Understanding Marilyn Manson

[morningstar2651]

The Marilyn Manson Lexicon

The symbolism of Manson's album titles, lyrics, artwork, etc. explained.

 

[anathema]

Brilliant... visionary... amazing...

I like him

 

[morningstar2651]

He is a genius. Many of his stage performances are symbolic of something about America that bothers him.

For example...
The show:
A woman with a pillow under her shirt to look pregnant irons a Nazi flag. She then aborts her pillow-fetus and wraps it in the flag and presents it to a television as a sacrifice.

What it means:
"If we didn't drive home the point about the facism of television and the way the American nuclear family sacrifices its children to this cheap, mind-numbing baby-sitter, at least we looked good trying." -- Marilyn Manson

 

[jarshwoo]

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[something from the fridge]

dude, did you even bother to look at the link or read anything in the thread. no one said he was christian

as for smells like children - according to the site, if you bothered to click it

A children's album for someone who's no longer a child... and a brilliant look on the culture of abuse, Smells Like Children is an EP that is often underrated. Although it is filled with bizarre sound experiments, in it was a concept album that was rarely heard as intended, and to some, never really finished.

 

[jarshwoo]

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[The Theory]

And what happens to him happens to him.

Until then, he is an extremely intelligent (in scholarly sense, not a religious way) person who makes some bloody good music.

 

[philN]

Jarshwoo-
No one said he was a christian. No one said that his songs should be sung in churches.

I think everyone here knows what's going to happen to him.

And what happens to him happens to him.

Until then, he is an extremely intelligent (in scholarly sense, not a religious way) person who makes some bloody good music.

 

[MoreInSorrow]

Jarshwoo,

Take a breath. Count to 10. Now, go get an icepack and put it on your head, to nurse the bruise from beating yourself over the head with your bible.

 

[something from the fridge]

Your right he is not a Christian. but this is a Christian site and there was a Christian that stated he was brilliant and amazing.

and this is the secular music section. non-christian stuff

 

[anathema]

Leave it to jarshwoo to poke his head in here and kick us all in the face with self-righteousness.

 

[morningstar2651]

Did you know that Marilyn Manson's second album is titled "Smells like Children". He named his album with the intent of saying its ok to molest children. How is this Christian.

On his first album he had a song called "Cake and Sodomy" Do you know what sodomy is. It is a homo-sexual practice.

We shouldn't be promoting sick lyrical content as Christians. What do you think your church congregation would say if they saw these lyrics?

When we become Christians we need to live in the light or the dark. There isn't any in between zone. You can listen to whatever you want but what message are we advertising when we listen and promote this kind of music. What fellowship does the light have with the dark?

1.) I'm not a Christian, so I guess that means I can promote his "sick lyrical content" all I want.

2.) Cake & Sodomy is about the televangelist Pat Robertson asking for money on a television channel next to a channel with a man lubing himself up with vaseline and asking for money.

For Manson, Cake and Sodomy was "an anthem for a hypocritical America slobbering on the *** of Christianity, it was a blueprint for our message. If televangelists were going to make the world seem so wicked, I was going to give them something real to cry about." As he recalled in Long Hard Road out of Hell that prophecy came true. Pat Robertson quoted the song's lyrics on The 700 Club.

...he is a pagan idolater...

No, he's not.

 

[jarshwoo]

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[MoreInSorrow]

You have been Blessed and Forgiven

You need to find a little balance there, jarshwoo. To forgive someone in this forum is a bit presumptuous, seeing as what is being bantered about are opinions. That's a bit like removing the splinter in someone else's eye, don't you think?

 

[morningstar2651]

We are in the Light not the dark.

Not all Christians are light -- thats the whole point of the song Cake & Sodomy. Manson is singing about Christian hypocrites who say one thing but do another.

If you aren't a Christian you are a Pagan.

If you aren't a Christian then you are a non-Christian, Pagan means something else entirely -- A believer in Paganism or Neopaganism.

What Does Christian Forums mean to everyone.

Fellowship.

I do not persecute you, Jarshwoo, I only try to show the unclouded truth about Marilyn Manson.

 

[morningstar2651]

I've seen some absurd defamatory propaganda about Marilyn Manson that was spread by the American Family Association.

These forged affidavits cite actions such as bestiality, child molestation, and orgies on stage -- all false.

From the journal of Marilyn Manson:

Oct. 22, 1996 - Toronto
Someone called in a death threat today. They said they were going to bomb the building and its occupants with mustard gas. Is that some sort of condiment? I guess I give them credit for being creative. And obviously I'm still here.

February 4, 1997 - Lubbock, Texas
God has somehow managed to find his way into the Hippocratic oath because the paramedics here refused to treat me with oxygen for exhaustion after our performance explaining that they didn't agree with my morality, therefore I didn't deserve their emergency life-preserving skills. Apparently Jesus saves, but the paramedics here don't.

Undated
The ironinc part about all this Christian outrage is that on certain levels this tour pales compared to some of the things that we've done in the past. The Christians are complaining about the way I compare them to Nazis. They're not complaining about me tearing up the bible; they're not complaining about me wiping my [expletive deleted] with the American flag. I don't know what's more ridiculous: the stories they've created or the fact that people believe them. If I didn't commit those acts, then where did they come from? Nowhere other than the imagination of my accusers. So who's the sinner now?

Undated
Just got a phone call from my father. He was watching Real Stories of the Highway Patrol and said that on the show they caught a guy they had been chasing across Ohio. When they pulled him over, they found a trunk full of guns. He was a twenty-five-year-old Christian fanatic with missing teeth, and he said he was going to Florida to kill the Antichrist. The episode had been taped the same week we just played in Florida.

 

[anathema]

February 4, 1997 - Lubbock, Texas
God has somehow managed to find his way into the Hippocratic oath because the paramedics here refused to treat me with oxygen for exhaustion after our performance explaining that they didn't agree with my morality, therefore I didn't deserve their emergency life-preserving skills. Apparently Jesus saves, but the paramedics here don't.

exact reasons I hate most christians,,, they probably voted for bush too...

 

[MoreInSorrow]

they probably voted for bush too...

Wow, what does that have to do with ANYTHING in this thread?

 

[Lithium Hobo]

If you aren't a Christian you are a Pagan.

Hi, I'm an atheist, the exception to the rule. Meet my friends, the Buddist, Muslim, Jew, well, you get the point.

Marilyn is a brilliant artist. May not play well with others, but that doesn't deter the fact that he is a musical genius. Give him a song and he'll cover it and make it 10 times better.

 

[kdet]

Well he did sexulally molest a security guard

http://www.absolutecelebrities.com/mugshot/marilyn_manson.html