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9-11 Cover Story in San Francsco Bay Guardian
author: Carol Brouillet and Steve T. Jones
After years of effort, 9-11 has finally made the cover story of the third largest San Francisco paper. While the article blasts the key organizers, it also builds a case and argues some of the points that activists have been struggling to make for years.
After a series of successful premieres of Barrie Zwicker's documentary "The 9-11 News Special You Never Saw- The Great Conspiracy" (See the report from the organizer's point of view at http://www.communitycurrency.org/Reportpremieres.html ), here is the 9-11 Cover Story of the San Francisco Bay Guardian that came out March 23, 2005. Quotes:
"The most disturbing thing about the 9/11 truth movement, something you learn when you
really dissect their most compelling evidence, is that the activists are raising critically
important questions about the Bush administration's lies, cover-ups, and geopolitical strategy
- questions that are being almost entirely ignored by the mainstream media."
[We are supposed to believe]... "that one of the most secretive and manipulative administrations
in U.S. history is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth about an event
it has aggressively exploited to implement long-standing and far-reaching political plans,
from the USA PATRIOT Act to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq."
"To blindly believe the U.S. government at times like these is to ignore history and dismiss
warnings from people in positions to know how power is really wielded in this country."
http://www.sfbg.com/39/25/cover_conspiracy.html
We're all paranoid
Sure, the people with the 9/11 conspiracy theories are a little odd. But not everything they're saying is entirely crazy.
From the above we can determine that even some who perhaps disagree with the 9/11 Truth movement nevertheless are willing to acknowledge compelling evidence!
PLEASE DON'T BOTHER REPLYING TO THIS THREAD IF YOU ARE UNWILLING TO EXAMINE THE DETAILED AND CREDIBLE EVIDENCE! There are photos and video evidence as well as mountains of both hard and circumstantial evidence which would cause even the most naive and dedicated Bush supporter to demand direct and complete answers concerning the cruel and untimely deaths of 3000 + people on Sept. 11th, 2001.
http://www.911truth.org/
The top 15 reasons to doubt the official story of Sept. 11, 2001
Disclaimer
Background Issues: The Abiding Truth Deficit
1) The 9/11 Commission Fraud: Conflicts, Collapse and Cover-up
2) The Hundreds of Still Unanswered Questions, the Scores of Documented Lies
Motive Issues: Cui Bono - Who Profits Most?
3) Instant Fulfillment of Neocon Wish List
4) Political Bonanza for Bush/Rove team
5) Scale and Diversity of Profiteering
Means and Opportunity Issues: How to Make it Happen
6) Ignored Foreign Warnings
7) Quashed Domestic Investigations
8) Incapacitated Oversight
9) Disabled Air Defenses
10) The Amazing Disappearing National Chain of Command
11) The Pakistan Intelligence Chief Who Loved Everyone At Once
Aftermath Issues: How to Keep the Lid On
12) The Bitter Fight Against Investigations
13) The Amazing Disappearing Evidence
14) The Amazing Disappearing Demand for Accountability
Wildcard Issues: Just How Stupid They Think We Are
15) The Ripley Believe It or Not Sideshow of 9/11 Miracles
Epilogue: For the 9/11 Legacy Victims Still Dying in New York
Visit the web page listed above and follow the links- each of these 15 reasons are elaborated upon. If you are level headed and fair these are not some looney conspiracy theories- these 15 reasons represent solid intelligent questions about very specific aspects of the 9/11 attacks which deserve direct honest answers from our government and those who support the "official" conspiracy theory... Uh I mean the official story!
Please respond to one or more of these very specific topics documented here if you want to discuss and debate these issues rather than attempting to mock the authors or discredit the sources! Thanks!
http://reopen911.org/
You are invited to examine (THE EVIDENCE) on the right side of the opening page second heading down! Here is the "hard evidence".
Based on current research, this is a succinct list of the "hardest evidence" available about the 9/11/01 attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon; this information directly contradicts the American governments version of events.
--The hole in the Pentagon was too small to have been made by a 757 passenger plane, as photos show. The impression made was approximately half the size of the airplane.
--Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Centers leaseholder, is on tape saying " Pull it," in regard to WTC building 7. This building fell suddenly though it was not hit by a plane.
--The Bush Administration misled Americans about the health affects of the WTC attacks, stating "the air is safe to breathe," in order to reopen Wall Street and surrounding areas.
--According to eye witness testimony by several reporters and other citizens, "explosions" occurred at the WTC on 9/11. News footage is available..
--WTC damage was inconsistent with fire (Fire Engineering Magazine); yet consistent with the use of explosives.
--Bush blocked investigations into 9/11, then refused to testify under oath before the '9/11 Commission.' The Bush Administration benefited directly from the attacks in 'political capital.'
--Critical evidence from the 9/11 attacks was destroyed; the government has only released 25% of the documents requested by the 9/11 Commission, these documents have large blacked-out areas.
--The 9/11 attacks were used as a pretext for the war in Iraq; this war, based on bad intelligence has resulted in the loss of more than 100,000 lives.
--Five different air military training exercises were taking place on 9/11/01. Was this done purposely to confuse American air defense?
--At least four of the '9/11 suicide hijackers' have turned up alive. The identities of several more are in question. The FBI director admitted not all of the hijackers are known, (New York Times, Washington Post, BBC news).
--Assia Mortensen May, 6, 2005
www.newtopiamagazine.net/archives/content/issue17/oped/911.php
Here are a couple of other serious questions which may not have been fully addressed in the above links and articles.
Researchers, like Zwicker and others, quickly learned that in 2001 before the 9-11 attacks 62 aircraft had been intercepted by Air Force fighter interceptor jets, and usually within 10 to 15 minutes of going off course. http://septembereleventh.org/airdefense.php
Yet bizarrely, on 9-11 four commercial jets were hijacked off course for about one and a half hours before the last one crashed into the most highly protected building in the world (the Pentagon). . . yet no interceptor jet intercepted it in all that time. Alarm bells went off with citizens across the U.S. and the world. A number of people including former NYPD detective, Frank Serpico (played by Al Pacino in the movie about his life as an NYPD whistleblower exposing corruption at the New York Police Department), began to express a suspicion of the "official 9-11 story" during a whistleblower awards ceremony nationally televised on C-SPAN.
Then other issues came to light regarding 9-11, and foreknowledge of the attacks. For example, a former Los Angeles Police Detective named Michael Ruppert noted that outrageously high volumes of insider trading on United and American Airlines stocks prior to 9-11, (reported on by CBS, Bloomberg and other financial papers) actually had some strange ties to the Central Intelligence Agency. 9/11-related insider trading was worldwide. It occurred on markets in Hong Kong, Tokyo, Chicago, New York, London and Berlin. Estimates of the total amount of insider trades have ranged from the hundred of millions (CBS), to the billions (Ernst Weltke Chief of the Bundesbank), to the tens of billions (Andreas von Bülow, former German cabinet minister).
http://www.newtopiamagazine.net/archives/content/issue17/oped/911.php
Follow the link and read the entire story!
And here are some other links which may be repetative of some of the above questions, but which sum up what some consider to be the most important of the unanswered questions posed to the U.S. Government officials.
http://www.unansweredquestions.org/top_11.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4582.htm
http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/WarOnTerror/Persist.asp
Finally here is another link which provides a myriad of links to various research and Citizen watch groups investigating the descrepancies concerning Sept. 11, 2001 and the events pretaining thereto!
http://nancho.net/911CW/MUinfo1.html
Once again~ please take at least a few minutes examining the evidence and answering some of the questions posed by the 9/11 Truth researchers before responding to this thread! Thanks again for your cooperation and common courtesy in advance!
9-11 Cover Story in San Francsco Bay Guardian
author: Carol Brouillet and Steve T. Jones
After years of effort, 9-11 has finally made the cover story of the third largest San Francisco paper. While the article blasts the key organizers, it also builds a case and argues some of the points that activists have been struggling to make for years.
After a series of successful premieres of Barrie Zwicker's documentary "The 9-11 News Special You Never Saw- The Great Conspiracy" (See the report from the organizer's point of view at http://www.communitycurrency.org/Reportpremieres.html ), here is the 9-11 Cover Story of the San Francisco Bay Guardian that came out March 23, 2005. Quotes:
"The most disturbing thing about the 9/11 truth movement, something you learn when you
really dissect their most compelling evidence, is that the activists are raising critically
important questions about the Bush administration's lies, cover-ups, and geopolitical strategy
- questions that are being almost entirely ignored by the mainstream media."
[We are supposed to believe]... "that one of the most secretive and manipulative administrations
in U.S. history is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth about an event
it has aggressively exploited to implement long-standing and far-reaching political plans,
from the USA PATRIOT Act to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq."
"To blindly believe the U.S. government at times like these is to ignore history and dismiss
warnings from people in positions to know how power is really wielded in this country."
http://www.sfbg.com/39/25/cover_conspiracy.html
We're all paranoid
Sure, the people with the 9/11 conspiracy theories are a little odd. But not everything they're saying is entirely crazy.
From the above we can determine that even some who perhaps disagree with the 9/11 Truth movement nevertheless are willing to acknowledge compelling evidence!
PLEASE DON'T BOTHER REPLYING TO THIS THREAD IF YOU ARE UNWILLING TO EXAMINE THE DETAILED AND CREDIBLE EVIDENCE! There are photos and video evidence as well as mountains of both hard and circumstantial evidence which would cause even the most naive and dedicated Bush supporter to demand direct and complete answers concerning the cruel and untimely deaths of 3000 + people on Sept. 11th, 2001.
http://www.911truth.org/
The top 15 reasons to doubt the official story of Sept. 11, 2001
Disclaimer
Background Issues: The Abiding Truth Deficit
1) The 9/11 Commission Fraud: Conflicts, Collapse and Cover-up
2) The Hundreds of Still Unanswered Questions, the Scores of Documented Lies
Motive Issues: Cui Bono - Who Profits Most?
3) Instant Fulfillment of Neocon Wish List
4) Political Bonanza for Bush/Rove team
5) Scale and Diversity of Profiteering
Means and Opportunity Issues: How to Make it Happen
6) Ignored Foreign Warnings
7) Quashed Domestic Investigations
8) Incapacitated Oversight
9) Disabled Air Defenses
10) The Amazing Disappearing National Chain of Command
11) The Pakistan Intelligence Chief Who Loved Everyone At Once
Aftermath Issues: How to Keep the Lid On
12) The Bitter Fight Against Investigations
13) The Amazing Disappearing Evidence
14) The Amazing Disappearing Demand for Accountability
Wildcard Issues: Just How Stupid They Think We Are
15) The Ripley Believe It or Not Sideshow of 9/11 Miracles
Epilogue: For the 9/11 Legacy Victims Still Dying in New York
Visit the web page listed above and follow the links- each of these 15 reasons are elaborated upon. If you are level headed and fair these are not some looney conspiracy theories- these 15 reasons represent solid intelligent questions about very specific aspects of the 9/11 attacks which deserve direct honest answers from our government and those who support the "official" conspiracy theory... Uh I mean the official story!
Please respond to one or more of these very specific topics documented here if you want to discuss and debate these issues rather than attempting to mock the authors or discredit the sources! Thanks!
http://reopen911.org/
You are invited to examine (THE EVIDENCE) on the right side of the opening page second heading down! Here is the "hard evidence".
9/11 LIST OF HARD EVIDENCE
Based on current research, this is a succinct list of the "hardest evidence" available about the 9/11/01 attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon; this information directly contradicts the American governments version of events.
--The hole in the Pentagon was too small to have been made by a 757 passenger plane, as photos show. The impression made was approximately half the size of the airplane.
--Larry Silverstein, the World Trade Centers leaseholder, is on tape saying " Pull it," in regard to WTC building 7. This building fell suddenly though it was not hit by a plane.
--The Bush Administration misled Americans about the health affects of the WTC attacks, stating "the air is safe to breathe," in order to reopen Wall Street and surrounding areas.
--According to eye witness testimony by several reporters and other citizens, "explosions" occurred at the WTC on 9/11. News footage is available..
--WTC damage was inconsistent with fire (Fire Engineering Magazine); yet consistent with the use of explosives.
--Bush blocked investigations into 9/11, then refused to testify under oath before the '9/11 Commission.' The Bush Administration benefited directly from the attacks in 'political capital.'
--Critical evidence from the 9/11 attacks was destroyed; the government has only released 25% of the documents requested by the 9/11 Commission, these documents have large blacked-out areas.
--The 9/11 attacks were used as a pretext for the war in Iraq; this war, based on bad intelligence has resulted in the loss of more than 100,000 lives.
--Five different air military training exercises were taking place on 9/11/01. Was this done purposely to confuse American air defense?
--At least four of the '9/11 suicide hijackers' have turned up alive. The identities of several more are in question. The FBI director admitted not all of the hijackers are known, (New York Times, Washington Post, BBC news).
--Assia Mortensen May, 6, 2005
www.newtopiamagazine.net/archives/content/issue17/oped/911.php
Here are a couple of other serious questions which may not have been fully addressed in the above links and articles.
Researchers, like Zwicker and others, quickly learned that in 2001 before the 9-11 attacks 62 aircraft had been intercepted by Air Force fighter interceptor jets, and usually within 10 to 15 minutes of going off course. http://septembereleventh.org/airdefense.php
Yet bizarrely, on 9-11 four commercial jets were hijacked off course for about one and a half hours before the last one crashed into the most highly protected building in the world (the Pentagon). . . yet no interceptor jet intercepted it in all that time. Alarm bells went off with citizens across the U.S. and the world. A number of people including former NYPD detective, Frank Serpico (played by Al Pacino in the movie about his life as an NYPD whistleblower exposing corruption at the New York Police Department), began to express a suspicion of the "official 9-11 story" during a whistleblower awards ceremony nationally televised on C-SPAN.
Then other issues came to light regarding 9-11, and foreknowledge of the attacks. For example, a former Los Angeles Police Detective named Michael Ruppert noted that outrageously high volumes of insider trading on United and American Airlines stocks prior to 9-11, (reported on by CBS, Bloomberg and other financial papers) actually had some strange ties to the Central Intelligence Agency. 9/11-related insider trading was worldwide. It occurred on markets in Hong Kong, Tokyo, Chicago, New York, London and Berlin. Estimates of the total amount of insider trades have ranged from the hundred of millions (CBS), to the billions (Ernst Weltke Chief of the Bundesbank), to the tens of billions (Andreas von Bülow, former German cabinet minister).
http://www.newtopiamagazine.net/archives/content/issue17/oped/911.php
Follow the link and read the entire story!
And here are some other links which may be repetative of some of the above questions, but which sum up what some consider to be the most important of the unanswered questions posed to the U.S. Government officials.
http://www.unansweredquestions.org/top_11.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4582.htm
http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/WarOnTerror/Persist.asp
Finally here is another link which provides a myriad of links to various research and Citizen watch groups investigating the descrepancies concerning Sept. 11, 2001 and the events pretaining thereto!
http://nancho.net/911CW/MUinfo1.html
Once again~ please take at least a few minutes examining the evidence and answering some of the questions posed by the 9/11 Truth researchers before responding to this thread! Thanks again for your cooperation and common courtesy in advance!
