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Two arguments AGAINST intelligent design

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by tas8831, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    1. 2 million brain cells die every minute
    2. 14 billion synapses, the vital intersections between neurons Die every minute

    h/t rockytopva
     
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  2. Yennora

    Yennora Buy the truth and sell it not. Pro 23:23

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    I think @rockytopva's thread was emphasizing on the existence of intelligence in the core of the design.

    Here is an analogy. A super advanced electric racing car that is capable of driving itself but it keeps breaking down from time to time. The fact that the car can drive itself and the fact that it can hit high speeds efficiently is intelligent design. The fact that it breaks down a lot is corruption against that intelligent design.

    According to the Christian standpoint on the creation of God. Adam & Eve, and all creation were perfect. The corruption to the intelligent design started occurring after the fall. However, the intelligent core was and is still clearly visible despite the corruption. @rockytopva was pointing to that intelligent core.
     
  3. Speedwell

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    Which, summed up, is not ID but just ordinary creationism.
     
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  4. civilwarbuff

    civilwarbuff Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And your point is?......along with citations supporting your OP.
     
  5. eleos1954

    eleos1954 God is Love Supporter

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    The truth is (according to the Lords word) the earth has been breaking down since the fall and is still doing so .. and will continue to do so until the Lord comes back.

    Romans 8:22

    For we know that up to the present time all of creation groans with pain, like the pain of childbirth.

    As we know, a woman's labor pains increase and the pains' become closer together and more frequent.

    So, yeah corruption (fall of mankind) against Gods intelligent design is happening and will continue to happen until He returns.
     
  6. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    What is the intelligence behind designing something so poorly? I mean, yes, I get what he wanted his point to be, I just find pointing our a big flaw to have been pretty funny.
    Eh...
    I get that too, but it smacks of little more than a just-so story.
    This is what we see, let's cobble a tale to explain it, incorporating our deity.
    As I biologist, I see no intelligent core, and as discussion forum denizen, I know a poor analogy when I see one.
     
  7. tas8831

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    Got those from a creationist. His post had no citations - well unless you count the page he plagiarized from.


    My point? Creationists don't make very good arguments.
     
  8. tas8831

    tas8831 Well-Known Member

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    Cool just so story.

    There are very simple biological explanations for labor pains that do not require a deity's cruelty.
     
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