reveals the parallel structure of texts within the Book of Revelation.

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I just found another parallel.........
Revelation 16:17 and Revelation 21:6

Is earthly Jerusalem the "great city" in the Book of Revelation?
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Revelation 16:17
Then the seventh Messenger pours out His bowl<5357> into the air,
and a great Voice came out of the Sanctuary of the heaven from the Throne saying, “It hath become!"<1096>

Revelation 21:6
And He said to me, “It hath become!"<1096>
I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.
I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts.
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Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

The KJV translates Strong's G1096 in the following manner: be (255x), come to pass (82x), be made (69x), be done (63x), come (52x), become (47x), God forbid (with G3361) (15x), arise (13x), have (5x), be fulfilled (3x), be married to (3x), be preferred (3x), not translated (14x), miscellaneous (4x), variations of 'done' (2x).
G1096 γίνομαι (ginomai) occurs 709 times in 636 verses

1096. ginomai a prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb;
to cause to be ("gen"-erate), i.e. (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literal, figurative, intensive, etc.):--arise, be assembled, be(-come, -fall, -have self), be brought (to pass), (be) come (to pass), continue, be divided, draw, be ended, fall, be finished, follow, be found, be fulfilled, + God forbid, grow, happen, have, be kept, be made, be married, be ordained to be, partake, pass, be performed, be published, require, seem, be showed, X soon as it was, sound, be taken, be turned, use, wax, will, would, be wrought.

STRONGS NT 1096: γίνομαι
γίνομαι (in Ionic prose writings and in common Greek from Aristotle, on for Attic γίγνομαι); [imperfect ἐγινόμην]; future γενήσομαι; 2 aorist ἐγενόμην (often in 3 person singular optative γένοιτο; [participle γενάμενος, Luke 24:22 Tdf. edition 7]), and, with no difference in significance, 1 aorist passive ἐγενήθην, rejected by the Atticists (cf. Lob. ad Phryn., p. 108f; [Thomas Magister, Ritschl edition, p. 75, 6f]), not rare in later Greek, common in the Sept. (Acts 4:4; 1 Thessalonians 2:14; 1 Corinthians 15:10, etc.), imperative γενηθήτω (Matthew 6:10; Matthew 15:28, etc.); perfect γεγένημαι and γέγονα, 3 person plural γέγοναν L T Tr WH in Romans 16:7 and Revelation 21:6 (cf. [Tdf. Proleg., p. 124; WHs Appendix, p. 166; Sophocles Lexicon, p. 37f; Curtius, Das Verbum, 2:187]; Winers Grammar, 36 and 76f (73f); Mullach, p. 16; Buttmann, 43 (37f)), [participle γεγονώς]; pluperfect 3 person singular ἐγεγόνει (John 6:17 [not Tdf.]; Acts 4:22 [where L T Tr WH γεγόνει, cf. Winers Grammar, § 12, 9; Buttmann, 33 (29); Tdf.s note on the passage]); to become, and
1. to become, i. e. to come into existence, begin to be, receive being: absolutely, John 1:15, 30 (ἔμπροσθέν μου γέγονεν); John 8:58 (πρὶν Ἀβραὰμ γενέσθαι); 1 Corinthians 15:37 (τὸ σῶμα τὸ γενησόμενον); ἔκ τινος, to be born, Romans 1:3 (ἐκ σπέρματος Δαυΐδ); Galatians 4:4 (ἐκ γυναικός); Matthew 21:19 (μηκέτι ἐκ σοῦ καρπὸς γένηται, come from); of the origin of all things, Hebrews 11:3; διά τινος, John 1:3, 10. to rise, arise, come on, appear, of occurrences in nature or in life: as γίνεται βροντή, John 12:29; ἀστραπή, Revelation 8:5; σεισμός, [Revelation 6:12; 11:13]; Revelation 16:18; γαλήνη, Matthew 8:26; Mark 4:39; Luke 8:24; λαῖλαψ, Mark 4:37; γογγυσμός, Acts 6:1; ζήτησις, John 3:25 [followed by ἐκ of origin; στάσις καὶ ζήτησις], Acts 15:2 [Griesbach questions ζήτ., Rec. reads συζήτ.]; πόλεμος, Revelation 12:7; ἡ βασιλεία [or αἱ β.] κτλ., Revelation 11:15; Revelation 12:10; χαρά, Acts 8:8, and in many other examples. Here belong also the phrases γίνεται ἡμέρα it becomes day, day comes on, Luke 4:42; Luke 6:13; Luke 22:66; Acts 12:18; Acts 16:35; Acts 23:12; Acts 27:29, 33, 39; γ. ὀψέ evening comes, Mark 11:19, equivalent to γ. ὀψία, Matthew 8:16; Matthew 14:15, 23; Matthew 16:2 [T brackets WH reject the passage]; Matthew 26:20; Mark 14:17; John 6:16, etc.; πρωΐα, Matthew 27:1; John 21:4; νύξ, Acts 27:27 [cf. under the word ἐπιγίν. 2]; σκοτία, John 6:17 [not Tdf.]. Hence,
2. to become equivalent to to come to pass, happen, of events;
a. universally: Matthew 5:18; Matthew 24:6, 20, 34; Luke 1:20; Luke 12:54; Luke 21:28; John 1:28; John 13:19, etc.; τοῦτο γέγονεν, ἵνα etc. this hath come to pass that etc., Matthew 1:22; Matthew 21:4; Matthew 26:56; τὰ γενόμενα or γινόμενα, Matthew 18:31; Matthew 27:54; Matthew 28:11; Luke 23:48; [cf. τὰ γενόμενα ἀγαθά, Hebrews 9:11 L WH text Tr marginal reading]; τὸ γενόμενον, Luke 23:47; τὸ γεγονός, Mark 5:14; Luke 24:12 [T omits; L Tr brackets; WH reject the verse]; Acts 4:21; τὸ ῥῆμα τὸ γεγονός, Luke 2:15; τὰ μέλλοντα γίνεσθαι, Luke 21:36; Acts 26:22; τὴν ἀνάστασιν ἤδη γεγονέναι, 2 Timothy 2:18; θανάτου γενομένου a death having taken place (German nach erfolgtem Tode), Hebrews 9:15. μὴ γένοιτο, a formula especially frequent in Paul (and in Epictetus, cf. Schweigh. Index Graec. in Epictetus, p. 392), Far be it! God forbid! [cf. Morison, Exposition of Romans 3, p. 31f]: Luke 20:16; Romans 3:4, 6, 31; Romans 6:2, 15; Romans 7:7, 13; Romans 9:14; Romans 11:1, 11; 1 Corinthians 6:15; Galatians 2:17; Galatians 3:21 (equivalent to חָלִילָה, Joshua 22:29, etc.); cf. Sturz, De dial. Maced. etc., p. 204f; τί γέγονεν, ὅτι etc. what has come to pass, that etc. equivalent to for what reason, why? John 14:22 (τί ἐγένετο, ὅτι... Ecclesiastes 7:11 (Ecclesiastes 7:10); τί ἐστιν, ὡς etc., Euripides, Troad. 889).
b. Very common in the first three Gospels, especially that of Luke, and in the Acts, is the phrase καὶ ἐγένετο (וַיְהִי followed by וְ); cf. Winers Grammar, § 65, 4 e. [also § 44, 3 c.], and especially Buttmann, § 141, 6.
α. καὶ ἐγένετο καί with a finite verb: Mark 2:15 ([Tr text καὶ γίνεται], T WH καὶ γίν. [followed by the accusative and infinitive]); Luke 2:15 [R G L brackets Tr brackets]; Luke 8:1; 14:1; 17:11; 19:15; 24:15 [WH brackets καί]; followed by καὶ ἰδού, Matthew 9:10 [T omits καί before ἰδ.]; Luke 24:4.
β. much more often καί is not repeated: Matthew 7:28; Mark 4:4; Luke 1:23; [Luke 2:15 T WH], Luke 2:46; Luke 6:12; 7:11; 9:18, 33; 11:1; 19:29; 24:30.

matijevic said:

Before I start discussing the topic, I would like to remind you of Jesus' words: “ Elijah does indeed come first and will restore all things. And I tell you that Elijah has already come. Yet they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wanted.“ I find it appropriate because, sometimes, it seems to me, that we are putting much effort to disprove that Elijah did come or he will come, instead to admit that both sides are right!..................

However, the "fire from heaven" came down to earth for the first time about a 4000 thousand years ago, then a few centuries later, the third time in the days of the prophet Elijah. (Gen 19:24; Job 1:16; 1 Kings 18) This very third time is thematically most similar to the verses from Revelation. A miracle that Jehovah performed at Carmel should prove that he is the God who deserves worship, that Elijah is his prophet, and because of that people has an obligation to listen to the prophet who speaks in the name of the true God. (1 Kings 18: 21, 22 , 36, 37) Two-horned beast also wants by its miracle (and other wonders) to prove that it is the "prophet", it seduces and forces people to obey, and demands worship of the image of the wild beast. (Rev 19:20; 13: 14-17) So, probably from the events on Carmel we can learn more about the unusual fire. According to 1 Kings 18: 33-35 Elijah has prepared a sacrifice to Jehovah and poured a lot of water on the wood and all around the altar. After his prayer, " ...the fire of Jehovah fell from above and consumed the burnt offering, the pieces of wood, the stones, and the dust, and it licked up the water from the trench. " (verse 38) Is it coincidence that before the end of the Second World War the United States and Britain (and Canada, British dominion) have created a weapon that much resembles the "fire of Jehovah"? Is it a coincidence that the United States used the atomic bomb to impress allies and intimidate opponents in order that its vision and its role as a world leader may be accepted? I do not claim that Jehovah use nuclear energy at the time of Elijah (although it is possible), but I firmly believe that when God's word mentions celestial fire in Revelation 13:13, it prophetically points to the very nuclear weapons! Due to the thematic similarities that I mentioned, we have good reason to believe that the fire from above has a magnificent destructive power, while history confirms that the two-horned beast really caused fire to descend from the sky or the sun (solar fire is of a nuclear nature) to the earth. (Rev. 12: 1; 16: 8) Thus began the nuclear age. A few months later, something that will have an even greater impact on the world was created!“

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Hello and welcome to CF!
Good post concerning Elijah in 1 King........

1 King 18:
37 "Answer thou me YAHWEH! Answer thou me! and this people shall know that Thou YAHWEH the Elohiym. And Thou turn-around their heart backward"
38 And fire of YAHWEH is falling and is devouring the ascent-offering, and the woods and the stones and the soil and the waters which in trench is licked up. [REVELATION 20:9]

Jeremiah 17:27
But if you do not obey Me to keep the Sabbath day holy by not carrying any load as you come through the gates of Jerusalem on the Sabbath day,
then I will kindle an unquenchable fire in the gates of Jerusalem that will consume her fortresses.' ”

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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
Also see: Rapture refuted

Jeremiah 21:14
I will punish you as your deeds deserve, declares the LORD. I will kindle a fire in your forests that will consume everything around you.' ”

Revelation 8:7
and the first Messenger trumpets, and there came hail and fire, mingled with blood, and it was cast to the land, and the third of the trees was burnt up, and all the green grass was burnt up.

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Is it legitimate to call fire down from heaven like Elijah did?
Mar 24, 2011

Jim Bob said:

Let's say in your street there are some unrepentant atheists or even worse atheistic God mockers then would it be okay to call fire down from heaven so that they including their entire belongings are consumed by fire?
Actually this would create a lot of fear in the community and maybe some people would also repent. What do you think about this? Have you ever tried to call fire down from heaven?

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Luke 9:54
And his disciples James and John having seen, said,
'Sir, wilt Thou that we may command fire to come down from the heaven, and to consume them, even as Elijah did?'

Luke 12:49
Fire I came to be casting upon the Land, and any I am willing if already it was kindled.

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Revelation 8:5
And the Messenger has taken the franckincensor, and He crams-full it out of the Fire of the Altar, and he casts it into the Land
and became thunders and sounds and lightnings and quaking

Revelation 16:
8 And the fourth one pours out the bowl of him on the sun and it was given to him to scorch the men in Fire.
9 And are scorched the men with great heat and they blaspheme the name of the God, the One having the authority on these stripes
and not they repent to give to him glory

Revelation 20:9
And they ascended on the breadth of the Land and they surround the camp of the Saints and the City, the One having been loved.
And descended Fire from the God out of the Heaven and it devoured them.

Thank you littlelambofJesus, your commendation means a lot to me! I will do my best to justify kindness I have received! Baberen2, I agree with you 100 percent! Sorry if I said something confusing!

Sound of a whip.........sheep and oxen............

Nahum 3:2
A sound of a Whip, and sound of a quaking wheel, and horse galloping, and chariot leaping. A horseman mounting. And blazing sword, and flashing spear,
and many wounded and mass of corpses and there is no end to bodies. [Isaiah 28 "scourge"]

John 2:
14 and He found in the Temple those selling oxen and sheep and doves, and the money-changers sitting,
15 and having made a whip of small cords, He put all forth out of the temple, also the sheep, and the oxen; and of the money-changers he poured out the coins, and the tables he overthrew,
[Nahum 3:2/Revelation 18:11-13]

Revelation 18:11
And the merchants of the land are lamenting and are mourning over Her, that the cargo of them no-one is buying not-still 13 and cinnamon and incenses and attars and frankincense and wine and oil and flour and grain
and beasts and sheep and of horses and of chariots
and of bodies and souls of men.

matijevic said:

Nice to see interesting parallels between, IMO, 3 and half years of grace for Jerusalem and future 3 and half times of trampling the Holy City...
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Good point.
The main Jewish wars lasted about 3 and half yrs, 42 months of Jerusalem being trampled by the Rebels but the final Jewish Revolt/Rebellion didn't end until the fall of Masada in 70AD..........that would actually.

The siege and fall of Jerusalem took only about 5 months according to Josephus and what I believe is showing in Revelation

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
Also see: Rapture refuted

...............The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover. At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival and the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers...........

..............This memorable siege terminated on the eighth day of the ninth month, A.D. 70 : its duration was nearly five months, the Romans having invested the city on the fourteenth day of the fourth month, preceeding.

Revelation 9:5
And was given to them that not they should be killing them, but that they should be being tormented five months
And the torment of them as torment of a scorpion/skorpiou <4651>, whenever it should be striking a man;
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CHRONOLOGY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE WAR

Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62
Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66
Stage 3: The Campaign of Cestius Gallus and the Defeat of the Twelfth Legion: October-November 66
Stage 4: End of Collaborative Government, Priesthood ; General Flight: November 66 - March 67
Part 6: Vespasian Subdues Northern and Western Palestine: December 66 - December 68
Part 7: Three-way Power Struggle within Jerusalem After Roman Retreat: January 68 - May 70
Part 8: Romans Breach City Walls and Leave Jerusalem Desolate: May 10 - September 10, 70

The Jewish Zealot rebel stronghold of Masada was sieged and taken over the Romans in 73ad.

BABerean2 said:

"Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!"
The statement above is not in the book.
Get a copy of the book and read it for yourself.
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As I told you before, take it up with the site.......

It is concerning Josephus , the 1st century Jewish Wars, the Olivet Discourse and Revelation..............


[6] - Josephus has collected the chief of these portents together, and introduces his account by a reflection on the strangeness of that infatuation, which could induce his countrymen to give credit to impostors, and unfounded reports, whilst they disregarded the divine admonitions, confirmed, as he asserts they Were, by the following extraordinary signs :

1. "A meteor, resembling a sword, [7] hung over Jerusalem during one whole year." This could not be a comet, for it was stationary, and was visible for twelve successive months. A sword too, though a fit emblem for destruction, but ill represents a comet.

2. "On the eighth of the month Zanthicus, (before the feast of unleavened bread) at the ninth hour of the night, there shone round about the altar, and the circumjacent buildings of the temple, a light equal to the brightness of the day, which continued for the space of half an hour." This could not be the effect of lightning, nor of a vivid aurora borealis, for it was confined to a particular spoil and the light shone unintermittedly thirty minutes.

3. "As the High Priest were leading a heifer to the altar to be sacrificed, she brought forth a lamb, in the midst of the temple." Such is the strange account given by the historian. Some may regard it as a "Grecian fable," while others may think that they discern in this prodigy a miraculous rebuke of Jewish infidelity and impiety, for rejecting the ANTITYPICAL Lamb, who had offered Up Himself as an atonement, "once for all," and who, by thus completely fulfilling their design, had virtually abrogated the Levitical sacrifices. However this may be, the circumstances of the prodigy are remarkable. It did not occur in an obscure part of the city, but in the temple ; not at an ordinary time, but at the passover, the season of our LORD'S crucifixion in the presence, not of the vulgar merely, but of the High Priests and their attendants, and when they were leading the sacrifice to the altar.

4. "' About the sixth hour of the night, the eastern gate of the temple was seen to open without human assistance." When the guards informed the Curator of this event, he sent men to assist them in shutting it, who with great difficulty succeeded. -- This gate, as hath been observed already, 'Was of solid brass, and required twenty men to close it every evening. It could not have been opened by a "strong gust of wind," or a slight earthquake;" for Josephus says, it was secured by iron bolts And bars, which were let down into a large threshold; consisting of one entire stone." [8]

5. "Soon after the feast of the Passover, in various parts of the country, before the Setting of the sun, chariots and armed men were seen in the air, passing round about Jerusalem. " Neither could this portentous spectacle be occasioned by the aurora borealis, for it occurred before the setting of the sun ; or merely the fancy of a few villagers, gazing at the heavens, for it was seen in various parts of the country.

6. "At the subsequent feast of Pentecost, while the priests were going, by night, into the inner, temple to perform their customary ministrations, they first felt, as they said, a shaking, accompanied by an indistinct murmuring, and afterwards voices as of a multitude, saying, in a distinct and earnest manner, "LET US DEPART HENCE." This gradation will remind the reader of that awful transaction, which the feast of Pentecost *as principally instituted to commemorate. First, a shaking was heard ; this would naturally induce the priests to listen : an unintelligible murmur succeeds; this would more powerfully arrest their attention, and while it was thus awakened arid fixed, they heard, says Josephus, the voices as of a multitude, distinctly pronouncing the words "LET US DEPART HENCE." -- And accordingly, before the period for celebrating this feast returned, the Jewish war had commenced, and in the space of three years afterwards, Jerusalem was surrounded by the Roman army, the temple converted into a citadel, and its sacred courts streaming with the blood of human victims.

7. As the last and most fearful omen, Josephus relates that one Jesus, the son of Ananus, a rustic of the lower class, during the Feast of Tabernacles, suddenly exclaimed in the temple, "A voice from the east a voice from the west -- a voice from the four winds- a voice against Jerusalem and the temple -- a voice against bridegrooms and brides -- a voice against the whole people !" These words he incessantly proclaimed aloud both day and night, through all the streets of Jerusalem, for seven years and five months together, commencing at a time (A. D. 62) when the city was in a state of peace, and overflowing with prosperity, and terminating amidst the horrors of the siege. This disturber, having excited the attention of the magistracy, was brought before Albinus the Roman governor, who commanded that he should be scourged. But the severest stripes drew from him neither tears nor supplications. As he never thanked those who relieved, so neither did he complain of the injustice of those who struck him. And no other answer could the governor obtain to his interrogatories, but his usual denunciation of "Woe, woe to Jerusalem !" which he still continued to proclaim through the city, but especially during the festivals, when his manner became more earnest, and the tone of his voice louder. At length, on the commencement of the siege, he ascended the walls, and, in a more powerful voice than ever, exclaimed, "Woe, woe to this city, this temple, and this people !" And then, with a presentment of his own death, added," Woe, woe to myself "' he had scarcely uttered these words when a stone from one of the Roman engines killed him on the spot.

Such are the prodigies related by Josephus, and which, excepting the first, he places in the Year immediately preceding the Jewish war. Several of them are recorded also by Tacitus. Nevertheless, it ought to be observed, -that they are received by Christian writers cautiously, and with various degrees of credit. Those, however, who are most skeptical, and who resolve them into natural causes, allow the "superintendence of GOD to awaken his people by some of these means." Whatever the fact, in this respect, may be, it is clear that they correspond to our LORD'S prediction of "fearful sights, and great signs from heaven;" and ought to be deemed a sufficient answer to the objector, who demands whether any such appearances are respectably recorded.

The next prediction of our LORD related to the persecutions of his disciples : "They shall lay their hands on you (said he), and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake :" Luke xxi. 12. "and they shall deliver you up to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten :" Mark xiii. 9. "and some of You shall they CAUSE TO BE PUT TO DEATH."- Luke xxi. 16. In the very infancy of the Christian church, these unmerited and unprovoked cruelties began to be inflicted. -- Our LORD, and his forerunner John the Baptist, had already been put to death ; the Apostles Peter and John were first imprisoned, and then, together with the other Apostles, were scourged before the Jewish council ; Stephen after confounding the Sanhedrim with his irresistible eloquence, was stoned to death ; Herod Agrippa "stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church," beheaded James the brother of John, and again imprisoned Peter, designing to put him to death also ; St. Paul pleaded before the Jewish council at Jerusalem, and before Felix the Roman governor, who trembled on the judgment-seat, while the intrepid prisoner "reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come !" Two years afterwards he was brought before the tribunal of Festus (who had succeeded Felix in the government,) king Agrippa the younger being present, who, while the governor scoffed, ingenuously. acknowledged the force of the Apostle's eloquence, and, half convinced, exclaimed, "Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian." Lastly, he pleaded before the emperor Nero at Rome ; he was also brought with Silas before the rulers at Philippi, where both of them were scourged and imprisoned. Paul was likewise imprisoned two years in Judea, and afterwards twice at Rome, each time for the space of two years. He 'was scourged by the Jews five times, thrice beaten with rods, and owe stoned ; nay, he himself, before his conversion , was an instrument of fulfilling the predictions. St. Luke relates of him that "he made havoc of the church, entering into every house, and hating men and women, committed them to prison ; when they were put to death he gave his voice against them ; he punished them oft in every synagogue, and, persecuted them even into strange cities and to this agree his own declarations. (Vide Acts xxvi. 10, 11. Gal. i. 23.) At length, about two years before the Jewish war, the first general persecution commenced at the instigation of the emperor Nero, " who," says Tacitus, "inflicted upon the Christians punishments exquisitely painful ;" multitudes suffered a cruel martyrdom, amidst derision and insults, and among the rest the venerable Apostles St Peter and St. Paul

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Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread
Matt 24:7 Famines, quakes, pestilences...

Matthew 24:7 “For shall be being roused/raised<1453> nation against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and quakings in various places.

Luke 21:11 Great quakings and famines and pestilences in various places. They shall be being fearful-things<5400> as<5037>
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Luke 16 "Rich Man/Poor Man" parable.....The most misunderstood/misinterpreted Parable in the NT?
Verse 20 "Sores"

Revelation 16:
2 So the first went and poured out his bowl upon the earth, and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.
11 They blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and did not repent of their deeds.
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Visual Timeline of the Roman-Jewish War ARTchive

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
Also see: Rapture refuted

Our Lord adds "pestilences" likewise. Pestilence treads upon the heels of famine, it may therefore reasonably be presumed, that this terrible scourge accompanied the famines which have just been enumerated. History, however, particularly distinguishes two instances of this calamity, which occurred before the commencement of the Jewish war.

The first took place at Babylon about A. D. 40, and raged so alarmingly, that great multitudes of Jews fled from that city to Seleucia for safety, as hath been hinted already.
The other happened at Rome A.D. 65, and carried off prodigious multitudes. Both Tacitus and Suetonius also record, that similar calamities prevailed, during this period, in various parts of the Roman empire.

After Jerusalem was surrounded by the army of Titus, pestilential diseases soon made their appearance there to aggravate the miseries, and deepen the horrors of the siege. They were partly occasioned by the immense multitudes which were crowded together in the city, partly by the putrid effluvia which arose from the unburied dead, and partly from spread of famine.
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