Two Simple Rules of Thumb

[Kylie]

When I realized Who Its Author is.

How did you verify authorship?

 

[AV1611VET]

How did you verify authorship?

By inviting Its Author to live in me.

 

[Kylie]

Huh? How does that work?

 

[AV1611VET]

Huh? How does that work?

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

 

[Kylie]

Seems circular to me. You gotta believe the claims in the Bible are true in order to believe that the Bible is true.

 

[AV1611VET]

Seems circular to me. You gotta believe the claims in the Bible are true in order to believe that the Bible is true.

Are there any claims the Bible makes that you think are true?

If so, okay with you if I do the same thing?

 

[Kylie]

Are there any claims the Bible makes that you think are true?

If so, okay with you if I do the same thing?

Oh, yes. There are things in the Bible that are true. But all of them are things that you don't need a Bible to know about.

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh, yes. There are things in the Bible that are true. But all of them are things that you don't need a Bible to know about.

Is Israel the Promised Land?

 

[Kylie]

Is Israel the Promised Land?

Not promised by God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not promised by God.

Is Jerusalem the City of God?

Is the United States a Christian nation?

Is the United States "Great Satan"?

Is Israel "Lesser Satan"?

 

[Kylie]

Is Jerusalem the City of God?

Is the United States a Christian nation?

Is the United States "Great Satan"?

Is Israel "Lesser Satan"?

What in the world are you going on about?

 

[AV1611VET]

What in the world are you going on about?

Having trouble understanding religious claims?

 

[Kylie]

Just your claims.

 

[bhsmte]

Just your claims.

Join the club.

 

[Kylie]

AV, a question for you...

Keeping to your first point that nothing may contradict the KJV Bible, could you tell me what relation Abijam was to Asa? Was it father or brother?

 

[USincognito]

AV, a question for you...

Keeping to your first point that nothing may contradict the KJV Bible, could you tell me what relation Abijam was to Asa? Was it father or brother?

Why, after 5 months, did you bump this off topic thread to continue a theology/apologetics discussion that is off topic for this subforum?

 

[AV1611VET]

AV, a question for you...

Keeping to your first point that nothing may contradict the KJV Bible, could you tell me what relation Abijam was to Asa? Was it father or brother?

Both.

Abijam married Maachah, the queen mother; as did Asa.

Which testifies to the debauchery in operation at the time.

 

[Strathos]

Wouldn't that make them brothers-in-law?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why, after 5 months, did you bump this off topic thread to continue a theology/apologetics discussion that is off topic for this subforum?

FYI I QV'd this thread in another discussion.

Don't worry about it.

 

[lesliedellow]

Based on over seven and a half years here, I'm now condensing my apologetics down into two simple rules of thumb:

Rule One: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the literal translation of the King James Bible to be contradicted.

If necessary, use even the punctuation therein to defend your point; but never let a point contradict the Bible -- ever.

Rule Two: Seek a logical explanation first; and if that doesn't work, then go with a theological explanation.

Scripture first, followed by basic doctrine, followed by suppositions; but don't let the logical trump the theological.

It is no secret that the manuscript evidence available to the KJV translators was poor compared to what is available today. Personally, I like the KJV, but it certainly isn't the "most accurate" translation, as some people are heard to claim.

Even an arch conservative like James White will tell you that.