UN Migration Pact. Why we didn't sign it

[LostMarbels]

Goals:

Illegalise speech against migration. Making any critical speech of immigration a criminal offense. Any media outlets that "give room" to this type of speech can be shut down.

The legalisation of mass migration that is enforced by law. Thusly it is unlawful to say no, or hinder migrant entry into your country.

This pact is a "coup d'etat" (violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group) " of pro-migrant, liberal, globalists. It will greatly help multinationals"

"Countries that import the third world, will become the third world."

An effort to change the demographics because "in third world countries the multi nationalists dictate the rules."

It will become impossible, even illegal to disallow any muslims, from any nation, entry into your country.

" It will be impossible, to mention the fact that mass migration deteriorates the western welfare systems, and the fact, that mass migration leads to an explosive surge of rape and murder."

EU member states and this pact intend to "Destroy the level political playing field" By making any policy, defunding or attempt to limit immigration illegal.

It is their stated attempt " to silence all political opposition."

Tommy robinson was the first example of the types of arrests that will follow.

Elections will be rigged.

 

[Brightmoon]

Well since the USA refuses to do anything about global warming we’re going see more of these forced migrations . The best thing is to prepare places for these people and not abuse people asking for asylum like this administration has been doing . They have the legal right to ask for asylum. Unless you got 100% American Indian ancestry you came from immigrant ancestors . The hypocrisy is strong in this one !

 

[LostMarbels]

Well since the USA refuses to do anything about global warming we’re going see more of these forced migrations . The best thing is to prepare places for these people and not abuse people asking for asylum like this administration has been doing . They have the legal right to ask for asylum. Unless you got 100% American Indian ancestry you came from immigrant ancestors . The hypocrisy is strong in this one !

What I posted is a Press conference with Marcel de Graaff, Nicolas Bay, ENF Group Leaders, and Gerolf Annemans. Did you not understand that this immigration thing is stated to be their way to make the western world 3rd world countries?

 

[Brightmoon]

No I probably just saw the hypocrisy and fear mongering . I live in NYC , high immigrant population, many don’t speak English, a lot of illegals, They aren’t a problem ! NYC is a sanctuary city and we just had our lowest crime rate in decades

This is a screenshot from the Wikipedia article. But the information is accurate

 

[Tanj]

Goals:

Illegalise speech against migration. Making any critical speech of immigration a criminal offense. Any media outlets that "give room" to this type of speech can be shut down.

The legalisation of mass migration that is enforced by law. Thusly it is unlawful to say no, or hinder migrant entry into your country.

This pact is a "coup d'etat" (violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group) " of pro-migrant, liberal, globalists. It will greatly help multinationals"

"Countries that import the third world, will become the third world."

An effort to change the demographics because "in third world countries the multi nationalists dictate the rules."

It will become impossible, even illegal to disallow any muslims, from any nation, entry into your country.

" It will be impossible, to mention the fact that mass migration deteriorates the western welfare systems, and the fact, that mass migration leads to an explosive surge of rape and murder."

EU member states and this pact intend to "Destroy the level political playing field" By making any policy, defunding or attempt to limit immigration illegal.

It is their stated attempt " to silence all political opposition."

Tommy robinson was the first example of the types of arrests that will follow.

Elections will be rigged.

None of what you summarized is true.

Firstly, it's non binding, even if country does sign it.
Secondly, to quote the UN:
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The UN chief said that in recent months there had been “many falsehoods” uttered about the agreement and “the overall issue of migration”. In order to dispel the “myths”, he said that the Compact did not allow the UN to impose migration policies on Member States, and neither was the pact a formal treaty.

“Moreover, it is not legally-binding. It is a framework for international cooperation, rooted in an inter-governmental process of negotiation in good faith,” he told delegates in Marrakech.

The pact would not give migrants rights to go anywhere, reaffirming only the fundamental human rights, he said.
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For anyone that wants to know what the compact actually says (as opposed to a couple of youtube videos that well, you know...youtube)

Here's a link to it in its entirety:
https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sit...reed_outcome_global_compact_for_migration.pdf

For the record, I don't think it's worth signing either, but not because of the Ragnarrok threatened in the OP

 

[LostMarbels]

The people in attendance and the man speaking are members of the European parliament. The EU. You know, the body of government that is going to enforce this compact. That isn't some random right winger reading these terms/goals off the list.

You state it isn't binding. Yet they state this is coming at a wonderful time because european elections are coming up and the elections are going to be rigged. That means they are going to place the people that will make a binding contract. You can listen to him say it.

 

[expos4ever]

I don’t even need to check; the OP contains a major lie: the UN is NOT trying to make opposition to migration illegal.

Honestly, have you no shame?

 

[Tanj]

The people in attendance and the man speaking are members of the European parliament.

Utterly irrelevant compared to the actual legal status of the compact and it's actual words.

The EU. You know, the body of government that is going to enforce this compact.

This legally unenforceable compact comes from the UN, not the EU.

You state it isn't binding

The UN that produced it states it isn't binding, which it isn't. I could dig up the UN charter. But honestly, nothing outside of the security council is ever binding ever.

Yet they state this is coming at a wonderful time because european elections are coming up and the elections are going to be rigged.

There is no evidence to support this at all.

That means they are going to place the people that will make a binding contract. You can listen to him say it.

He can shout it from the rooftops. Doesn't make it any more real, nor does it in anyway explain how the EU is going to make a UN compact binding.

 

[USincognito]

None of what you summarized is true.

Firstly, it's non binding, even if country does sign it.
Secondly, to quote the UN:
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The UN chief said that in recent months there had been “many falsehoods” uttered about the agreement and “the overall issue of migration”. In order to dispel the “myths”, he said that the Compact did not allow the UN to impose migration policies on Member States, and neither was the pact a formal treaty.

“Moreover, it is not legally-binding. It is a framework for international cooperation, rooted in an inter-governmental process of negotiation in good faith,” he told delegates in Marrakech.

The pact would not give migrants rights to go anywhere, reaffirming only the fundamental human rights, he said.
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For anyone that wants to know what the compact actually says (as opposed to a couple of youtube videos that well, you know...youtube)

Here's a link to it in its entirety:
https://refugeesmigrants.un.org/sit...reed_outcome_global_compact_for_migration.pdf

For the record, I don't think it's worth signing either, but not because of the Ragnarrok threatened in the OP

Thanks. The hyperbolic histrionics in the OP was telling me this thread is in the wrong subforum.

 

[LostMarbels]

I don’t even need to check; the OP contains a major lie: the UN is NOT trying to make opposition to migration illegal.

This is a member of European parliament making these claims. From his mouth. Not me. He states that while this is not bidding it is a framework of what legislation is to be passed, and an agreement to uphold these ideals. That is stated in the very beginning.

Honestly, have you no shame?

Not concerning this. No, I don't.

 

[expos4ever]

This is a member of European parliament making these claims. From his mouth. Not me.

I GUARANTEE there is nothing in any UN initiative that would “illegalize speech against migration”.

 

[LostMarbels]

I GUARANTEE there is nothing in any UN initiative that would “illegalize speech against migration”.

I guarantee you cannot disprove that very intention is stated, as a part of the signing of the pact as an expansion of "hate speech". By the European parliament member I presented in this clip.

56 seconds in as a matter of fact.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I don’t even need to check; the OP contains a major lie: the UN is NOT trying to make opposition to migration illegal.

Honestly, have you no shame?

Honestly, you still need to ask?

 

[LostMarbels]

Honestly, you still need to ask?

Lets see... He says he is speaking about the global compact on migration, that will be voted on the 10th and the 11th of december, by the international congress in Marrakech Morocco.

Let's see what is on their website. Oh wow, it's there... It's the same exact one everyone is saying Im lying about. The same one from the UN. "The Conference is convened under the auspices of the United Nations General Assembly"

 

[TLK Valentine]

Lets see... He says he is speaking about the global compact on migration, that will be voted on the 10th and the 11th of december, by the international congress in Marrakech Morocco.

Let's see what is on their website. Oh wow, it's there... It's the same exact one everyone is saying Im lying about. The same one from the UN. "The Conference is convened under the auspices of the United Nations General Assembly"

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Now all you have to do is show where it says what you claim it says.

 

[LostMarbels]

Now all you have to do is show where it says what you claim it says.

UN Migration Pact. Why we didn't sign it

The absolute very beginning. 13 seconds in.

Really tho. It's only a 4:15 clip. I transcribed it in my post either quoted or loosely so it can be read along.

 

[USincognito]

This is a member of European parliament making these claims. From his mouth. Not me. He states that while this is not bidding it is a framework of what legislation is to be passed, and an agreement to uphold these ideals. That is stated in the very beginning.

LOL! Did you even do any fact checking before posting this that propaganda? Do you even know the speaker is? You just just keep parroting "EU parliament member" over and over like a mantra. Do you know what party is with? Do you know anything about his positions? Do you understand that 4 minutes out of a longer presentation can strip it of all context?

For those actually interested in the facts, the speaker is Marcel de Graaff who is a Dutch politician. He is a a member of the right wing Party for Freedom that is very anti-immigrant and specifically anti-Muslim immigrant.
Party for Freedom - Wikipedia
And he is part of a caucus in the EU parliament of like minded right wing anti-immigrant representatives.
Europe of Nations and Freedom - Wikipedia

His speech is not what he wants to be implemented or what the agreement will actually implement, it's a fear mongering appeal to "this is what they are going to do" bit of propagandizing.

 

[Nithavela]

Amazing. Every single sentence in the OP is false.

 

[LostMarbels]

I can't respond right now I'm not on my computer. But I will respond. Unfortunately my phone is a brick.

 

[USincognito]

Amazing. Every single sentence in the OP is false.

But but but.. he quoted a member of the EU parliament talking about a UN agreement on a 4 minute YouTube video.

What makes you think you know more about it than he does?