Understanding Evolution (2)

[maksutov]

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[DerelictJunction]

We both breathe oxygen. Manmade labels I'm not interested in.

"Same" and "different" are man-made labels.

 

[bhsmte]

Subscribing for the laughs.

 

[justlookinla]

"Same" and "different" are man-made labels.

Yes, and no person would mistake a human for a chimp. They're different. They're not the same.

 

[Davian]

 

[Loudmouth]

Yes, and no person would mistake a human for a chimp. They're different. They're not the same.

Would any person mistake a chihuahua for a great dane? If not, does that mean that they are different life forms?

 

[justlookinla]

Would any person mistake a chihuahua for a great dane? If not, does that mean that they are different life forms?

Nope a person would not mistake a chihuahua for a great dane. And no, they're not different life forms. A person would not mistake a Siamese cat for a German Shepherd either, they're different life forms.

And neither would a person mistake a human for a chimp.

 

[EternalDragon]

Nope a person would not mistake a chihuahua for a great dane. And no, they're not different life forms. A person would not mistake a Siamese cat for a German Shepherd either, they're different life forms.

And neither would a person mistake a human for a chimp.

Well, some here would.....and do, sadly.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Well, some here would.....and do, sadly.

That wouldn't be another of your slightly-less-than-honest distortions of what has been posted, would it? Who has made that mistake? Link please.

 

[Euler]

Yes, and no person would mistake a human for a chimp. They're different. They're not the same.

Then please explain why their ERV insertions are found in mathematically staggering SAME LOCATIONS in the genome!!

 

[justlookinla]

Then please explain why their ERV insertions are found in mathematically staggering SAME LOCATIONS in the genome!!

Common design.

 

[Euler]

Common design.

HAHAHAHA! You really DO NOT HAVE A CLUE, do you!?

Common design??

Let's see. Your God 'designed' it so that chimpanzees were infected by retroviruses, IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LOCATIONS within their genome.

Then, he had humans infected with the same ancient retroviruses and had them infect the humans IN EXACTLY THE SAME LOCATIONS in THEIR genomes!!

Out of the BILLIONS of locations that could have been chosen for insertion in either of the genomes, your God 'designed' so those bugs would choose the same spots in both.

I've got a bridge for you if you're interested.

 

[EternalDragon]

Then please explain why their ERV insertions are found in mathematically staggering SAME LOCATIONS in the genome!!

It's only a handful of insertions and appear to be independent events. Not
from inheritance.

Do Shared ERVs Support Common Ancestry? - Evolution News & Views

More Points on ERVs - Evolution News & Views

 

[DerelictJunction]

Yes, and no person would mistake a human for a chimp. They're different. They're not the same.

No person would mistake a person of African descent from a person of European descent, either. Does that justify treating them differently from each other? Of course not. However, some use that criteria to mete out injustice.

Since your "no-person-would-mistake..." criteria for determining relatedness between species is faulty, what else are you using to determine that chimps and humans are not descended from a common ancestor?

 

[PsychoSarah]

It's only a handful of insertions and appear to be independent events. Not
from inheritance.

Do Shared ERVs Support Common Ancestry? - Evolution News & Views

More Points on ERVs - Evolution News & Views

Again, that is a creationist site. Please, stop getting your info from sources that directly benefit from presenting evolution inaccurately.

And it isn't a handful, it is hundreds if not thousands

 

[bhsmte]

HAHAHAHA! You really DO NOT HAVE A CLUE, do you!?

Common design??

Let's see. Your God 'designed' it so that chimpanzees were infected by retroviruses, IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF LOCATIONS within their genome.

Then, he had humans infected with the same ancient retroviruses and had them infect the humans IN EXACTLY THE SAME LOCATIONS in THEIR genomes!!

Out of the BILLIONS of locations that could have been chosen for insertion in either of the genomes, your God 'designed' so those bugs would choose the same spots in both.


I've got a bridge for you if you're interested.

I guess God ran out of design ideas.

 

[Loudmouth]

It's only a handful of insertions and appear to be independent events.

I already showed you why these are lies. Why do you continue to spread them?

There are over 200,000 ERV's in the human genome. Of those 200,000 human ERV's, less than 100 are not found in the chimp genome at the same location (i.e. orthologous).

We have shown you this multiple times, so why the continued misinformation?

 

[Loudmouth]

Common design.

Let's see how well your theory works.

Both chimps and gorillas have a type of ERV called CERV's (aka PtERV's). This family of retroviral DNA is not found in humans.

Using "common design", should I find CERV insertions at the same locations in the gorilla and chimp genomes? Explain your answer.

When you are finished, I will give the predictions made by the theory of evolution, and why the theory makes those predictions.

 

[selfinflikted]

so why the continued misinformation?

To cast doubt, of course.

 

[bhsmte]

To cast doubt, of course.

Protecting a belief lacking any objective evidence is hard work. You can't let your guard down and you have to go on the attack quite often.