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Hmm. Smelling something in the air...
It's a journey.
The point I was making is Jesus and His Church are one. Jesus does save us. He saves us through the Sacraments of the Church.It was Jesus who saved Saul, not the church. Jesus alone saves souls. But as a church, we should be reaching out to people.
If salvation is readily available to those outside His Church, then why did Christ bother setting up the Church?
I was chatting with a protestant on YouTube and the reason he didn't want to become a catholic is because there was a lack of love in the catholic church. He went to a mass and he was turned off, because of the lack of love within the church congregation. Would you agree or disagree?
Praying for salvation for those outside His Church is an act of charity that we all should do. My point is that we cannot assume on anything outside of what Christ has revealed.I hear you, Camper, and obviously, in Heaven, there is no heresy, schism, error, or pride. None at all. Which means those who make it up there, make it through Christ, and as members of His Church. How God's Divine Mercy irons this out, either at the moment of death, through Purgatory, or both, I don't know.
But I do know that if we can weep and hope for righteous / just pagans, we can and should hope that God's grace saves and reconciles to His Church those Christians who did what they could with what they had and grasped to carry their cross, and follow Christ.
Doesn't the Fatima Prayer and Divine Mercy Chaplet, to some extent, point to this?
My point is that we cannot assume on anything outside of what Christ has revealed.
Disagree. Maybe in some parishes that is the case, but the ones I was a member of had lots of love.
The point I was making is Jesus and His Church are one. Jesus does save us. He saves us through the Sacraments of the Church.
Because you have the fullness of faith.
So are you saying a person cannot have the fullness of faith at a Presbyterian Church?
Yep.
What is a fullness of faith?
Haven't you discussed this with your priest or read about the faith we hold in the catechism??
LOLOL - See why I dropped out?Haven't you discussed this with your priest or read about the faith we hold in the catechism?? I mean, why are you starting the process of converting??
Sorry but I have not. So what is the fullness of faith?
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