Unbelievers rights

[davetaff]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid unbelievers to take part in discussions after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[chevyontheriver]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid unbelievers to take part in discussions after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

Love and Peace
Dave

Does an unbeliever have a right to disrupt any and every discussion among Christians?

 

[Clare73]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid unbelievers to take part in discussions after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

You are to be aware if there is any operation of the Holy Spirit taking place in the unbeliever, if there is none, you are wasting your time.

If they are there just to blaspheme and denigrate, it is Christian to expel them.

 

[Clare73]

You are to be aware if there is any operation of the Holy Spirit taking place in the unbeliever, if there is none, you are wasting your time.

If they are there just to blaspheme and denigrate, it is Christian to expel them.
Unbelievers have no rights over what they do not own.

 

[davetaff]

Hi thank you all for your replies who did our Lord preach to it was not to the believers of his day he preached to the ordenary man in the street and so did his apostles.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart

We have this wonderful weapon so let's use it to overcome the unbelievers

Love and Peace
Dave

 

[davetaff]

Hi what about

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Shall we ignore this commandment

Love and Peace

Dave

 

[chevyontheriver]

Hi what about

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Shall we ignore this commandment

Love and Peace

Dave

Why would we ignore that command? Love them, bless them, do good to them, and pray for them.

 

[Armchair Apologist]

It is a matter of common courtesy and mutual respect.

If I were having a conversation among other believers or engaging a willing listener regarding the Gospel message, it would be rude for an unbeliever to interrupt us with their excessively loud "Praise the Devil" Death-Metal music.

If SLAYER were in town playing their Satanic Death-Metal music at a major venue in your given town, it would be downright rude (not to mention dangerous) for anyone to jump up on the stage, kick the lead singer out of the way, and start preaching Christ!

I believe these same principles could (and should) be applied to this forum.

 

[Rescued One]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid unbelievers to take part in discussions after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

Love and Peace
Dave

No one's salvation depends on a Christian's endless stuggle to convince or convert him.

5 What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. 6 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
1 Corinthians 3

 

[Rescued One]

Why would we ignore that command? Love them, bless them, do good to them, and pray for them.

Sure, love everyone, but don't invite cultists or atheists to preach lies in your congregation.

 

[Rescued One]

Hi thank you all for your replies who did our Lord preach to it was not to the believers of his day he preached to the ordenary man in the street and so did his apostles.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart

We have this wonderful weapon so let's use it to overcome the unbelievers

Love and Peace
Dave

It's up to God to make the seeds grow. My "ordinary" relatives don't believe. My example, my love, my kindnesses, sharing the word, doesn't convert them. There are millions of people who hate Christianity. "The whole world lieth in wickedness."
"Whom he will he hardeneth."

 

[com7fy8]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid

I assume you mean in these forums. There could be a fine line between forbidding . . . and regulating.

Jesus had the garden, where He shared personally with His disciples. And there were places where enemies and not so close listeners had their opportunity to relate with Jesus.

unbelievers to take part in discussions

There are places where non-believers may join in. And possibly we have places where they may initiate threads with questions and discussions.

And there is always private messaging.

But one issue might be that a number of us do not choose to visit those places, and the non-believers could want more input.

And ones might want to reach more of us with their agendas. But, yes, we are free not to visit and join in their things.

I myself concentrate on advice and some Christian sections if advice is buried in older discussions. But I do drop in, at times, where un-believers and I share.

after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

Yes, and therefore Jesus did not always stay in the garden. But we do well to have garden time with ones in agreement with Jesus.

And ones not in agreement have an opportunity here to do what un-believers could not do while Jesus was in the garden > they may visit where we are sharing read what we are sharing! Unbelievers and less close disciples could not visit and listen in on Jesus' garden sessions, I think.

Love and Peace
Dave

God bless you, too.

 

[St_Worm2]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid unbelievers to take part in discussions after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

Hi Dave, while the points made in the quote at the bottom of this post are undoubtedly vital and (should be) a big part of every believer's daily walk with God (after all, right now/during our lives here is the only opportunity that we will ever have to be able to fight for God and help others find Him), I also believe that regular fellowship with other believers and the continual deepening thereby of our knowledge and understanding of God/His word/the faith is vital to us as well (and the latter has often proven to be next to impossible to do on Christian forums that allow non-Christians to post on every board and in every thread).

IOW, I like the format that has been provided for us as there are boards here at CF that accommodate discussions by specific groups and/or about specific topics, and others that are open to all and/or to discussions about almost anything

God bless you!!

--David

 

[Stephen3141]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid unbelievers to take part in discussions after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

Love and Peace
Dave

My understanding for this site, is. that it welcomes discussions among people
who have all sorts of beliefs.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Hi jest wondering is it unChristian to forbid unbelievers to take part in discussions after all is it not our duty to spread Gods word among unbelievers in the hope they will be saved.

Love and Peace
Dave

From what I have seen and experienced in over 15 years on this forum, there is a growing movement of social advocacy among those who have parted ways with the Christian faith.

That movement of disbelief is no longer settling with merely finding its own way apart from the Christian faith, but as can be seen in the now closed Philosophy and Apologetics sections of CF alone, as but one example of the evidence available within the massive distributions of social media, there is an impetus among those who have jettisoned the faith to decry, shut down and criticize into humiliation, or even taking strong legal actions against, if possible, just about any Christian view that firmly asserts itself in the public realm.

And this is part of why one doesn't see any forums here on CF any longer where the more acerbic ex-Christians and atheists are allowed to ply their private agendas of deprecation against Christian views.

However, personally, being that I'm philosophically inclined, I'm more than willing to engage nearly any unbelieving interlocutor, and I usually remain open to to doing so.

 

[tampasteve]

ADMIN HAT ON
This thread is now closed. The truth is that we do our best to manage people interacting, over time certain forums have had to be closed or restricted due to people's general inability to interact in kind and loving manners, be that between Christians and non-Christians or between different denominations. This forum is first a place where Christians of all denominations can interact, while it is secondly a place where non-Christians can interact in a understanding manner.

Further questions should be addressed in Support, please feel encouraged to open a Support Ticket to discuss it directly with Administration of the forum.
ADMIN HAT OFF