Two state solution for Israel/Palestine? Not a hope.

[Aussie Pete]

Islam teaches that Israel prevents their false Messiah from appearing. Shia (Iran) believes the "Mahdi" is alive and waiting for the right time to appear. Sunni (Saudi Arabia and the majority of Muslim nations) says that he has yet to be born. Either way, Israel and the Jews must be destroyed in Islam's teachings. There are 7.6 million Jews in America, 3.4 million Muslims. The EU has about 750,000 Jews and 28 million Muslims. If I was a Jew, I would be getting well away from Europe.

Gaza Attack Was First Phase of Iran's Plan to Destroy Israel, Usher in Muslim 'Messiah'

The horrific Hamas attack on Israel was only the first phase of a long-term plan by Iran to wipe out the Jewish State.

www2.cbn.com

 

[JosephZ]

Islam teaches that Israel prevents their false Messiah from appearing. Shia (Iran) believes the "Mahdi" is alive and waiting for the right time to appear. Sunni (Saudi Arabia and the majority of Muslim nations) says that he has yet to be born. Either way, Israel and the Jews must be destroyed in Islam's teachings.

The view that Israel is preventing the Mahdi from appearing is held by only a small fringe of the world's Muslim population. This doctrine is found in the Twelvers sect of the Shia branch of Islam. Shia Muslims account for around 12% of the world's Muslims, and around 80% of those are Twelvers—less than 10% of the world's Muslims. And finally, among the Twelvers, not all believe that Israel is preventing the Mahdi from returning.

Teaching that Israel is preventing the Madhi's appearance and that Israel must be destroyed is an extremist position and isn't found in mainstream Islam. The Iranian government and Hamas are adherents to this doctrine, so it's definitely a threat to Israel.

 

[Aussie Pete]

The view that Israel is preventing the Mahdi from appearing is held by only a small fringe of the world's Muslim population. This doctrine is found in the Twelvers sect of the Shia branch of Islam. Shia Muslims account for around 12% of the world's Muslims, and around 80% of those are Twelvers—less than 10% of the world's Muslims. And finally, among the Twelvers, not all believe that Israel is preventing the Mahdi from returning.

Teaching that Israel is preventing the Madhi's appearance and that Israel must be destroyed is an extremist position and isn't found in mainstream Islam. The Iranian government and Hamas are adherents to this doctrine, so it's definitely a threat to Israel.

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Most Muslims are not extremists at present. However, it does not take too many to be a major problem. How many people were involved in the 9/11 attacks? There were 19 directly involved. They killed nearly 3,000 people. Iran is hell bent on getting a nuclear weapon. The average Iranian detests their own government. It is a dreadful irony that it was the UK and USA that enabled the Ayatollahs to gain power. When I was in the Navy as a young man, I trained alongside Iranian sailors in the UK.

The Houthis may be the minority in Yemen (incidentally, I lived there for a while as a child) but they are a serious military threat. Courtesy of Iran, of course. And the main thing that unites Muslims, Shia or Sunni, is hatred of Israel. Sure, Saudi Arabia tolerates Israel for now. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Don't expect that to last. I grow more sure by the day that the Antichrist will be Muslim, or head of the syncretistic Jewish/Roman Catholic/Muslim religion. A combination church/mosque/synagogue was opened in the UAE February this year. Even a Pentecostal Bible College has hosted Muslim apologists in Australia. My head still spins from that news.

I'm 72 so I may not live to see the Antichrist arise. Some say he is already alive. I don't know. People have been saying that since the Reformation.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I'm 72 so I may not live to see the Antichrist arise. Some say he is already alive. I don't know. People have been saying that since the Reformation.

Yeah, you'll be long gone. I'm 20 years younger and I won't see that either. Nor will my children or their children, or their children's children... because it's made up and not based in reality.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Most Muslims are not extremists at present. However, it does not take too many to be a major problem. How many people were involved in the 9/11 attacks? There were 19 directly involved. They killed nearly 3,000 people. Iran is hell bent on getting a nuclear weapon. The average Iranian detests their own government. It is a dreadful irony that it was the UK and USA that enabled the Ayatollahs to gain power. When I was in the Navy as a young man, I trained alongside Iranian sailors in the UK.

The Houthis may be the minority in Yemen (incidentally, I lived there for a while as a child) but they are a serious military threat. Courtesy of Iran, of course. And the main thing that unites Muslims, Shia or Sunni, is hatred of Israel. Sure, Saudi Arabia tolerates Israel for now. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Don't expect that to last. I grow more sure by the day that the Antichrist will be Muslim, or head of the syncretistic Jewish/Roman Catholic/Muslim religion. A combination church/mosque/synagogue was opened in the UAE February this year. Even a Pentecostal Bible College has hosted Muslim apologists in Australia. My head still spins from that news.

I'm 72 so I may not live to see the Antichrist arise. Some say he is already alive. I don't know. People have been saying that since the Reformation.

I think you're correct that most Muslims aren't "extremists".

I think it's unclear exactly what that means though....the average Muslims' beliefs would probably look extreme to most.

 

[Pommer]

Yeah, you'll be long gone. I'm 20 years younger and I won't see that either. Nor will my children or their children, or their children's children... because it's made up and not based in reality.

Until Milliway’s?

 

[Pommer]

I think you're correct that most Muslims aren't "extremists".

I think it's unclear exactly what that means though....the average Muslims' beliefs would probably look extreme to most.

The “average” is “extreme”?
…
Words have meaning.

 

[Aussie Pete]

I think you're correct that most Muslims aren't "extremists".

I think it's unclear exactly what that means though....the average Muslims' beliefs would probably look extreme to most.

What is means is that most Muslims don't take the Qur'an literally. Just as well as there are nearly 2 billion of them. Islam is Satan's attempt to stop God's kingdom coming to earth. Islam proposes a caliphate, a Muslim empire where everyone either submits to Islam or is killed. World war 3 has been underway for centuries. It is the church against Islam. The tragedy is that few realise this.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Yeah, you'll be long gone. I'm 20 years younger and I won't see that either. Nor will my children or their children, or their children's children... because it's made up and not based in reality.

We will see. The Bible has many prophecies that have been fulfilled already. I have no doubt that the end times prophecies will be fulfilled too. The mark of the beast is now technologically possible. Implants are already available. China has long had a system of social credit. Toe the line and you will be rewarded. Dissent and you will be punished. Many nations spy on their citizens, including Australia. I can't go shopping without a camera following my every move around the store. Google knows more about me than I know myself. 1984 was about "Big Government". Orwell missed the part that Big Business would play in the future.

 

[Desk trauma]

We will see. The Bible has many prophecies that have been fulfilled already. I have no doubt that the end times prophecies will be fulfilled too. The mark of the beast is now technologically possible. Implants are already available. China has long had a system of social credit. Toe the line and you will be rewarded. Dissent and you will be punished. Many nations spy on their citizens, including Australia. I can't go shopping without a camera following my every move around the store. Google knows more about me than I know myself. 1984 was about "Big Government". Orwell missed the part that Big Business would play in the future.

The two millennia worth of Christians before you were sure it was right around the corner too. Totes different this time though.

 

[Aussie Pete]

The two millennia worth of Christians before you were sure it was right around the corner too. Totes different this time though.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The “average” is “extreme”?
…
Words have meaning.

"Look extreme"....

Words have meaning.

 

[Aussie Pete]

For sure. From God's POV, it's only been a couple of days. For me, there are way too many insurmountable problems for the earth to last much longer. What "much" means is still conjecture.

 

[Desk trauma]

For sure. From God's POV, it's only been a couple of days. For me, there are way too many insurmountable problems for the earth to last much longer. What "much" means is still conjecture.

Like I said, totes different this time, nothing like the breathless cries of the end is nigh for the past 2,000 years. Those Christians had no clue, unlike today.

 

[Lost Witness]

Yeah, you'll be long gone. I'm 20 years younger and I won't see that either. Nor will my children or their children, or their children's children... because it's made up and not based in reality.

It's not made up at all..
Macro-evolution on the other hand is a different story.

 

[Robban]

For sure. From God's POV, it's only been a couple of days. For me, there are way too many insurmountable problems for the earth to last much longer. What "much" means is still conjecture.

Take a "Time out", can do wonders,
no one can carry the world on their shoulders.

Shabbat, an "island in time."

 

[Aussie Pete]

Take a "Time out", can do wonders,
no one can carry the world on their shoulders.

Shabbat, an "island in time."

I'm not worried about these things. Jesus is my Sabbath rest. I look up and see that my redemption is near.

 

[Pommer]

For sure. From God's POV, it's only been a couple of days. For me, there are way too many insurmountable problems for the earth to last much longer. What "much" means is still conjecture.

Odd how surprised Christians get when they realize that the planet can be a pretty crappy place to live if we all don’t get along better yet pine for the end-of-days.