No, its something that someone with a closed mind would say
Ooooh, a closed mind! That's a terrible thing to have innit? But I admit to having a closed mind on a variety of topics. For instance, Flerfers (Flat Earth believers routinely, and quite correctly, accuse me in righteous tones of being closed minded due to my refusal to consider their "proofs" that the earth is shaped like a pizza with a wall of ice around the perimeter. I find the idea ludicrous, and yes, I refuse to consider it. Same with the idea that "aliens" built the pyramids
that is not interested in looking into something and would rather brush it off because it threatens their current worldview.
So say the flerfers, but I brush their ideas off because I believe they're stupid. And so it is with some of the ideas that fans of Spacemen/Demons) and Flying Saucers hold dear. The first and foremost is the absurd claim made by a great majority of Saucer Buffs, i.e., "It Defied the Laws of Physics". Reciting that bit of rubbish immediately causes me to assume that that translates to "It did stuff I don't think are possible". The reference to Physics is purely rhetorical, because most of these folks don't have any clue what "Physics" means at all. It also renders their report absurd, because nothing with mass "defies the laws of Physics". They usually dig the hole even deeper by blathering about how it had to have been aliens or demons or critters from another dimension and/or universe, because those critters can obviously use their Alien Magic to evade the rules God established to govern this universe (which is, as far we can tell, the only universe He did create.)
So Rule 1: If the observer says "It defied the Laws of Physics", the observers report is therefore suspect, because Nothing With Mass Defies The Laws of Physics. If the observer invokes alien technomagic or demonic magic to "explain" how that works, his credibilty drops to zero, because (Closed Mindness Alert!) There Ain't No Such Thing As Magic", techo or otherwise.
Take the account of Commander David Fraver as an example. He is a Naval wing Commander of a world famous strike fighter wing, the best of the best of the best. He is a subject matter expert on aviation of the highest degree. His record is perfect and his character immutable.
Sounds good to me.
He doesnt come to any "least likely possible explanation."
We'll see.
you cannot deny his testimony
I can easily deny his conclusions, though.
He explains what he recorded and saw with his own two eyes as a "white tic tac object with no visible control surface"
Sounds like a drone, there, dunnit?
and that vehicle breaking known laws of physics ascending straight up to 80,000 feet (thats space) and was able to immediately come down to 12,000 feet which is not possible with any human many avionics.
Interesting choice of words, although they're probably not the ones you wanted. "Avionics" are the electronic suites carried by aircraft, which are extraordinarily advanced in military aircraft. And that brings us to what the good commander "saw". What he most certainly
didn't see was the flying tic-tac climbing to 80,000 feet and then
immediately back to angels 12. It would be humanly impossible for him to follow. He got that information from his avionics suite.
I've told this tale till it has whiskers on it, so I'll give you the short form. A ham radio buddy and I built, from our junk boxes and about $75 worth of mail-order stuff, a device to confuse police traffic radar. In a test with a mutual cop buddy who is also a ham. it made the radar in his patrol car show a car (mine, with spoofing device switched on) to be traveling, in several passes, at between 150 and 300 miles per hour. And trust me, it wasn't.
Bottom line, radar and avionics can be faked out.
First clue is " it defied the laws of Physics". No, it didn't. If your instruments say it did, your instruments have been faked out.
No aliens, demons, or magic required. Just some few rooms full of uber-geeks with unlimited resources. But then nobody has anything like that, do they? Hmmm... Maybe a global superpower that produces more engineers than any other in the world? Buncha folks that provide the world with most of its electronic devices?
Nah, that's too hard to believe.
Simplest answer must be magic aliens or demons or shapeshifters or elves or flying saucers. I mean, once you've chucked logic out the window (Logical Defenestration), anyway.
Technical prowess be dogged, we
cain't be tricked by no Chinamen! It has to be magical aliens from outer space or demons from hell.
So, TicTac drone, loaded with avionics, 5th generation ECM suites fakes out avionics on US fighters and hilarity ensues, while the True Believers close eyes, stick fingers in ears, and chant "space men, space men, space men...".
Good job they're not
closed minded, innit?
Here is a link to his testimony if you are actually interested in doing more than hand waiving this away.
Maybe you shoulda read it first.
Im curious if you will actually look at this or just respond with another version of "Doesnt look like anything to me."
I'll be keen to see if you have any response except to recite that mantra.
Im using a science fiction trope to point out the absurdity of ignoring evidence right in front of your face because it threatens your worldview.
You seem to have ignored the evidence your Navy hero couldn't have possibly
seen what you claim he did, except on his potentially hoodooed instruments.
Nah, gotta be Alien/Demonic Magic.
Right. Speaking of clutching at irrational world viewsa...
it completely negates your arguments.
Quite the reverse, it knocks your Spacemen & Flying Saucers mythos into a cocked hat. The TicTac, IMO, probably didn't move at all, or no moreso than my car went 300 mph (no demons were involved with that, either.) It simply told the commander's avionics that's what happened.
But if you prefer magic...
Defied the laws of Physics?
only a witness describing what he saw
But he didn't.
a UAP broke the known laws of physics and avionics going 1000x faster than the fastest jet ever built
The instruments clearly said so, right?
Trick is, you have your mythology, and I don't share it. I'm just an old engineer, what do I know how any of this stuff works? In my word, nothing defies Physics, its laws are part of God's design.
You prefer mystical magical foofoo, wear yourself out. Just don't imagine it has any more logic behind it than does flat earth or any other bit of superstitious rubbish.