lucid42day
where do I go when the land touches sea
Happily, this is not true. I have never been able to identify one single person who is most people.AmariJah said:
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
(911: Debunking the Myths)
Popular Mechanics magazine has pages of information debunking the 911 myths.
(911: Debunking the Myths)
Popular Mechanics magazine has pages of information debunking the 911 myths.
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tulc
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I got caught in a rainstorm once and I was pretty moist by the time I got home! that sure was uncomfor...(uhh excuse me Mrs.tulc wants to tell me something "bzzz bzzz bzz zz" "no really? it doesn't say moist?" tulc looks at what lucid said "huh! You're right babe!) Uhmmm never mind!
tulc(man I need to get these glasses checked!)
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One has to me pretty much "asleep at the wheel" to buy this expensive propaganda from Michael Chertoffs cousin!MaryS said:
This is merely another example of the "powers that be" literally paying for alleged "news", and pretending that it's journalism!
http://www.reopen911.org/hiddenhand.htm
THE HIDDEN HAND OF THE CIA - 9/11 and Popular Mechanics
Questions to Art Bell from The American Free Press on 911 Debunker Ben Chertoff's Radio Appearance, March 5, 2005
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/questionsforbellonchertoff05mar05.shtml
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I realize that this is not exactly a nice thing to say... But it is really the only way I can begin to understand why so many people accept the selfish Chicken-hawk, global corporatism promoted by the Bush adminstration.lucid42day said:
It's almost as if we are no longer a country "of the People, by the Peole and for the People", but a business of the corporations, by the corporations and for the corporations. Definitely bizarre- kinda like science fiction!
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One more link discussing the Popular Mechanics phony article...
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/090305alexresponds.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/090305alexresponds.htm
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AmariJah said:
And Alex Jones of www.prisonplanet.com has no bias? Did you look at some of the other subject matter there? looks a bit like a paleocon site.
The group at www.nazi.org don't like Chertoff either because he picked up their beloved leader of a known racist church!
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MaryS said:
You are simply avoiding the issues and trying to divert the discussion. (& no I did not look at any of the other subject matter- no point!) Show me any source or information about ANYTHING that is not biased in some way! Your other reference is so far off topic it does not even dignify a response!
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I found a great link where they keep updated news stories related to Sept. 11 2001.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050605news911
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050605news911
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Here are just a few of the points made at 9/11 Truth.org (click the box next to the upper right hand corner entitled "Top 15 Reasons to doubt the "official story" of Sept. 11") http://www.911truth.org/
5) Scale and Diversity of Profiteering
So much gain for so few so fast
5) Scale and Diversity of Profiteering
So much gain for so few so fast
- Besides the millions in profits still unknown traders made the week of 9/11 betting on a WTC and United and American airlines catastrophe, our massive military responses generated billions for Halliburton, Bechtel and Carlyle related corporations. (During just the first 2 years, Cheney's 433,000 Halliburton stock options jumped to $26 million in worth.) The emergency also immediately blacked out coverage or investigation of Rumsfeld's September 10th acknowledgment that money was hemorrhaging from the Pentagon. "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld finally admitted. But hey, we can't look into this now, it's "War on Terror" time!
9) Disabled Air Defenses
"Fixing" Rules that Ain't Broke & Inserting War Game Noise
Everybody was somewhere else, out of touch or far too busy to respond...
12) The Bitter Fight against Investigations
What we don't know can't hurt them
Lost, Missing, Destroyed or Classified into Neverneverland
"Fixing" Rules that Ain't Broke & Inserting War Game Noise
- In June 2001 Rumsfeld rewrites the NORAD/FAA air emergency response protocols to require his office's permission in the interceptor launch authorization chain. In the year before this revision the NORAD/FAA emergency response had worked flawlessly 67 times. On 9/11 the system missed four out of four. - Three overlapping air war games were scheduled and run on September 11th that diverted NORAD air assets to Alaska, simulated an East Coast hijacking, and inserted phantom objects into FAA radar screens that confused air controllers on the ground. See more on war games here!
10) The Amazing Disappearing National Chain of Command
Everybody was somewhere else, out of touch or far too busy to respond...
- If we are to believe the 9/11 Commission's account nearly 40 million Americans were watching the attacks on TV before word ever got to our Secretary of Defense or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. George Bush heard much earlier but was busy with a pet goat story and stuck around the school for photo ops for a half hour more. The behavior of our top defense officials on 9/11 morn remains inexplicable to this day. See Gail Sheehy's "Who's in Charge Here?" and George Bush's "Interesting Day."
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUES: KEEPING THE LID ON 12) The Bitter Fight against Investigations
What we don't know can't hurt them
- The Bush administration repeatedly refused and resisted attempts to launch investigations and consistently underfunded and obstructed those that managed to get underway. The National Transportation Safety Board which ALWAYS investigates every airplane crash was totally shut out by the FBI and told to stay away. The 9/11 Commission was given less than a quarter of the funds of Clinton's Whitewater investigation, and many high official (including Bush & Cheney) would not testify under oath. The FBI anthrax inquiry lost all momentum once the strain was identified as a US military brand. And Ashcroft urged all federal agencies to ignore all the Freedom of Information requests that they possibly can.
13) The Amazing Disappearing Evidence Lost, Missing, Destroyed or Classified into Neverneverland
Short sampling: The FBI claimed all four WTC black boxes were destroyed and missing (but rescue workers claim that three were found), the FAA air controller tapes were systematically destroyed within hours of the attack, the WTC steel was immediately shipped abroad before it could be tested, the last three minutes of the Shanksville crash tape have never been released, and all court cases regarding the attacks have been denied access to vital evidence because of "national security concerns"
http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.911truth.org/
I'm afraid there is really no way out of this mess... The Bush administration needs to come clean now or they will be forced to do so sooner or later!
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