Understanding John's Chronology

[Riberra]

After John is told about the two witnesses, he picks back up to where he left off about the woes in Chapter 9.

No ,there is a progression in the narrative of Rev.11---->Revelation 11:14 tell us that the Second Woe Will END RIGHT THERE Just before the 7TH Trumpet [Revelation 11:15].

Riberra, in your scenario, you are having a third of mankind being killed by supernatural creatures - at the same time the world is celebrating, exchanging presents over the deaths of the two witnesses? Oblivious that a third of them are being killed. Really?

Really, because the two witnesses will preach during the 6 Trumpet plagues
---->From Revelation 8 ---Revelation 9 --- Through Revelation 11:14 .....All the 6 trumpets plagues will be *associated to the action of God *and the actions the Two Witnesses who will add their own plagues [*which is really exactly that*]...

AND the NATIONS WERE ANGRY [Against God ---->because of the 6 Trumpets plagues and the plagues of the Two Witnesses ]

That is these plagues of the 6 Trumpets who will set the scene for a False Savior [The "one" who will kill the two witnesses Revelation 11:7]---->who will "save" the World from the plagues of the Two Witnesses and who will bring a new era of peace and prosperity [for 42 months] for all those who will take the mark and who will worship him ...

The WRATH of God will be poured out in the 7 VIALS OF THE WRATH OF GOD [Revelation 16] during the last 6 months of the Reign of the Beast .To punish those who will have taken the mark and worshiped the Beast/AC.The 7 Vials of the Wrath of God will be poured out to AVENGE the BLOOD of the Christians ---> AFTER that the Christians who will refuse to take the mark and will refuse to worship the Beast/AC will have almost all been killed.

 

[Revealing Times]

Revelation chapters 1 - 11 are chronological from the 1st Seal through the 6th Trumpet/ 2nd woe.

I agree ALMOST, Rev. 1-9 are Chronological then it skips to 16 however, 11 is a repeat of the 2nd Woe so it can't be "Chronological technically". As per the Seals, they start on chapter 6, that is what you meant right? They don't start in Rev. ch. 1, as Imlamad like to think they do, hes a great brother in Christ, but we all have our quirks I suppose we have to overcome, way too many people get Matthew 24 confused and thus get the timing of Revelation confused.

Chapters 12 -13 are chronological from the beginning of the Seals through the end of the 2nd woe.

I agree these two chapters start at the FIRST SEAL, because both are about the Anti-Christ coming to power for 42 months r chasing the Woman (Israel) into the Wilderness for 1260 days (42 months). But I do not see why they only go to the 2nd Woe, Rev. 12 implies the Woman is protected for 1260 Days, and even though we know the Beast rules for 42 Months we are never told how deep into the tribulation period Rev. 13 is speaking about, it basically ends with the False Prophet setting up the Abomination of Desolation, which is about the Middle of the week or a little past.

Chapter 14 starts back at the end of the 7 Seals/ start of the 7 trumpets/ start of the Day of the Lord and goes through the previously described 6 Trumpets

I used to think Rev. 14:14 was the Pre-trib Rapture with Jesus setting on the Clouds, it might be, but according to Daniel 12:2 the Old Testament Jewish Saints are raise at the very end, at the time of troubles. I think the Rev. 14:14 verse is the cycle being thrust in to harvest the Old Testament Saints, and the cycle being thrust in at Rev. 14:19-20 is of course the Harvest of the TARES. The wheat is the repented Jews who turn to Christ before the Day of the Lord. So that means I see Rev. 14 as Jesus landing on Mt Zion, which would be the 6th or 7th Vial.

 

[Douggg]

Really, because the two witnesses will preach during the 6 Trumpet plagues
---->From Revelation 8 ---Revelation 9 --- Through Revelation 11:14 .....All the 6 trumpets plagues will be *associated to the action of God *and the actions the Two Witnesses who will add their own plagues [*which is really exactly that*]...

What kind of celebrating is going to be taking place around the earth at the same time one out of every three persons on earth are being killed? The third is killed by an army of 200,000,0000. It is not God's army. So why would the world be blaming the two witnesses for that?

It makes no sense for the world to be celebrating when some huge army is killing 1 out of every 3 persons, which that army is not even associated with the two witnesses.

That army has not been destroyed just because the two witnesses are killed. Your scenario of the two witnesses being killed at the end of the 7 years makes no senses.

 

[Riberra]

That army has not been destroyed just because the two witnesses are killed. Your scenario of the two witnesses being killed at the end of the 7 years makes no senses.

The two witnesses are not killed at the end of the 7 Years....they are killed just before that Satan will be cast out of Heaven ----->Satan will give power to the Beast TO CONTINUE DURING 42 MONTHS [Revelation 13:3-5]----->That mean that the Beast [Angel Abaddon Revelation 9:11]was doing some actions before that

Whatever the way the army of supernatural creatures will be associated to an extra- terrestrial invasion ...or as a plague of God [because of the opening of the Bottomless Pit [Revelation 9]]the killing of the two witnesses is timed to happen near the End of the Second Woe Revelation 11:7-14....just before the 7 Th Trumpet...Revelation 11:15 ....Thus logically speaking the army of supernatural creatures will have also ended their killing of 1/3 of humanity at that moment ...and will simply "mysteriously stop and go out" ...

To be clear :
The army of supernatural creatures are under the orders of Angel Abaddon [Revelation 9:11]who is the Beast that the whole Earth shall wonder Revelation 17:8 ...Revelation 13:3-5]....Angel Abaddon is the one who will kill the two witnesses [Revelation 11:7] just before the End of the Second Woe Revelation 11:7-14

Nobody will know that he is Angel Abaddon the destroyer who have send his army of supernatural creatures from the bottomless pit to kill 1/3 of humanity ...